VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.2 Test] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[indio68]

UHM pretty boring update and quite short considering how much time it taken....

 

[Maviarab]

Not that, I meant the actual execution of gambit itself, the trigger of bringing Kane into the facility.
Even if he was ill or was on bed rest, he could still have started the whole plan an year back and he would still have had an hand on the direction of program. As we have seen till now, from the time we saw the meeting with Elena, its still has been less than a few months and, assuming linear progression of game and the time that passes inside the game, more than half of gambit has passed.

The Gambit has evolved from creating a male heir, to creating a male heir through Kane and his daughters. The other part of the Gambit is for that individual to run the company. It has been 3 months exactly (give or take a few days) from Alexander dying to GD01. So in reality, none of the sisters can take over the company, only their child can. It's a two part issue. Again, we (I..whatever) assume that Kane going through the tribulations of rising up against authorative women (as Alexander did himself under different circumstances) is also part of the Gambit. We can also assume this was part (at some point) of Alexander not killing Kane, Olivia and Callista.

Important to also keep in mind, Kane was 'arrested' immediately after Alexander died...I suppose some people will blame Callista for that too lol, (why wasn't she there to stop him assaulting Rod).....everything, was planned. Unfortunately, again, like Seth for example, we are still way too in the dark with many things to understand more.

The Karlsson Group board members are all seemingly content working in the part of the corporate structure that best suit their personality and capabilities

Quite naturally.

The only person at the KG that seems capable of forcing the gambit to happen is Veronica (same threat as she issued Alexander), but she's largely indifferent towards all of it.

Consider the Gambit (in it's current evolved iteration) as Alexander's will. She is just the executor of said will and is largely indifferent as she does not want to run the company. That's why she knows the most and is doing things according to said will.

Which is why I assume that she's ????? at the boat meeting with the Gambit Queen

Correct.

People seem to assume that the Gambit has to happen, when it would be infinitely more convenient to just ignore that specific request from their dead father.

You're forgetting like many others that the board just votes on decisions. Alexander owned the company. Someone needs to own and be in overall charge of the company. As part of the Gambit (again, read above), consider it also a last will and testement. If we for the moment, forget that it might all be pointless anyway (if the world is utterly doomed), then how is that going to happen? Are we going have all out Wrestlemania between the sisters for Kanes baby batter? No KaneDaughter child....no ownership of the company, no company, shit falls apart for all the Karlsson's. Back to the first thing of your post I quoted above

Also do not forget, the world itself is not unliveable. Plenty of people live around, we are only told the 'largest population centers' are in South Africa. Not the entire population. Obviously, if the weather in the Mid/North Atlantic is anything to go by, temperate, weather and other conditions are all perfectly just A-Ok (forget where Cole is, irelevent and not indicitive of the rest of the planet). What is the issue is the economy has completely crashed and now food is scarce for various reasons etc. The company needs an owner (remember, it was reported in the news...where is this news I wonder), it's still a legal scenario in this dystopian world.

There is also the distinct possiblity (remember what we are told about Alexander and what he became), that he has also put clauses into the Gambit/his will that we are not aweare of, and neither are most other people to ensure it goes as he intends. I personally would be more surprised if he hadn't done something like that. Recall the beginning conversation with DeathbedDaughter....

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Now, whether Cole knew all this or not is another qestion...or maybe the 'Olivia deal' came after the pier scene we see...who knows. There's unfortunately a hell of a lot missing that we are completely unaware of and that Callista has still not told anyone (that we've been allowed to see). Also remember, Alexander has been keeping tabs on them, they have video and phot's of them growing up. So Kane is educated to the best of Callista's ability but unfortunately for Kane, he is not a Karlsson and Olivia is, and Callista knew (she even says it people) that they 'will be coming for you soon'. Olivia had to be trained more to deal and take her sisters on. Kane did not need this, as he is the Neo and saviour. So you really think Alexander would not have not have noticed if Callista was breaking some terms of the deal and giving Kane combat and weapons training and whatever knows else?

As far as Cole knew they were safe I assume in exchange for Cole agreeing to go to his prison thing and continue working for Alexander

Lol, what's Callista's fault? It's not her fault that certain players decided to turn unruly Kane into a pathetic whore and a lowly worm who worships sadistic bitches, right? So look for the problem in those who control Kane in this manner. Personally, to me, Callista in the Dom route looks like what a mother should be, who managed to raise her son properly, who even when put in an extreme situation did not let her down and justified the effort invested in him. Which, by the way, Elena happily reported. So look for the problem in yourself, not Callista.
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This woman did the best she could under the circumstances Alexander put her in (and is still fighting for her son to succeed and win the Gambit)..

Yea but Callista in the sub route looks like a piss poor mother who set her son up for extreme failure. Dont even get me started on the faking her death and refusing to tell Kane about his father thing.

 

[Maviarab]

As far as Cole knew they were safe I assume in exchange for Cole agreeing to go to his prison thing and continue working for Alexander

Certainly a very valid possibility.

 

[PickerLewd]

Dark Quean Olivia please...





There is still time to return to the path of light!
You have been corrupted by the poisonous harpies of the Karlssons, but your origins are not so.
Please come to your senses, come back to be a herald of hope and light, an angel of light, be "Radiant Queen Olivia".

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P.S: Remember, Evil NEVER triumphs, and your brothers don't want you to end up getting swallowed up by the sarlacc.

 

[Dark Quean Olivia]

And get your arse ready, @Dark Quean Olivia is already wearing a thick strap-on and is coming for you.

Dark Quean Olivia please...


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There is still time to return to the path of light!
You have been corrupted by the poisonous harpies of the Karlssons, but your origins are not so.
Please come to your senses, come back to be a herald of hope and light, an angel of light, be "Radiant Queen Olivia".

