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Maybe it's a red herring because it would be "too" obvious, but I have always believed Veronica could be Kane's biological sister, way before Episode 7. I could see Alexander Karlsson obsessed with the idea of having a son, and cheating on Callista (pregnant with Veronica) with Elena. And then Yvette would have assumed the role of the mother for Veronica.
Veronica can't be Kane's sister. This game will never have incest and Veronica is a Main LI for Kane. Tess was pretty clear multiple times that the game doesn't have and will not have incest.
 

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Hi everyone!
I think I have finally closed the book on Episode 7, and this week I built out the basic shell (both tech and also some basic structure of how to split up Episode 8) and also completed a new introduction for the game. I also tested the Episode 7 saves pretty extensively, so I think things are looking good.
Episode 8 will have similar menus but likely some new images at the main menu, and some tweaks to the music perhaps...I also spent some time researching Steam a little, but I will do that when free time permits from normal metrics/goals for Episode 8. I am getting some help on this I think anyway...
I also realized that just my music files are like 2GB so I might try and shrink the size down a bit without sacrificing quality. (I know basically NOTHING about this but luckily my biggest slave's life work is music so might be ok here)
I will post this week polls for ideas for the monthly stuff. I think it's Veronica/Dominique as dommes, and then the other one is Kane/Doc/Raven with Mia/Nurse Reyes under them. I am looking forward to doing these a...LOT because I have missed them cranking out 7.
Also, I am attaching a walkthrough for Episode 7 here. It's a version 1, so I won't quite pin it yet pending a few changes. But once I feel ok with it, I will pin it with the other downloads in the pinned post. I am terrible at this kind of writing, but I hope it's helpful!
I am planning to formally start writing this week! I have outlined a basic overall structure, and having a nice short break has really helped recharge me!
I will try and post some official Episode 8 teaser renders with the next weekly update but also focus on the poll ideas very soon! I really hope everyone has or is enjoying Episode 7, and please have a great week all!
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Veronica can't be Kane's sister. This game will never have incest and Veronica is a Main LI for Kane. Tess was pretty clear multiple times that the game doesn't have and will not have incest.
Are we sure Veronica will be a LI for Kane at the end of the game? She's not a "normal" contestant in the Gambit too (that would make even more sense if she shares the same mother with Kane). When I look at Olivia and Delilah, I'm also not sure Tess is using an extensive definition of incest either. But Maybe we should ask her what is her definition of incest, it would help in order to guess who the sister is haha.

Many people argued that nothing could happen between Kane and Olivia and here we are. If the reason is that they aren't blood-related, Veronica would "just" be a half-sister (and there are countless stories of people falling for a half-sibling they didn't grow up with. It's actually more "realistic" than with someone they grew up with, because of the Westermarck effect).
 
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Are we sure Veronica will be a LI for Kane at the end of the game? She's not a "normal" contestant in the Gambit too (that would make even more sense if she shares the same mother with Kane). When I look at Olivia and Delilah, I'm also not sure Tess is using an extensive definition of incest either. But Maybe we should ask her what is her definition of incest, it would help in order to guess who the sister is haha.

Many people argued that nothing could happen between Kane and Olivia and here we are. If the reason is that they aren't blood-related, Veronica would "just" be a half-sister (and there are countless stories of people falling for a half-sibling they didn't grow up with. It's actually more "realistic" than with someone they grew up with, because of the Westermarck effect).
There will be some pissed fans if Veronica isnt a LI for Kane at the end of the game, including me.
 

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Are we sure Veronica will be a LI for Kane at the end of the game? She's not a "normal" contestant in the Gambit too (that would make even more sense if she shares the same mother with Kane). When I look at Olivia and Delilah, I'm also not sure Tess is using an extensive definition of incest either. But Maybe we should ask her what is her definition of incest, it would help in order to guess who the sister is haha.

Many people argued that nothing could happen between Kane and Olivia and here we are. If the reason is that they aren't blood-related, Veronica would "just" be a half-sister (and there are countless stories of people falling for a half-sibling they didn't grow up with. It's actually more "realistic" than with someone they grew up with, because of the Westermarck effect).
They were naked and made out on the good veronica path. Veronicas definitely a love interest
 
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Many people argued that nothing could happen between Kane and Olivia and here we are. If the reason is that they aren't blood-related, Veronica would "just" be a half-sister (and there are countless stories of people falling for a half-sibling they didn't grow up with. It's actually more "realistic" than with someone they grew up with, because of the Westermarck effect).
The dev has been very specific. No blood-related sibling incest. Veronica's scenes with Kane definitely rules her out.
 
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There will be some pissed fans if Veronica isnt a LI for Kane at the end of the game, including me.
I'd say it would be an army of angry fans. Veronica is our everything. And if Tess also gives us a chance to have a full-blown romance with Olivia, I'll be doubly happy (I'm sure I'm not the only one).
 
