VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.2 Test] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[MilesEdgeworth]

About Veronica is true many people love her but i don´t see anything special in her , besides her intelligence and power of course.

I imagine it's cuz she has that too-cool-for-school attitude, and she's also the only girl who doesn't get off on torture.

Olivia is the hottest for sure, but since she is a somewhat unreliable narrator (compared to Kane) I can't fully commit to her. I would never be able to shake off the sense of mistrust with her. All the other sisters are known quantities, you can read them fairly well at this point: Juliette is demoness from hell (that's what makes her alluring), Dominique is conflicted (or not, depending on how you play her), Veronica is knowledgeable and reserved, and Alessandra is clever and scheming. I know what to expect from those 4, but not from Olivia.
Personally I would go for Alessandra on my pure Dom playthrough, but I think I read here that she's unavailiable as a romance option. That's a shame. My 2nd choice would be Juliette, then Dominique, and last - Veronica.

I think that Olivia is a combination of the other 4 sisters. She has Juliette's ruthlessness, Dominique's moral flexibility, Alessandra's cunning and Veronica's curiosity

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Why do I get the feeling that these idiots are going to harrass Tess until she gets to a point where she quits the game? Im tired of these impatient fuckers always whining about hurry up..... hurry up.... are we there yet? Just stfu and be patient

 

[Don Sucio]

Please tell me there is at least one lady/mistress with pubic hair in the whole game, I think I'm finishing chapter 5 and I haven't found one yet. Yes, a hairy pussy is one of my big fetishes .

Good point, i like some stylish hairy pussies, like forming a heart or things like that with a little hair. It could be nice.But i don´t remember any hairy pussy.

Maybe the reason is the sisters and others girls find hairy pussies like something dirty, they are the elite and they are always clean (at least this is my view about them), or simply Tess hasn´t added that becouse she doesn´t like it, i don´t know.

 

[Maviarab]

Hmmm....I can understand the being more professional aspect...but giving timelines is never good, the very same fuckwad idiots will then just whine if you miss a timeline...regardless of the reason.

I'd personally prefer she kept things as they are...if she wants another scene in and it takes another week then so be it....but Tess has to do whats right by her at the end of the day.

 

[Stan5851]

Tess has published a few posts, I've combined them into one to make it easier to read. Anyway guys, there's a lot to think about and discuss here.

Mistress Tess
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Today at 12:25 PM
I will have when I can a very focused and specific update on romance paths for all characters around the time the next release is out. I am not sure there is much merit in trying to surprise certain things as much now, and allowing people to plan ahead might have some merit. But I need to re outline all the paths I wanted to get them pared down to the best ones. Err release meaning after main Final is out, not Test as I have no doubt I will be scrambling still at that point.

I will update this and edit over time: But some general tweaks in my outline, I may be forgetting things as I do this so don't take this as a final thing but rather what I am thinking of at the time I write it.
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Tier 1 Romances (Dom Path): (Tier 1 means to me deepest)
Dominique, World State A only
Olivia, World State A, B, or C
Junko, World State B or C
Veronica, World State B only
Juliette, World State A only

Tier 2:
Kiyomi, World State B only
Delilah, World State A or C
Angelica, World State A only

Dom (other):
Alessandra and Celeste, World State A only
Olivia and Katsumi, World State A only
Delilah and Juliette, World State A only

No romances: World State D

Secret Sub:
Tier 1:
Alessandra, World State A only

Tier 2:
Elena, World State B or C
Dr. Chastain, World State A or B (forgot B!)

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There is a likelihood some things will tweaked/be pared down but this is a hope right now.

Sub ROMANCE (which is different than slavery or something else):

Veronica, World State B only
Olivia, World State B only
Junko, World State B only
Claudia, World State B only

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I don't want to be super specific, but World State A has to do with a specific resolution of The Karlsson Group, what happens to it with a few variations but essentially the same result. World State C is an alternative result of World State A.

World State B is a separate thing that may or may not happen regardless of A or C. (it can happen with both results)

World State D is different than A or C, B can still happen with this too.

