VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.2 Test] [Grym Gudinna Games]

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[COLOR=rgb(239, 239, 239)]Hi [/COLOR][B]TessSadist[/B] will you be doing monthly releases or when it's ready

 

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[TessSadist]

[COLOR=rgb(239, 239, 239)]Hi [/COLOR][B]TessSadist[/B] will you be doing monthly releases or when it's ready

Not that fast, I wish haha! I will update when I can.

 

[Deleted member 1906916]

Not that fast, I wish haha! I will update when I can.

Ok thanks for the reply

 

[assman1337]

can someone tell me whats sisap and sisdp ?

 

[gregers]

can someone tell me whats sisap and sisdp ?

The sister's relationship with other characters, marked by their initials. E.g. sisap, sister Alessandra points.

 

[Aseratrix]

Yes.



It is good advice.



I meant it as a SUB -- did you think I am not? Some people are even surprised and appalled at the fact that subs want any kind of "domination" performed on them at all -- why would you give up agency and want to be treated as less than what you are? -- and "just don't get it." It doesn't follow from that that being a sub isn't a lot of fun. It is; just ask any sub, "soft" or "harcore." What it means is the obvious tautology that those who don't get it, well, don't get it.

And don't be offended. If extreme violence is too hardcore for you, if guro/gore and death porn is just too much -- there is NOTHING wrong with that feeling. It's just when you implicitly assume that those who enjoy these things (and those who write fiction with these themes) are naturally "wrong" or "bad" that I feel like sighing and think "oh no, that again!..." 800 years won't change your taste, and I was already interested in this kind of thing ages ago, when I was 13, 14. I compare it to a taste simply because it doesn't need to have moral consequences. Believe it or not, it is NOT morally wrong to enjoy extremely, horribly, disgustingly violent porn that includes dismemberment, extreme pain, physical and psychological torture and utter destruction etc. -- even when you like to see yourself as the object of the violence, as a sub like me would. It is fascinating to think about WHY it is so ("where does evil really come from?" says a teacher I once had and admire to this day), but it is so. If you can't believe, and won't take my word, that people who enjoy these things are not necessarily going to be robotic serial killers... then there isn't much I can do, except tell you that you're wrong.

I don't want to die either. But I do like to imagine myself in situations in which an evil woman could trivially kill me just because she feels like it, and the more pain and brutality she employs in the process, the better. And yet I repeat: I don't really want to die. If you don't get it, then you don't get it -- I can try to explain it and make comparisons that might make sense to you if you're interested (DM me in this case -- this is not the right thread to discuss the psychology of BDSM), but if you ultimately don't get it, OK. Then you don't get this kind of female domination. You prefer other, softer kinds. That's fine! I like soft femdom too! Enjoy what you enjoy, but please... don't go around judging me because of what I enjoy. It's silly.

I don't mind your Engrish. Nobody "has" to speak a foreign language like a native -- I should know, I have studied a number of them, and making mistakes is just a part of the process. (My wife is Russian, so we have spoken mostly Russian at home for many years; yet I still make mistakes, often funny ones, much to her amusement.) You learn from them. It's not your mistakes, but your attitude, that makes me roll my eyes.

I am only sad for not being able to like your comment like a 1000x times!

 

[TessSadist]

The sister's relationship with other characters, marked by their initials. E.g. sisap, sister Alessandra points.

This is correct. Later, there will be another point metric that relates to characters based on their dom/sub levels. This is different than the like/dislike level of a character so you could have for example a protagonist that is submissive towards most characters but possibly more neutral or even dominant to one specific person, etc.

 

[asehpe]

This is correct. Later, there will be another point metric that relates to characters based on their dom/sub levels. This is different than the like/dislike level of a character so you could have for example a protagonist that is submissive towards most characters but possibly more neutral or even dominant to one specific person, etc.

So you can get people like Kitty who can be very dominant towards MC (in the sub route), but also very submissive to Elena. (So this is more of an interpersonal variable in KG then? You don't have two people who are switches, i.e. one could be either dom or sub towards the other depending on mood and other factors?)

 

[TessSadist]

So you can get people like Kitty who can be very dominant towards MC (in the sub route), but also very submissive to Elena. (So this is more of an interpersonal variable in KG then? You don't have two people who are switches, i.e. one could be either dom or sub towards the other depending on mood and other factors?)

Kind of both. The scale is definitely to allow players to not have to necessarily go all out 100% one way to everyone they meet if they want to just try and be a little different with a particular character without having to blow up your entire overall personality. Think of for example a dom player, and one female offers him the chance to enjoy something he really wants, but only if he can be a little obedient to her first to prove trust and loyalty. A dom player there might actually want to be a little submissive in that moment for the bigger picture of what he wants there without kind of turning into a submissive overall for the entire game. To me, it's more natural that a player might have to be a little dominant or submissive in a specific situation strategically, but not at the expense of their overall character arc, etc.

