VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.2 Test] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[MilesEdgeworth]

A few things:

1. Yikes! That is one impenetrable wall of text. My eyes hurt just from looking at it. Please, change the font size and/or add some paragraph breaks.

2. Karma isn't some cosmic retribution system. It doesn't overthrow tyrants. It doesn't punish, it instructs. It is about moral causality, yes, but it's supposed to work by transforming the agent. I don't claim to be an expert on karma (nor do I believe in it), but this is my understanding of it: If you do good acts, you become a good person and your ability to experience happiness increases (maybe people will appreciate you more because of your kindness, or maybe virtue is its own reward). If you do bad acts, you become a bad person and your ability to experience happiness decreases (this might manifest as guilt, shame, an inability to ever fill that black hole of desire in the pit of your stomach, or w/e).
And, of course, karma is also supposed to affect what you will be reborn as (and if you will be reborn at all).

3. Tess seems to be a fan of the Marquis de Sade (IIRC, Juliette Karlsson is named after the character Juliette from the books Justine and Juliette by de Sade), and that makes me think that there won't be any "karmic" comeuppance for the "rich and insane" in the end. If you haven't read Justine, it's basically all about the idea that the pursuit of virtue will only lead to pain and misfortune. Throughout the novel, all good acts are punished and all "evil" acts are rewarded.
While I don't think characters on the good/dom path will be punished just for being good (as long as they're smart about it), I also don't think there will be an ending where the downtrodden masses rise up and overthrow their oppressors once and for all. Or, at least I hope there won't be an ending like that.

Theres definitely a revolution about to happen so Id imagine that'll be one of the endings. Likely on the good kane path

 

[risky0]

I'm not leaving those four bitches to anyone. I'm waiting for the MC to kill them personally.
Killing the Veronica bitch is key to the revolution.
She's the most dangerous of all those bitches.

I will build my own empire in the shadow of the revolution.
A new world where masters are slaves and slaves are masters.

Even without such an ending, I will still be satisfied because everyone in the game can be killed except one person.
I'll kill everyone, even if it gets Mc killed.

 

[WastedTalent]

I'm not leaving those four bitches to anyone. I'm waiting for the MC to kill them personally.
Killing the Veronica bitch is key to the revolution.
She's the most dangerous of all those bitches.

I will build my own empire in the shadow of the revolution.
A new world where masters are slaves and slaves are masters.

Even without such an ending, I will still be satisfied because everyone in the game can be killed except one person.
I'll kill everyone, even if it gets Mc killed.

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Not sure that will be an option but I like your thinking...

 

[agelastos]

Theres definitely a revolution about to happen so Id imagine that'll be one of the endings. Likely on the good kane path

In that case, I hope that it's stamped out. Or has the same effect as most of the "successful" revolutions in real life: the oppressed become the oppressors and nothing really changes (except that the State becomes even more powerful). No unicorns and rainbows, please!

 

[dal7moc]

In that case, I hope that it's stamped out. Or has the same effect as most of the "successful" revolutions in real life: the oppressed become the oppressors and nothing really changes (except that the State becomes even more powerful). No unicorns and rainbows, please!

The writing up to this point suggests that Tess isn't that simple - fortunately. And to add to this. While I think some turmoil will ensue I doubt it's a revolution. This is a struggle between two houses - and at least one has a master plan installed (the gambit). But it won't be to get equality of the genders imho.

 

[Don Sucio]

Theres definitely a revolution about to happen so Id imagine that'll be one of the endings. Likely on the good kane path

I don´t know if "revolution" is the correct word, we know there was a revolution but it was sofocated and we know the responsibles are dead or in prision again (Kawane if i remember good his name). We know could be more revolutions in the future so i assume they have a plan and their security has improve, and some of the sisters aren´t very diplomatic, like Juliette or Dominique and i very sure they prefer die before surrender or run away

The sisters have the guards, the weapons and of course the brain of Veronica and her experiments... so i don´t think a revolution could win, unless our Mc works for the revolution triumph in the shadows when he obatins power...

Anyway i would accept one of the finals could be the revolution winning but i prefer choose other where i´m in the charge of everything with the sisters near to me.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

The writing up to this point suggests that Tess isn't that simple - fortunately. And to add to this. While I think some turmoil will ensue I doubt it's a revolution. This is a struggle between two houses - and at least one has a master plan installed (the gambit). But it won't be to get equality of the genders imho.

Not gender, class. We've seen several characters hinting at one up to this point.

I don´t know if "revolution" is the correct word, we know there was a revolution but it was sofocated and we know the responsibles are dead or in prision again (Kawane if i remember good his name). We know could be more revolutions in the future so i assume they have a plan and their security has improve, and some of the sisters aren´t very diplomatic, like Juliette or Dominique and i very sure they prefer die before surrender or run away

The sisters have the guards, the weapons and of course the brain of Veronica and her experiments... so i don´t think a revolution could win, unless our Mc works for the revolution triumph in the shadows when he obatins power...

Anyway i would accept one of the finals could be the revolution winning but i prefer choose other where i´m in the charge of everything with the sisters near to me.

There are people from both sides working together on something big. Otherwise that meeting between junko otto and kane was a waste of time. The opportunity to build a relationship with kwame would also fell small. While we likely wont see the revolution on most branches, I do think that on the good path a revolution ending is possible, might be possible on a bad dominique path too but that wont be good for Kane.

 

[Remo007]

when will drop next update....