Err, logically no romances with World State D might imply something with Kane.

 

[kinkyshin]

Almost no love for the secret sub I knew it

 

[Stan5851]

Almost no love for the secret sub I knew it

My KaneDom is not having an affair with Alessandra (we're just a fuck buddies), but what is written here seems logical enough. Tier1 means the deepest romances and that means your Kane "secret sub" gets just such a "full-blown" romance with Alessa. Obviously, she's in charge of this relationship and this romance can't be on the terms of a secret sub who willingly submits to her in the bedroom. Oh, and multiple romances with various characters at once is hardly possible with this particular arrangement (Alessa is unlikely to approve it).

 

[kinkyshin]

My KaneDom is not having an affair with Alessandra (we're just a fuck buddies), but what is written here seems logical enough. Tier1 means the deepest romances and that means your Kane "secret sub" gets just such a "full-blown" romance with Alessa. Obviously, she's in charge of this relationship and this romance can't be on the terms of a secret sub who willingly submits to her in the bedroom. Oh, and multiple romances with various characters at once is hardly possible with this particular arrangement (Alessa is unlikely to approve it).

I don't think you need to be in that arrangement with Alessandra to be secret sub though. I think simply getting placed in K4, and then quickly climbing up the ranks is considered secret sub as well. (Or does that put you on the Dom route? Idk)

Regardless, it would be nice if there was another major option, especially because it's my favorite route and I don't particularly like Alessandra lol.

 

[Silver_Crow117]

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Almost no love for the secret sub I knew it

I mean… you get Alessandra with the deepest possible romance in the secret sub path and Now revealed Elena and Dr Chastain are revealed to have a secret sub route, it’s just that they have little romance but probably more sub based…

 

[Silver_Crow117]

Tbh (FOR THE SUB PLAYAS HAHA) we still don’t know what the slave routes are or servant type routes but at least for rn we know that, Veronica Romance (Confirmed already), Olivia (Obvious) Junko (Obvious)…. But the surprise to me is….

Claudia?? Having a Sub Romance? That’s surprising but awesome to hear!! Tho she might take up some tips from her mother (Phoebe)… either way that was a nice surprise to me!

 

[depeche mode]

sub kane being a boy toy for elena would be top class

 

[f96zonetrooper]

Good point, i like some stylish hairy pussies, like forming a heart or things like that with a little hair. It could be nice.But i don´t remember any hairy pussy.

Maybe the reason is the sisters and others girls find hairy pussies like something dirty, they are the elite and they are always clean (at least this is my view about them), or simply Tess hasn´t added that becouse she doesn´t like it, i don´t know.

The ladies in KG like to get oral service ... and having too much hair down there would spoil the experience, both on the giving and receiving side.
So no hair seems consistent and fine.

 

[Stan5851]

I don't think you need to be in that arrangement with Alessandra to be secret sub though. I think simply getting placed in K4, and then quickly climbing up the ranks is considered secret sub as well. (Or does that put you on the Dom route? Idk)

Regardless, it would be nice if there was another major option, especially because it's my favorite route and I don't particularly like Alessandra lol.

I don't play sub routes, so it's hard for me to answer anything specific about this. The most interesting thing (imo) is exactly what states of the world (and Karlsson's group) Tess means by A, B, C and D. We can make some general assumptions, but we have no idea what exactly those might be. I'll try to speculate.

For example, knowing that the romance with Juliette is only possible for world state "A", like "Alessandra and Celeste, only world state A", and knowing the characters of these Alessa and Jul, I'll hazard a guess that "A" is a fundamental state in which no paradigm shift in the development of the world has occurred. That is, Karlsson Group remains the same perverted and vicious company, and it will not be possible to change this world, making it a little more fair.

That said, "B" is an extremely mysterious variable that can exist in either the main world state "A" or the alternate world state "C".

