VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.2B Final] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[DoverDad]

Im betting that Star will be a new character in her newest game.

So silver how does the talk on the bridge go between Callista and Elena if Kane is k4 or below? I don't imagine it as positive of a talk

I like to know that as well don't want to do another sub run I'm only gone from k4-k5 in one run never again more power to u if you go that route or below.

 

[jadepaladin]

I like to know that as well don't want to do another sub run I'm only gone from k4-k5 in one run never again more power to u if you go that route or below.

Sub runs slowly sap something in me. I can pretty much autopilot through a dom route, but having to do a sub run requires me to focus and intentionally make mistakes while looking for plot items that would be different or unseen on a dom route.

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[Rufio]

Oh, and what exactly would an 'academic dictionary' look like?

Even in the 'Oxford' learners dictionary (which is used academically as a source of English), I think you will find my definition is the same. Unless you are now going to try and tell us that the most informative and concise dictionary in the world,

Is wrong?

This oxford dictionary?

 

[Rufio]

Maybe you should read this:




For the rest of the recent conversation, of course Tess is going to market her VN a certain way. She is incredibly intelligent, she knows her business marketing incredibly well, knows her demographic and knows a rather large amount of them are very easily parted with their money. If you'd seen some of the utterly pathetic displays I have in her Discord server, you'd understand, it's just business 101.

None of that changes what is though and what the term femdom means. Sticking your nose into a thread you haven't ever contributed to before and going on about rape and shit with your 3 prior posts...gtfo...

Big oof, are you suggesting Tess who is very smart and knows the definition of Femdom is lying to the fans by marketing the game as something it's not?

 

[Maviarab]

Alright, but who in the blue hell was this?

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Time traveller...all inside her head (she falls asleep right before she appears)...make up your own mind...none of us know.

Any idea when the two(dom and sec-sub) remaining scenes may be finished?

Tess usually pretty efficient, Final usually comes within 2 or 3 weeks of Test. It is the holidays though and she not done much since Test naturally. I'd say mid Jan if I had to guess.

I remember Elena saying Kane isn't blazing up the ranks and Callista agrees. I think Callista's line about Olivia changes depending on if she's good or evil too. If she's evil, Callista says something about not being naïve to her character and how she has too much of her father in her. Past that, most of the talk is the same, I believe.[/SPOILER]

Correct JP.

 

[Dark Quean Olivia]

For the idiots:

Unfortunately most online dictionary sources (the good ones, including the OED, Theosaurus.com, Merrium-Webster are paywalled and require membership. Or you could, you know, just pick up a damn dictionary.

Oxford Leaner's Dictionary (if using their online search) only lists Dominatrix which, I'll explain, as you won't know this either, is from the Latin word dominator, which is the feminine form of the word dominat-, meaning "ruled". Dominat- comes from the verb dominari,

And guess what...femdom is derived from the forms Dom and female Who'd of thought huh...and is used in sexual activity. But hey, it's not like I'm actually educated on this subject (or English as a subject itself for that matter), so:

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Like seriously, how many examples do you actually need? See the common theme? Sexual practices/activities? Cambridge, Oxford, Collins yeah, they all don't have a clue and are all wrong. Maybe in your fit trying to be right, you should perhaps write to all these organisations and tell them how they are wrong, So please feel free to continue arguing and swinging your dicks around amongst yourselves in a vain attempt to try and one-up me, but I won't be seeing anymore of your nonsense either way.

 

[Popata20]

For the idiots:

Unfortunately most online dictionary sources (the good ones, including the OED, Theosaurus.com, Merrium-Webster are paywalled and require membership. Or you could, you know, just pick up a damn dictionary.

Oxford Leaner's Dictionary (if using their online search) only lists Dominatrix which, I'll explain, as you won't know this either, is from the Latin word dominator, which is the feminine form of the word dominat-, meaning "ruled". Dominat- comes from the verb dominari,

And guess what...femdom is derived from the forms Dom and female Who'd of thought huh...and is used in sexual activity. But hey, it's not like I'm actually educated on this subject (or English as a subject itself for that matter), so:

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Like seriously, how many examples do you actually need? See the common theme? Sexual practices/activities? Cambridge, Oxford, Collins yeah, they all don't have a clue and are all wrong. Maybe in your fit trying to be right, you should perhaps write to all these organisations and tell them how they are wrong, So please feel free to continue arguing and swinging your dicks around amongst yourselves in a vain attempt to try and one-up me, but I won't be seeing anymore of your nonsense either way.

People go to the forums because it's boring to only mumble your theories. You will find gems like this. Definitely one of the most exciting "subthread". (otherwise, it is undoubtedly good to learn new things and interpretations)

 

[Hantol]

People go to the forums because it's boring to only mumble your theories. You will find gems like this. Definitely one of the most exciting "subthread". (otherwise, it is undoubtedly good to learn new things and interpretations)

I would add that as a non-native English speaker, it is even more exciting to read and try to understand. If such exciting topics had arisen at that time, language learning would have been much, much more interesting. (and obviously the virtue of the visual novel is that it raises such topics, which lead far away from it)

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

To people arguing over femdom:

Sub runs slowly sap something in me. I can pretty much autopilot through a dom route, but having to do a sub run requires me to focus and intentionally make mistakes while looking for plot items that would be different or unseen on a dom route.

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Thanks for that.
I also just learned to see how particular scenes change. You don't need to change your playstyle if you have the URM; you change the flag when directed, and voila.

