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L7Bear

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Mr. Chatty Just a few of my thoughts on your two recent posts.
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Just my opinion. YMMV.

I sincerely hope you are enjoying this game at least as much as I am, and looking forward to more of Misstress's vision being revealed to us.
 

L7Bear

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Thanks for tagging me. I'm no longer that active here. Been really busy. I will get the Gambit Queen thing fixed. If there are any other changes that I missed but are explicitly stated in-game, let me know. Either here or in DMs.
There was quite a bit of discussion (because I mistakenly thought Ninja 1 "white tips" & Ninja 2 "red tips" were the same person), but I'm pretty certain that "Ninja 2" ("red tips") was implicitly identified as Veronica during Ep. 8.

Might be useful to include photos/pics for the unidentified characters. For example, I believe "Grym Gudinna" and "Ninja 1" refer to the same person/picture/character/etc. Although I don't (currently) have anything other than guesses who might be under their mask/masks.

Similarly, I have no idea what character "Masked Guy 2" refers to, but (depending on who that might be), that character may have been implicitly &/or explicitly identified as Cole DeKock during Ep. 8 (or even earlier?)

Thank you for the wonderful Relationship Chart.
It is exceptionally useful (especially with face shots) for those of us trying to sort out who is who in this increasingly complex &/or complicated game.


Oh, and I'm still trying to piece this all together in my head, but you might want to split Charlotte Marbot & company off a new section for the "New Paris" VIPs like Mistress Tess... or add Mistress Tess to the VIPs... or something. I'm still not completely sure personally.
 

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Thanks for tagging me. I'm no longer that active here. Been really busy. I will get the Gambit Queen thing fixed. If there are any other changes that I missed but are explicitly stated in-game, let me know. Either here or in DMs.
Feel free to make use of my own relationship excel sheet which has every character in the game listed if it help you any mate. Any questions grab me on disco (you know me there also).
 

Stan5851

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No way could long haired Kane be a submissive.
Exactly. And we're back to the potentially dangerous (in terms of the healthy and polite side of the discussion) topic of fanservice and the fact that there's no way Kane could be submissive in nature. And it's not just the hair, it's his entire past, which never once hinted at submissive tendencies in his behavior (because he didn't have any)..

Tess, being the smart woman she is, has of course tried to eliminate the conflict of opinion, recently stating that there will be personalized canon endings for both paths, Dom and Sub. And that seems to be it, the conflict is resolved but it's resolved in the future, and if you look at the past where it all started, the conflict still remains...

The transformation of an "ordinary" guy, confident in himself and his powers, into a submissive weakling (at the will of the player) still looks rather artificial...And it is explained, perhaps, only by the fact that this is a femdom-oriented game, and Tess did not explain to a conditional new player, why a couple-three points of "slave" mistakenly received by him at the beginning of the game may well throw such a player to the sub route, although he may not have intended to go there at all...
 
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Yeah, the canon path is a dom Kane and i think a Dom Olivia too, but of course if someone want to play like a submissive guy there is the option. As always the more options possibles the better
Depending on how I play I like to think (Even though Miss Olivia told me not to) that something happened to Kane out of game that we don't know about (we know how sadistic Sam and Patricia are) That something happened to him that was so bad it either woke something up in him and he wants the power to or he just accepts it

Prison can either harden you or you accept it as your new life
 

Stan5851

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Mr. Chatty Just a few of my thoughts on your two recent posts.

You don't need to fill up the entire screen with images from discord chats. You can put thumbnails (which we can click on to see full size) or put it behind a spoiler tag, etc.
This is a local troll, and he visits this thread not for normal discussions, but to breed toxic and negative posts. Many of the regulars blacklisted him long ago.
 

MagicMan753

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Yeah, the canon path is a dom Kane and i think a Dom Olivia too, but of course if someone want to play like a submissive guy there is the option. As always the more options possibles the better
That is just factually not true, tess has canon paths for both sides, so both sub and dom are canon, and if you want to make a case for only one path is canon, it would be the submissive side because the game started out as a femdom game, and she added a dom side because a femdom only game would not make as much money. But to say that only the dom side is the canon is just wrong and ignorant.
 
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Until the game is completed and tess makes another game, technically there is no canon path, so arguing over it is futile and a waste of time.
For once I agree with Mr Ace attorney here lol even though he put me on trial once for what I'm not entirely sure but Chewbacca proved me innocent nonetheless
 
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Stan5851

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That is just factually not true, tess has canon paths for both sides, so both sub and dom are canon, and if you want to make a case for only one path is canon, it would be the submissive side because the game started out as a femdom game, and she added a dom side because a femdom only game would not make as much money. But to say that only the dom side is the canon is just wrong and ignorant.
First off, Tess has never said (not in this thread, Discord, or anywhere else) that she makes her game for money. On the contrary, as you probably know, her game is first and foremost a hobby and a favorite brainchild that is not her livelihood, as is the case with many other AVN indie devs.

