VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.2B Final] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[Sancho1969]

As I'm getting closer to having SanchoMod updated, I can't help but feel the dialogue via Olivia to "Kane" comes across odd on the Dom side pathing. When they and Taylor are going over things before the Pod inspection... Olivia is giving advice to "Kane" as if she's some type of know-it-all, when she hardly knows shit about not only the facility but how to manage "inmates". It's as if in the blink of an eye she's become Warden Supreme.

Just my take... which means Jack shit at the end of the day. Anyway, I'm back to it. I hope to have the mod update finished today sometime. It's been one helluva lot of work tbh. Progress update posts and other shenanigans are in the mod's thread if interested. Regards.

Too many stats and you don't want some shown but want others?

Well, I'm making changes to the MiniStat. See example in post here if that's your thing. With so much going on I'm forced to allow the Player to customize the stat screen to minimize congestion and be easier on the eyes aesthetically. The point of SanchoMod has always been to enhance the product, as if it's supposed to be there... not impose itself or be in the way. Now I'm giving you even more choice of how the UI is presented... because that's true freedom... choice. Regards.

 

[whizwart]

Yeah, the characterization of Olivia has seemed pretty inconsistent throughout. But we also know from v. 0.6 that she's had some advance knowledge and training that Kane doesn't (and that he doesn't know she has), the precise nature of which is still unclear.

Its also conceviable she's been getting a bunch of training on thw island we aren't seeing. It may also be a writing thing, where the author has to make Dom and Sub different enough to make the flavor stick.

 

[Sancho1969]

Its also conceviable she's been getting a bunch of training on thw island we aren't seeing. It may also be a writing thing, where the author has to make Dom and Sub different enough to make the flavor stick.

My two pesos: If that's the only two options (and it's certainly not) then I'd go with the latter... since no one goes from a barista to rocket scientist in a few days... not even Elon.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

As I'm getting closer to having SanchoMod updated, I can't help but feel the dialogue via Olivia to "Kane" comes across odd on the Dom side pathing. When they and Taylor are going over things before the Pod inspection... Olivia is giving advice to "Kane" as if she's some type of know-it-all, when she hardly knows shit about not only the facility but how to manage "inmates". It's as if in the blink of an eye she's become Warden Supreme.

Just my take... which means Jack shit at the end of the day. Anyway, I'm back to it. I hope to have the mod update finished today sometime. It's been one helluva lot of work tbh. Progress update posts and other shenanigans are in the mod's thread if interested. Regards.

Too many stats and you don't want some shown but want others?

Well, I'm making changes to the MiniStat. See example in post here if that's your thing. With so much going on I'm forced to allow the Player to customize the stat screen to minimize congestion and be easier on the eyes aesthetically. The point of SanchoMod has always been to enhance the product, as if it's supposed to be there... not impose itself or be in the way. Now I'm giving you even more choice of how the UI is presented... because that's true freedom... choice. Regards.

You are way too good to us. Thanks for all the hard work

 

[Canto Forte]

Fake it till you make it ... Super fly for a Konvict guy - Angel singer song writer
(unless lady gaga wrote it in her being a studio employee early years) akon did pretty good,
singer, songwriter, producer, studio owner, even diamond mine owner,
talk about inspirations for this game corpo many avenues for proffit and world domineering,
all of which with no previous experience: pretty good, so here we are ...

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Mod oN!

 

[Sancho1969]

You are way too good to us. Thanks for all the hard work

Me being honest, y'all know I write these mods for my personal use... so it's all for selfish reasons. I'm just sharing a few of my toys for karma. So, I'm really just being good to me... that's the honesty of it at the end of the day. I wouldn't lie to or deceive you into thinking otherwise. Regards bud.

 

[Sennistrasz]

Its also conceviable she's been getting a bunch of training on thw island we aren't seeing. It may also be a writing thing, where the author has to make Dom and Sub different enough to make the flavor stick.

Kane similarly got a crash course in the same week, it's always quite surprising that an entire episode is about 1-2 days. Also, she might just be putting together everything Callista taught her into context, because both Olivia and Kane had years of weird secret training from young, so they should know some things even if they didn't yet know how to use those information.

 

[DoverDad]

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I missed doing a more traditional update on Sunday due to the release, so here are some things on my plate this week as I recover from a Final 0.7! I'm enjoying a day outside and hanging out with loved ones, etc.
There will be a few things I am trying to package this week with the help of some great people too as I try and not get into Episode 8 yet!
1) A relationship chart that is updated with new characters for the game (warning, this document will have spoilers -- possibly even from save paths you might have missed, so be aware of that if you read it)
2) Putting together a compressed version (About 3 GB instead of 13) and Android version of the 0.7 to help out those audiences.
3) Exploring the tech side of creating Episode 8 in a new way with transferring some things over from 1-7, but also creating a new introduction and possibly some UI tweaks.
4) A 0.7 walkthrough - this is always tricky for me to write because I know so much more than what is revealed in 0.7, so I will likely have a few people help on it after I draft something (to make sure I am not spoiling Episode 8 by accident)
5) I will post a monthly poll later this week for our first new image set as I'd like to work on something outside the game again! Now we have so many characters now that I can't even fit them all in one poll (I think there is a 25 person limit) so any suggestions who to include on the first poll (or how to group them) would be appreciated
More later, I am enjoying a brief respite from everything! I worked really hard and tried my best to let everyone have fun, so I hope you all are having a great week too! More soon!

 

[TotoJackson]

Not sure if someone added it (didn't bother to check previous messages), but render #s for the update are:

- 16,500 lines of code and 4,100 renders.