Perhaps I'm wrong and world state "A" is something else, but something tells me that a romance with two of the most evil and conniving sisters (Juliette and Alessandra) in the same world state implies that this WS is quite satisfactory to these sisters. And we know what they want (in general terms)... At least, neither Alessa nor Jul are involved in Veronica and Dominique's overall efforts to restore plant life on the mainland. So it's unlikely that "A" is anything conventionally "good" (again, I could be wrong).

Junko, World State B or C
Delilah, World State A or C.

It's interesting here...but you can fantasise. My guess is that "C" is the state of the world in which the very revolution the miners are planning, with the likely support of the DeKock family, has occurred. More locally, it could be a state where the Karlsson Group has lost its main leaders and now only our KaneDom and some of his family (on his father's side), i.e. the DeKock, are in charge.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Knowing what we know world state a is evil dom
Just a guess, but world state b is probably the revolution
not sure what world state c is yet

 

[BurgRoyce]

It seems WS A is more or less the current status quo. Evil, oppresive Karlsson Group. (But then, if you push Dominique to the "good side", you'd expect her to be on another WS, right?)
WS B and C are too mysterious right now.

 

[Maviarab]

Knowing what we know world state a is evil dom
Just a guess, but world state b is probably the revolution
not sure what world state c is yet

I think you're probably on the money there, which makes it interesting if romancing a 'good' Dominique...which world state would that fit into then?

 

[Sharpshooter890]

I would assume that WS A is a consolidation of Karlsson Group and perhaps De Kock Syndicate under MC and his LI, but no meaningful change in policy. WS C is a full disintegration of the companies, with few execs surviving and grabbing what power/property they can. WS B would probably be the healing of the world scenario, and WS D - full blown slave revolt with the Great Terror ala the French/Russian revolutions, where the ruling class gets exterminated and then the world probably ends since no more scientists/equipment.

I just hope on my experimental "K1 Kane, evil Olivia" save he gets a chance to kill her before the end. After that - let the world burn.

 

[Stan5851]

Knowing what we know world state a is evil dom
Just a guess, but world state b is probably the revolution
not sure what world state c is yet

I assume that the revolution is exactly C. (wrote about it above). It's enough just to look at the "beneficiaries".

Junko - she is one of the participants in the future revolution (along with Otto and hence the DeKocks). Delilah DeKock is a likely relative of Kane and a direct stakeholder in this revolution that will sweep away the current owners of the Karlsson Group.

Yes, some may say that since Kiyomi welcomes the state of the B world, it means revolution, but who ever said that Kiyomi is willing to betray the interests of the company? Veronica is also "B" - does that mean that our brilliant scientist, head of R&D, Intelligence and Vipers will be happy for the unwashed miners (along with the DeKocks) to sweep her and her sisters out of power and bury her research? Plus, Veronica has a vested interest in making sure Gambit's conditions are met, and a revolution is something out of the ordinary that automatically breaks all plans.

Of course, I could be wrong, but that's how I see it.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

I think you're probably on the money there, which makes it interesting if romancing a 'good' Dominique...which world state would that fit into then?

Id guess c but since its not listed, it has to be A which means A has to mean something other than evil dom.

Perhaps it goes something like this
a- Karlsson in charge/ status quo
b- revolution
c- decocks take over?
I imagine d is something very bad for kane like death or something similar

 

[Maviarab]

Id guess c but since its not listed, it has to be A which means A has to mean something other than evil dom.

Perhaps it goes something like this
a- Karlsson in charge/ status quo
b- revolution
c- decocks take over?
I imagine d is something very bad for kane like death or something similar

Exactly my thinking...WS: A cannot be the status quo (Evil corp) as otherwise, why would their be a 'deep romance' for evil Dominique but not for the good Dominique? I mean I guess Tess could differentiate the two but given how she operates with trying to make routes even...I would be surprised if that was the case.

It's funny in a way but (unless that was Tess' intention), it just throws us more questions rather than answering anything hahaha. Still, if nothing else, it gives us something more to discuss and try and figure out for the next month, though I think I agree with Stan5851 that the Junko world state has to be the revolution/slave uprising end.