 

[Allen0206]

A few things:

1. Yikes! That is one impenetrable wall of text. My eyes hurt just from looking at it. Please, change the font size and/or add some paragraph breaks.

2. Karma isn't some cosmic retribution system. It doesn't overthrow tyrants. It doesn't punish, it instructs. It is about moral causality, yes, but it's supposed to work by transforming the agent. I don't claim to be an expert on karma (nor do I believe in it), but this is my understanding of it: If you do good acts, you become a good person and your ability to experience happiness increases (maybe people will appreciate you more because of your kindness, or maybe virtue is its own reward). If you do bad acts, you become a bad person and your ability to experience happiness decreases (this might manifest as guilt, shame, an inability to ever fill that black hole of desire in the pit of your stomach, or w/e).
And, of course, karma is also supposed to affect what you will be reborn as (and if you will be reborn at all).

3. Tess seems to be a fan of the Marquis de Sade (IIRC, Juliette Karlsson is named after the character Juliette from the books Justine and Juliette by de Sade), and that makes me think that there won't be any "karmic" comeuppance for the "rich and insane" in the end. If you haven't read Justine, it's basically all about the idea that the pursuit of virtue will only lead to pain and misfortune. Throughout the novel, all good acts are punished and all "evil" acts are rewarded.
While I don't think characters on the good/dom path will be punished just for being good (as long as they're smart about it), I also don't think there will be an ending where the downtrodden masses rise up and overthrow their oppressors once and for all. Or, at least I hope there won't be an ending like that.

I made it about halfway through that book and some of the "evil" people do get their comeuppance, but it is only by the hand of a more evil person, so there is that.

 

[agelastos]

I made it about halfway through that book and some of the "evil" people do get their comeuppance, but it is only by the hand of a more evil person, so there is that.

Haha! I don't remember that. Maybe you read a different version than I did. There are a few, and they differ quite a bit. Hell, the original version didn't even have any proper porn scenes.

 

[Stan5851]

when will drop next update....

https://f95zone.to/threads/karlssons-gambit-v0-7b-final-grym-gudinna-games.50840/post-11644205

 

[Deleted member 3727657]

https://f95zone.to/threads/karlssons-gambit-v0-7b-final-grym-gudinna-games.50840/post-11644205

hi mate
What percentage of the gameplay of this game belongs to the female protagonist?
Will it focus on the female protagonist in the future?

 

[Stan5851]

hi mate
What percentage of the gameplay of this game belongs to the female protagonist?
Will it focus on the female protagonist in the future?

In the vast majority of cases, you will be controlling a male МС. This is true for the Dom routes (Good or Evil). I haven't gone through the Sub routes, so I don't know exactly how things work there. Based on what players have written here, there are more scenes with Olivia (the second MC) on the sub track, but I don't know who the player will control in those moments - Kane or Olivia directly.

In any case, it's Kane who is at the center of the game's narrative, so more often than not, he's the one you'll be controlling, not Olivia and certainly not Seth (the third MC). And no, I don't think the focus will shift in favor of playing as the female protagonist in the later chapters of the game. Kane will still be in charge (regardless of whether he dominates others or submits to women).

 

[Deleted member 3727657]

In the vast majority of cases, you will be controlling a male МС. This is true for the Dom routes (Good or Evil). I haven't gone through the Sub routes, so I don't know exactly how things work there. Based on what players have written here, there are more scenes with Olivia (the second MC) on the sub track, but I don't know who the player will control in those moments - Kane or Olivia directly.

In any case, it's Kane who is at the center of the game's narrative, so more often than not, he's the one you'll be controlling, not Olivia and certainly not Seth (the third MC). And no, I don't think the focus will shift in favor of playing as the female protagonist in the later chapters of the game. Kane will still be in charge (regardless of whether he dominates others or submits to women).

When we are the female protagonist, can we fuck other men other than MC?
Of course, it doesn't have the cheating and ntr tags, but when the MC changes, maybe they won't put these tags (I'm not sure).

 

[gregers]

When we are the female protagonist, can we fuck other men other than MC?

The female player character (Olivia) can have sexually charged BDSM scenes with other men but to the best of my recollection no outright penetrative sex scenes with any men so far.

As Stan says, on the dom paths the male player character (Kane) takes up most of the screen time but you still have some scenes with/as Olivia, making choices on her behalf. On the sub paths she is more to the fore, and sometimes she is the one deciding what happens to Kane.

The game will presumably continue to focus on both Olivia and Kane for a while still, with occasional excursions to the third character (Seth).

Of course, it doesn't have the cheating and ntr tags, but when the MC changes, maybe they won't put these tags (I'm not sure).

None of the player characters are in a relationship (well, not that kind of relationship) that we know of, so those tags don't apply.

 

[DoverDad]

Guys poll up for 2 weeks. https://f95zone.to/threads/karlsson...t-post-the-final-verson-when-released.173918/
I am just a little hung over with a small headache

 

[Z - Reborn]

Guys poll up for 2 weeks. https://f95zone.to/threads/karlsson...t-post-the-final-verson-when-released.173918/
I am just a little hung over with a small headache

Aren't we a good half a year away from this being relevant anyway? Or is the next update coming quicker than usual?

 

[DoverDad]

Aren't we a good half a year away from this being relevant anyway? Or is the next update coming quicker than usual?

The next update for ep8

 

[Z - Reborn]

The next update for ep8

Yeah, my question still stands though.

 

[DoverDad]

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