As for "adding the Dom route(s)", it originally existed in the KG, so from the beginning we had 2 main paths (Dom&Sub) in the game with with many additional paths/branches. As for "why a femdom-oriented game has dom content at all", according to Tess, she's convinced that a really good femdom game can't consist of only femdom (AFAIR, Tess says this in the intro to the game).

So the point was not about money (Tess has said many times that femdom games are a specific genre that doesn't bring the developer much money), but to make the game as very interesting and not one-sided as possible.

As for the canonical ending for both paths (dom and sub), this was said to Tess at the end of March,
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and I, as well as some players from the regulars in our thread, participated in that conversation with Tess. And unless I missed something in our thread posts, no player mentioned it after that discord conversation. And the first mention of this decision by Tess was only made today, in my post above... Thus, you can't accuse Don Sucio of possibly not knowing about it. Many KG players don't log into Discord at all, and that's no reason to poke their nose in the fact that they may have missed some of Tess' posts.

However, we can always talk about Kane's past, because without the past there is no future.. And so far, there's no hint in his past that Kane was inclined to be submissive.That behavioral response has to have some sort of background from childhood, but it just doesn't exist..

If it suddenly turns out that the extremely virtuous Callista was stepping on Kane's head every day and making him kiss her heels after he did all her homework, then I could see where this was coming from, lol... :KEK: But there was nothing like that, he really loves his mother who put a lot of effort into him, his "sister" Olivia...he's genuinely ready to protect both of them, he's ready to stand up for his disabled brother and go to jail, but so far I haven't seen anything that would make Kane a Zach-like personality...No, Kane was never like that and that's why his transformation into a sub (at the player's will) looks too artificial to me.
 
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Stan5851

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Until the game is completed and tess makes another game, technically there is no canon path, so arguing over it is futile and a waste of time.
As for the next Tess game, she already wrote that there at the start the player will be asked to choose from several final states (+ sub or dom component(?), I assume) of the KG world, so I think this is another smart decision to not create a potential conflict between dom and sub players. Everyone will just pick the canon they feel closer to.
 
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You don't need to fill up the entire screen with images from discord chats. You can put thumbnails (which we can click on to see full size) or put it behind a spoiler tag, etc.
My bad, I know how to do "mentioned" things but I didn't do so because I didn't think the images would cover so much space.

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Stan5851

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IMHO: All possible endings should be treated as canon.
Yes, even THAT one...
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If there will be about 15 planned endings in KG, it seems to me that it will be impossible to take them all into account in the next game as some kind of starting position. If I remember correctly, Tess even wrote something about it..So even the fact that it will be possible to choose, roughly speaking, from 4 final states of the KG world, it's already good (imo), coz usually devs don't make such gifts to players, preferring in their new games, which are conditional sequels, to just impose the only canon they consider necessary..
 
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That is just factually not true, tess has canon paths for both sides, so both sub and dom are canon, and if you want to make a case for only one path is canon, it would be the submissive side because the game started out as a femdom game, and she added a dom side because a femdom only game would not make as much money. But to say that only the dom side is the canon is just wrong and ignorant.
Stan has already said everything i was going to say and more so :LOL: . Anyway everyone can think whatever they want about what is the canon path, for me the best guide is knowing about Kane´s past, which says a lot about his behaviour and how isn´t probably that he would surrender himself to the sisters. But as i like to think, the canon path is the path you play,even if the dev says otherwise :LOL:.

and I, as well as some players from the regulars in our thread, participated in that conversation with Tess. And unless I missed something in our thread posts, no player mentioned it after that discord conversation. And the first mention of this decision by Tess was only made today, in my post above... Thus, you can't accuse Don Sucio of possibly not knowing about it. Many KG players don't log into Discord at all, and that's no reason to poke their nose in the fact that they may have missed some of Tess' posts.
Yeah, i have Discord but i don´t use it at all, i think i´m in some Game of Thrones channels yet :unsure:, and one time i entered in KG Discord but like i said,i don´t use it :)
 
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L7Bear

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If there will be about 15 planned endings in KG, it seems to me that it will be impossible to take them all into account in the next game as some kind of starting position. If I remember correctly, Tess even wrote something about it..So even the fact that it will be possible to choose, roughly speaking, from 4 final states of the KG world, it's already good (imo), coz usually devs don't make such gifts to players, preferring in their new games, which are conditional sequels, to just impose the only canon they consider necessary..
GTK.
F95 was having some weirdness with GIFs, but I think I fixed the punchline to my joke above.
 
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