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There will be some pissed fans if Veronica isnt a LI for Kane at the end of the game, including me.
I'd say it would be an army of angry fans. Veronica is our everything. And if Tess also gives us a chance to have a full-blown romance with Olivia, I'll be doubly happy (I'm sure I'm not the only one).
Oh I would be pissed too if I can't end up with Veronica in one of the endings, believe me!

The dev has been very specific. No blood-related sibling incest. Veronica's scenes with Kane definitely rules her out.
Ok, so it would rule out a lot of characters. Maybe we can already find who the sister is based on that statement (if it's a noticeable female character who already made an appearance, and can't have a sexual interaction with Kane).
 

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I share the same thoughts, and in that case it has to be Nadia. It can't be Astrid anymore if she's also Veronica's sister, as that would mean Kane would share at least a parent with Veronica, leading to incest. Nadia on the other hand also seemed very protective of Kane, and could have helped him since the beginning as the hacker.
 

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in a scene in which depending on the routes it takes place a little differently. in which olivia is looking from above in which she decides whether to tell him that he is not her brother, kiyomi offers him a favorable treatment you can accept or treat him like everyone else, choosing this second variable jumps.
i undesrtand your point but let's say that by doing the second option we show him as a little stronger mentally
Sorry, but I can't agree with that. He is absolutely weak and characterless if he allows himself to be treated that way. (Yes, I play the Dom track only, but that "soft femdom scene" available for the Dom route (with the option to view or skip) I find pretty nasty. And, by the way, thanks for reminding me of that. I reread some of the dialogue again, and now my Kane (Dom) has a lot of questions for my "good" Olivia with 12 points of Good and with Evil=0 , who treated Seth well in a past key choice. I'd love to hear Olivia's excuses as to why she let a sick man sleep all night in a cold steel cage.
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Oh, and there are questions for Kiyomi, too. Although she referred to Olivia's orders about Seth's "sleeping place", no one forced her to do what she did next. I don't believe her room is being watched, which means it was her personal decision.
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Kiyomi is for all three (Kane, Olivia and Seth) a "Romance" option, which is pretty rare.
As far as I know, only Seth can have an "romance" with Kiyomi. Where do Kane and Olivia come into this equation?
 
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Sorry, but I can't agree with that. He is absolutely weak and characterless if he allows himself to be treated that way.
I agree with your other points about Kiyomi's and especially Olivia's behaviour, but IIRC Seth's reasoning for refusing Kiyomi's initial offer is that he needs to toughen up to survive. So it is at least presented as a strong character moment, although of course you're free to read it differently.

But yeah, it still ends up with him in a cage on (apparently) Olivia's explicit orders and Kiyomi's facesitting and forced body worship scene.


As far as I know, only Seth can have an "romance" with Kiyomi. Where do Kane and Olivia come into this equation?
I don't play the sub path, but AFAIK there are some sub scenes with Kane and the vipers. Not quite romance perhaps, but still sexual options.
 

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Sorry, but I can't agree with that. He is absolutely weak and characterless if he allows himself to be treated that way. (Yes, I play the Dom track only, but that "soft femdom scene" available for the Dom route (with the option to view or skip) I find pretty nasty. And, by the way, thanks for reminding me of that. I reread some of the dialogue again, and now my Kane (Dom) has a lot of questions for my "good" Olivia with 12 points of Good and with Evil=0 , who treated Seth well in a past key choice. I'd love to hear Olivia's excuses as to why she let a sick man sleep all night in a cold steel cage.
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Oh, and there are questions for Kiyomi, too. Although she referred to Olivia's orders about Seth's "sleeping place", no one forced her to do what she did next. I don't believe her room is being watched, which means it was her personal decision.
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As far as I know, only Seth can have an "romance" with Kiyomi. Where do Kane and Olivia come into this equation?
This is just an assumption but I think it would be something like protecting both of them from possible gossip if someone entered Kiyome's room. because surely from a certain rank they can enter wherever they want.
The issue of the femdom scene is already more debatable.
 

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As far as I know, only Seth can have an "romance" with Kiyomi. Where do Kane and Olivia come into this equation?
Olivia comes into it in the scene where she can go play police with Cassandra and Kiyomi. Kiyomi will ask Liv about special treatment for Kane. If she is told to treat him the same as everybody else, it opens a door for a relationship between Olivia and Kiyomi. Kind of like how if Seth says to treat him like everybody else, it opens the door for him with Kiyomi.

From the walkthrough:
“I should tell her to treat Kane the exact same as everyone else in the program.” sis_kiyomi_p +2 $ Kiyomidoor = True (highly recommend a save with this choice if interested in Olivia exploring someday a relationship with Kiyomi romantically/lesbian - choice opens possible door for later scenes
 
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