There are also currently two true switch (they like both dominating and being submissive) characters in the game as a default, although it definitely isn't obvious yet. Those two would enjoy a relationship with some element of both roles. Not everyone can be romanced either as some characters frankly don't want that at all. Not to give a lot away, but one thing I would say is that if you pursue and unlock a true romance path (keep in mind this usually closes off the others...) you can do many more things with say role switching without permanent impact because of the nature of the relationship.

I would add one last wrinkle too -- some of the characters are very set in their ways and are hard to for example romance or unlock in other ways if you are not exactly what they want, but other characters are more pliable and can be influenced to change from their initial default so to speak. The way I think of it in a very generic sense is that some characters are very "rubber bandy" meaning they have more potential outcomes/situations/scenes given player choices (so yeah, have to write a lot more content for these characters) while others are more of a unlock/lock route type of character meaning you have to fit their more set desires to really get all of their content, etc. So for example maybe Kitty can be either dom or sub with the male MC in terms of scenes generally, but maybe you can't actually unlock something else specific to her if you are not a specific type of person (say a submissive who generally acts charitable and good instead of evil) by the choices you made. You may also later have to choose alliances/who to help in certain ways, and this could also close off (and open) certain paths as well. This could apply to not just the women too. (for example friendships, family, etc)

You will at some point have to choose what kind of person you are, and what you really want. That kind of permanent "no going back" type of decision is not for a while though...

 

[Dexter.]

This game looks good!

 

[anne O'nymous]

3) I'll be pretty up front about this too: there are a few characters that are much more in line with softer femdom for sure that become more apparent if you go that direction, but the world itself is full of potential for great good and evil.

Which make me wonder, in a more or less related subject...
Since being sexually submissive don't necessarily mean being weak (well, it's more difficult with the setting you used but still), is it possible to follow MaleMC sub route without also ending in the slave route ? Personally I'm not at all interested by the slave route, but it can be interesting to also pursue a MaleMC sub route. So, if one imply the other, I'll save me time and just keep my main dom play
I care less for the sister, since even if she end being more a slave than anything else, she can still possibly end being her brother's one.

 

[asehpe]

Which make me wonder, in a more or less related subject...
Since being sexually submissive don't necessarily mean being weak (well, it's more difficult with the setting you used but still), is it possible to follow MaleMC sub route without also ending in the slave route ? Personally I'm not at all interested by the slave route, but it can be interesting to also pursue a MaleMC sub route. So, if one imply the other, I'll save me time and just keep my main dom play
I care less for the sister, since even if she end being more a slave than anything else, she can still possibly end being her brother's one.

I'm curious about this, too. It is part of the commentary in the game about subs/doms, good/evil, correlations with the story's world and how (not) to change it, and the actual complexity of real people.

 

[TessSadist]

Which make me wonder, in a more or less related subject...
Since being sexually submissive don't necessarily mean being weak (well, it's more difficult with the setting you used but still), is it possible to follow MaleMC sub route without also ending in the slave route ? Personally I'm not at all interested by the slave route, but it can be interesting to also pursue a MaleMC sub route. So, if one imply the other, I'll save me time and just keep my main dom play
I care less for the sister, since even if she end being more a slave than anything else, she can still possibly end being her brother's one.

Hi and first of all, always loved the great tech advice you have put on the site, you are so far beyond a level I will ever reach with coding!

It is from my experience with a few men that you can be very dominant, ambitious, successful, and quite aggressive in general with day to day life but also be very submissive with a female behind closed doors. So I don't think it is that strange at all that a man could be extremely dominant in one sense and not in another. Easiest answer to your direct question is it would depend on the character pursued. One female might want a very strong man to help her with her own goals and even team up with you to try and "win" the game in one sense so she actually would not want to ally - and take that risk - with a complete submissive/slave type. (but she still might want to be dominant in the bedroom but in a true relationship/partnership sense versus a pure slave sense as a major distinction.) Another might only want a true sub in all respects and so for her, this kind of situation might not be possible.

 

[anne O'nymous]

Hi and first of all, always loved the great tech advice you have put on the site, you are so far beyond a level I will ever reach with coding!

Well, know that you're part of the few for which I think exactly the same, just replace "tech advice" by "game writing". Your game is amazing and the character writing so good that, you achieve to express their personality even when it was in a totally indirect way like for the questions 58 and 59. Each one of the possible answer clearly match with each one of the four daughters, telling us a little more about them.
Obviously, we still only have superficial knowledge of their personality, there's clearly way more beyond than just, "Efficiency", "Humanism", "Shady" and "Sadism". But you achieved to make those words bright and highlight their personality, and this with just few scenes ; truly amazing. It clearly show that you master your characters, and that this game will be a really interesting experience.
In fact, it's the reason why I want to also pursue a sub, but none slave, route, because there's interesting things behind. Being a prey evolving in a world of predator, and staying none eaten... With the quality of your writing, it will surely be a great story to live.