Putting this here if anyone wanted an idea of it, or to add to changelog if needed.

 

[Don Sucio]

Kane similarly got a crash course in the same week, it's always quite surprising that an entire episode is about 1-2 days. Also, she might just be putting together everything Callista taught her into context, because both Olivia and Kane had years of weird secret training from young, so they should know some things even if they didn't yet know how to use those information.

I think is just a writting thing, at least in sub route, Olivia has to appear smarter and more powerful than Kane, for the simple benefit of the story. Anyway i keep thinking Olivia don´t appear so smart, there are many secenes where Olivia is constantly asking to the other characters how to do something or what´s the meaning or other thing.

 

[Sancho1969]

I think is just a writting thing, at least in sub route, Olivia has to appear smarter and more powerful than Kane, for the simple benefit of the story. Anyway i keep thinking Olivia don´t appear so smart, there are many secenes where Olivia is constantly asking to the other characters how to do something or what´s the meaning or other thing.

Basically my thoughts I made here. She acts like a know-it-all with "Kane", giving him "advice" on the Pod W2 review but doesn't know much of Jack shit yet.

 

[gregers]

Basically my thoughts I made here. She acts like a know-it-all with "Kane", giving him "advice" on the Pod W2 review but doesn't know much of Jack shit yet.

Trying to make sense of Olivia's character is increasingly a mug's game, I find. In some scenes you can guide her to be moral and even somewhat submissive if that's your thing, in others she'll automatically show herself as an evil sadist no matter your choices. In the early game she'll be in awe at everything that's happening to her:

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But then later we learn that she's secretly been prepped and trained specifically for the Karlssons making contact, so apparently she was lying even to herself earlier, as well as to her brothers.

This becomes a bit of an issue when we're being asked to make decisions for Olivia as players, when we never know what her motivation will turn out to be by the next scene or the next update.

There's a lot to like about this game, but character consistency is not one of its main strengths.

 

[Sancho1969]

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There's a lot to like about this game, but character consistency is not one of its main strengths.

I work hard on the mod to support Tess's project, so I won't bad mouth her in any way... but that particular criticism is fair and just, so I don't see saying it as being harsh or punking. Regardless, I've gotta get back to it... folks are waiting for me to finish the mod... and a proper guide. I've a few new features that will certainly elevate the quality of life imho.

 

[Sancho1969]

This is rather consistent though


( j/k )

 

[gregers]

I work hard on the mod to support Tess's project, so I won't bad mouth her in any way... but that particular criticism is fair and just, so I don't see saying it as being harsh or punking. Regardless, I've gotta get back to it... folks are waiting for me to finish the mod... and a proper guide. I've a few new features that will certainly elevate the quality of life imho.

Right, and arguably part of the inconsistency is due to the huge amount of variations and freedom allowed to the player to steer the characters this way or that, which is incidentally also part of what makes your modding work so much fun. So it all works out.

 

[ddaisy]

Not that I dislike Olivia's content but in the future I would like to have an option to play blindly with only Kane's perspective. Being kept in the darkness and not knowing whether Olivia's is my ally or not would be exciting, at least on the sub path where her support can mean a lot.

 

[DIRTY FILTHY Animal]

Wanted to make a gif of this great game but can’t find the images, only the 2 second animation clips, anyone know where they are hiding?

 

[tobiume08]

I think the de Kock syndicate is pretty interesting. Trying to understand their goals and plans for Kane is one of the best storylines going on atm imo.

 

[dolfe67]

Trying to make sense of Olivia's character is increasingly a mug's game, I find. In some scenes you can guide her to be moral and even somewhat submissive if that's your thing, in others she'll automatically show herself as an evil sadist no matter your choices. In the early game she'll be in awe at everything that's happening to her:

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But then later we learn that she's secretly been prepped and trained specifically for the Karlssons making contact, so apparently she was lying even to herself earlier, as well as to her brothers.

This becomes a bit of an issue when we're being asked to make decisions for Olivia as players, when we never know what her motivation will turn out to be by the next scene or the next update.

There's a lot to like about this game, but character consistency is not one of its main strengths.

That might be a coding issue with branching paths, there is so much variation. My Olivia appears evil too sometimes but I play her as neutral.

Also she's supposed to be quite the genius, but nothing really shows that. That's the problem when you write smart characters...

 

[Sancho1969]

SanchoNote #69

You folks running unmodded:

When you get to this scene in Ep7 you're possibly going to miss something... and I highly doubt it was in the written walkthrough (I never read them):


What happens afterwards is the one chance to be awarded (DominiqueRomOpen)... and it all depends on a choice you made in Ep5, and if you didn't select that correct choice you had a chance in Ep6. Here's the choices (ChoiceGuide revised for Ep7):

Ep5:


or Ep6:


I'll sort it in the mod with a "CriticalPath" screen, but you folks who play unmodded just know that, unless Tess changes something in the future, there's no way for you to obtain Dominque's Rom path if you didn't make the proper choices as noted above.

As a bonus there's a lewd scene in Ep7 if you do this... but if you are RomOpen with Junko then you also get flagged for (JunkoCheat), so know that is a thing too. There's currently no known consequence for JunkoCheat... to be continued.

Now, if you want Dominique Evil then don't go Dominique RomOpen... choose one or the other from what I can analyze to date. Lewds will be different, some you can't obtain as they are specific to that pathing fork for her, etc.

I thought you should know... as a public service announcement. There's more hidden gems but I don't write the written walkthrough... I'm just a crappy modder. Regards.