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P.S: Remember, Evil NEVER triumphs, and your brothers don't want you to end up getting swallowed up by the sarlacc.

Ohhhh you guys

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

I get most of their experiments cuz greater good, sadism etc. But what possible good can come from making someone old and fat. If anything they're wasting good specimen

 

[Maviarab]

I get most of their experiments cuz greater good, sadism etc. But what possible good can come from making someone old and fat. If anything they're wasting good specimen

I think that's just pure sadistic torture...make someone old, full of ailments, crippled and a very, slow, agonising...death...

But hey...if gonna go out...what better way than with thses two huh?

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[Dreadlord Sinister]

what possible good can come from making someone old and fat. If anything they're wasting good specimen

Evil crazy ass bitches man evil bitches

 

[Stan5851]

Yea but Callista in the sub route looks like a piss poor mother who set her son up for extreme failure. Dont even get me started on the faking her death and refusing to tell Kane about his father thing.

Well, that's sad. And I shudder to think how ashamed any mother would be of such a son, willing to grovel before a handful of rich sadistic bitches...

As I've written many times before, Tess's message running through the entire game tells us one thing - don't be weak, achieve your goals, show character... The same thing literally every woman in JF says to our Kane.. But if someone doesn't want to hear what the dev is trying to convey between the lines and prefers to hide their head in the sand, refusing to take responsibility for their actions and refusing to show character, then who am I to stop those people from upsetting their virtuous in-game mother?

 

[Dark Quean Olivia]

Evil crazy ass bitches man evil bitches

No need to be jealous dear, green eyes is not a good look on you. You'll get yours later, there's only so many hours in a day and I am a busy lady after all.

 

[Dreadlord Sinister]

No need to be jealous dear, green eyes is not a good look on you. You'll get yours later, there's only so many hours in a day and I am a busy lady after all.

I meant it with the greatest of respect my Queen

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

I think that's just pure sadistic torture...make someone old, full of ailments, crippled and a very, slow, agonising...death...

But hey...if gonna go out...what better way than with thses two huh?

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Considering that having a hard-on hurts the person, having those two there makes it worst. Have mercy on the poor fella and put veronica there. At least he'll keep his hard on at bay.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Well, that's sad. And I shudder to think how ashamed any mother would be of such a son, willing to grovel before a handful of rich sadistic bitches...

As I've written many times before, Tess's message running through the entire game tells us one thing - don't be weak, achieve your goals, show character... The same thing literally every woman in JF says to our Kane.. But if someone doesn't want to hear what the dev is trying to convey between the lines and prefers to hide their head in the sand, refusing to take responsibility for their actions and refusing to show character, then who am I to stop those people from upsetting their virtuous in-game mother?

You mean like how Kane had no choice in participating in the gambit cuz the smartest woman in the world set him up for failure knowing the type of person he is? A person can't change who they are and if the person they trust most in the world fucks them over in such a way, we're getting into Alexander levels of assholery.

 

[Maviarab]

You mean like how Kane had no choice in participating in the gambit cuz the smartest woman in the world set him up for failure knowing the type of person he is? A person can't change who they are and if the person they trust most in the world fucks them over in such a way, we're getting into Alexander levels of assholery.

Maybe in some future flashback we'll find out that he never really escaped his past and that Callista is a secret Dom and that's why he was so utterly obsessed with her???

As you mentioned some time days ago, the eagerly awaited (and anticipated) reuniting of mother and son is sure going to be interesting. I just hope at that point, Kane is finally told 'everything'...and I do mean everything. Because once the game show is over, we (players at least) know that time is running out for kane to make his stand, seize power and put the sisters in their place. In order for that to happen, we really need to fully clued in to what the hell is going on.

 

[Dreadlord Sinister]

the eagerly awaited (and anticipated) reuniting of mother and son is sure going to be interesting.

It sure will be and it could hopefully go a number of ways

 

[Maviarab]

It sure will be and it could hopefully go a number of ways

For sure. Given how complicated this already is with its branching paths, I'm confident Tess will allow this to go in various ways. I can imagine it will truly be hilarious on the SubPath lol.

 

[Dreadlord Sinister]

For sure. Given how complicated this already is with its branching paths, I'm confident Tess will allow this to go in various ways. I can imagine it will truly be hilarious on the SubPath lol.

Didn't Tess say it's all gonna merge into one path at some point of was I wrong?

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Maybe in some future flashback we'll find out that he never really escaped his past and that Callista is a secret Dom and that's why he was so utterly obsessed with her???

As you mentioned some time days ago, the eagerly awaited (and anticipated) reuniting of mother and son is sure going to be interesting. I just hope at that point, Kane is finally told 'everything'...and I do mean everything. Because once the game show is over, we (players at least) know that time is running out for kane to make his stand, seize power and put the sisters in their place. In order for that to happen, we really need to fully clued in to what the hell is going on.

There is a part of me that's hoping that either Elena tells Olivia too much or the Decocks somehow manage to get Kane alone and spill everything cuz that's likely the only way that Kane is going to get the unfiltered truth.

 

[Maviarab]

Didn't Tess say it's all gonna merge into one path at some point of was I wrong?

Well at some point, like an Vn or even game, it has to direct you to a certain end point of the already written story. So somewhat that will end true yes, especially on the Dom path as even if Kane doesn't make the Z ranks, he still in a pretty cushy place when you think about it.

However, SubPaths, will have a perma death scenario, a slave path and a servant path. Tie all this into four confirmed World State endings that will all have variations in terms of who's in charge, takes control, which love interest etc etc...there will be differences, it's actually impossible at this point to merge everything into a single path now.