 

[Maviarab]

I also just learned to see how particular scenes change. You don't need to change your playstyle if you have the URM; you change the flag when directed, and voila.

Beauty of that also is that it shows it as a replay so doesn't change or interfere with your current run.

 

[Silver_Crow117]

I also just learned to see how particular scenes change. You don't need to change your playstyle if you have the URM; you change the flag when directed, and voila.

Yeah but sometimes, you don’t really focus on the events happening, your just rushing through everything with out taking into consideration of what’s involved/the context… I.e. character development, relationships, ect. but hey, Dom players don’t like to go in depth into things on the sub side and the vice versa with Sub players trying to play dom routes… me personally, I play everything authentically but I don’t really have that motivation/concentration when I play the dom side as I play the sub side! That’s why we have users like Stan the Man and Mav

 

[Maviarab]

Yeah but sometimes, you don’t really focus on the events happening, your just rushing through everything with out taking into consideration of what’s involved/the context… I.e. character development, relationships, ect. but hey, Dom players don’t like to go in depth into things on the sub side and the vice versa with Sub players trying to play dom routes… me personally, I play everything authentically but I don’t really have that motivation/concentration when I play the dom side as I play the sub side! That’s why we have users like Stan the Man and Mav

Very good point indeed Silver.

I use it a lot for timeline stuff, seeing exactly when a scene switches and to what, as not all the SubPaths are the same (or dom paths if not at K9) so I find it a useful tool (the pick a diff choice/replay function) purely for that alone. As you say though, with no real context of the prior scene on the diff path, you're not really getting the full picture.

 

[Stan5851]

There will be an auction route in the very far future if you don’t pick a main mistress to serve, Juliette, Dominique, Delilah, Chastain, etc. but Yes, Kane can be ranked S+ tier (Possibly)… me and Tess even joked of Zach and Kane having a Buy one get one Free sale LMAOO

I was already imagining this dialog between Cole and Kane in the very end of the game..

Cole: Well, hello, son! I can finally give you a hug!

*The hug scene*

Cole: Your mom told me that you were interested in science and grew up to be a capable and confident boy. But I want you to tell me yourself, son, what you've accomplished while I was away.

KaneSub: Dad, I've turned into a slave with calluses on my knees, an enlarged anus and a surgically altered tongue, and tomorrow I'll be auctioned off for rich Mistresses to buy me for their perverted entertainment.

Cole:.......*he sounds of a heart attack*

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[SlowGoesSlow]

I was already imagining this dialog between Cole and Kane in the very end of the game..

Cole: Well, hello, son! I can finally give you a hug!

*The hug scene*

Cole: Your mom told me that you were interested in science and grew up to be a capable and confident boy. But I want you to tell me yourself, son, what you've accomplished while I was away.

KaneSub: Dad, I've turned into a slave with calluses on my knees, an enlarged anus and a surgically altered tongue, and tomorrow I'll be auctioned off for rich Mistresses to buy me for their perverted entertainment.

Cole:.......*he sounds of a heart attack*

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All part of Galaxy Brain Callista's plan.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Yeah but sometimes, you don’t really focus on the events happening, your just rushing through everything with out taking into consideration of what’s involved/the context… I.e. character development, relationships, ect. but hey, Dom players don’t like to go in depth into things on the sub side and the vice versa with Sub players trying to play dom routes… me personally, I play everything authentically but I don’t really have that motivation/concentration when I play the dom side as I play the sub side! That’s why we have users like Stan the Man and Mav

Very good point indeed Silver.

I use it a lot for timeline stuff, seeing exactly when a scene switches and to what, as not all the SubPaths are the same (or dom paths if not at K9) so I find it a useful tool (the pick a diff choice/replay function) purely for that alone. As you say though, with no real context of the prior scene on the diff path, you're not really getting the full picture.

True, you can't do it for all scenes, but certain scenes work great with it, such as the bridge scene and Olivia with the slave.

 

[jadepaladin]

How much does Elena change when she is evil versus when she is good? I know about the various flags, like her opinion of Kane as a worthy partner for Olivia and how their moralities have to match, but we set Elena's alignment at the end of episode 4 and the only thing I can think of off the top of my head where she is rather sadistic is that new scene in ep 8 pt 2 where Kane is a sub and rejects the Olivia/Elena sponsorship and I don't know if that's more of Olivia being evil with Elena following suit, or Elena being evil.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

How much does Elena change when she is evil versus when she is good? I know about the various flags, like her opinion of Kane as a worthy partner for Olivia and how their moralities have to match, but we set Elena's alignment at the end of episode 4 and the only thing I can think of off the top of my head where she is rather sadistic is that new scene in ep 8 pt 2 where Kane is a sub and rejects the Olivia/Elena sponsorship and I don't know if that's more of Olivia being evil with Elena following suit, or Elena being evil.

This sounds like a question for stan the man. He's probably the good alignment expert here

 

[uwu0uwu]

Good dom route question...

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[Bloker997]

Good dom route question...

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isnt there the same amount of scenes with her, no matter if she is evil or not?

 

[jadepaladin]

Good dom route question...

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I think Dominique has the same amount of scenes for now but I'd have to check. Pretty sure whenever you're gonna get a Dominique scene after you've "set her flag" there are two variants. The only exception is a good Kane meeting Dominique initially in ep 3 or 4 but that's not sexual, and it's before her "good/evil flag."

I think Kane losing the demon flag changed the story for Dominique and Juliette but I don't know to what extent. I want to say it opened a door for a possible harem...but I'm not 100% sure on that. I did notice there's way less D vs J and more J vs V.