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So I don't think it is that strange at all that a man could be extremely dominant in one sense and not in another. Easiest answer to your direct question is it would depend on the character pursued.

So, basically speaking : kneel confidently, and only when asked to undress or facing an undressed girl.
I'm sure that my MaleMC can do this

Another might only want a true sub in all respects and so for her, this kind of situation might not be possible.

I'm not totally sure yet for the three others, but I already had absolutely no intent to let Juliette be too close to my sub MaleMC


Thanks a lot for your answer... which prove once again that you really know how to write, even when it's just to give an answer.

 

[anne O'nymous]

See the walkthrough for further info on which choices have slave points attached to them.

No need for that, at least for me. I already had a good idea of the steps to make for this route, I just wanted to be sure that it wasn't a dead end ; and now I know.

But thanks for your answer. I'm sure that it will help many readers.

 

[Aseratrix]

Just a small question: if lets say I choose Juliette, will I be locked out to serve the other females simultaneously? I guess adherence to one character will influence how the others treat you as well. Are the dominant characters expect you to be only theirs? Right now I am playing the sister character as a dominant female and the male MC as a slave, how will they interact in this scenario? If revealing these would spoil the story, then of course I don't expect an answer.

 

[TessSadist]

Just a small question: if lets say I choose Juliette, will I be locked out to serve the other females simultaneously? I guess adherence to one character will influence how the others treat you as well. Are the dominant characters expect you to be only theirs? Right now I am playing the sister character as a dominant female and the male MC as a slave, how will they interact in this scenario? If revealing these would spoil the story, then of course I don't expect an answer.

Not spoiling anything, but this possible limitation might only apply to 1) wanting an actual romance path for one person and 2) assuming this person would also not want you playing with anyone else (a romantic interest might not mind for example and even want to play with you, while another might be a very traditional "you only stay with me" type, etc.). If you don't romance anyone (totally optional) you really don't have to worry otherwise. The amount of what I would call pure romantic characters is a fairly low amount given this type of world and the type of people you are dealing with, but it's possible. I would also add a pure romantic "can't turn back decision" isn't for a bit as it is...

 

[TessSadist]

will there be incest in future updates i have played the game upto the sister's encounter i stopped there because i want know weather there be incest or not to make decisions about her.

btw the game is made with love the story is perfectly written, every character is unique and seems like real ,models are beautiful , and the fact that it has so many choices makes it fun to play unlike other femdom games where one can enjoy femdom or just avoid it and have nothing. its truly perfect in everything. really enjoying the game thankyou dev for such a gem. looking forward for future updates.

Hi and thank you! The question you ask is actually impossible for me to answer completely without further context coming in a future update, but the general answer without more context is no (specifically to Kane and Olivia), meaning they will not engage in sexual relations as related brother and sister.

 

[TessSadist]

Well, know that you're part of the few for which I think exactly the same, just replace "tech advice" by "game writing". Your game is amazing and the character writing so good that, you achieve to express their personality even when it was in a totally indirect way like for the questions 58 and 59. Each one of the possible answer clearly match with each one of the four daughters, telling us a little more about them.
Obviously, we still only have superficial knowledge of their personality, there's clearly way more beyond than just, "Efficiency", "Humanism", "Shady" and "Sadism". But you achieved to make those words bright and highlight their personality, and this with just few scenes ; truly amazing. It clearly show that you master your characters, and that this game will be a really interesting experience.
In fact, it's the reason why I want to also pursue a sub, but none slave, route, because there's interesting things behind. Being a prey evolving in a world of predator, and staying none eaten... With the quality of your writing, it will surely be a great story to live.

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So, basically speaking : kneel confidently, and only when asked to undress or facing an undressed girl.
I'm sure that my MaleMC can do this




I'm not totally sure yet for the three others, but I already had absolutely no intent to let Juliette be too close to my sub MaleMC


Thanks a lot for your answer... which prove once again that you really know how to write, even when it's just to give an answer.

Question 60 is more important in terms of who wrote the question and the strategic reason why they would want to plant this idea in the main character's mind at that specific time. (we also don't know for sure if anyone else saw these same questions so it's possible some of his questions were tailored only to him, and certainly a hacker only contacted him directly as far as the player knows) The three flags I put there actually do not have relevance until many updates later, it's way before it matters. I'm so terrified of going backwards and adding new flags from old updates somehow screwing up something so I am thinking WAY ahead when I can and trying to make sure I never need to go backwards and change old content to fit so to speak.