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Stan5851
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This is impossible. It's a complex variation game with many different offshoots (within the main Dom and Sub routes), and dozens of important variables and flags directly affect one path or another in the short or long term (all the way to the final endings!), so there is no a priori single path... For example, me playing only the Dom route has about 12-15 saves that are different from each other. Maviarab has over 20-25+ (for both routes). So you have to play yourself, building your own unique path.
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Does anybody happen to know which Hair asset was used on Olivia? I've been trying to replicate it but can't really figure out what asset it actually is ...
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Unfortunately you are wrong. I just done another play through of Kane as subk4 and Oliva good/sub. She is evil to Kane on numerous occasions. I really didn't want to post a load of images to show my point( as there is another game thread on here were a particular member post's pages and pages of images) but I don't see any other option. I will put them into spoilers.
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I really didn't want to do this sort of a post but I couldn't keep quiet and read yours and others say that Myself and bratkoratko and others who disagree with you are wrong.
I will not say anymore on this I have proved my point of view on Olivia in that she is being corrupted by the power and so called family that have only been in her life for 5 minutes and care so little for her Brother who has always be there for her, her whole life no matter what path she is on. This also wouldn't be the first time I have proved other's as being incorrect on this game. I did also prove 2 of the developers team wrong about something related to this game on discord And that is all I will say on that Matter and I hope that they will respect that.
It is possible that because of the many different variables this game has that even though 2 players play the same route but one different choice that they make can result in different dialogue. Also perspective is in the eye of the beholder. 2 poeple can look at the same painting and still see something different. 1 would see the beauty in the brush strokes and the other would see the beauty in the combination of the colours used. Nether are necessarily wrong.
Finally I'm not saying Olivia is a horrible person or that I don't like Olivia Because I do like her character and I do think deep down that she is a good person but how much of that good person will be there at the end remains to be seen.
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We are talking semantics up on that point of evil and good in term of Olivia’s actions… you may think she’s being corrupted with power but clearly there’s two different styles of play with Olivia with Demoness Olivia (who’s actually drunk with power) and good Olivia (who’s actually decently fair but remember has to follow the guidelines of the gambit… you may see the words “I”, “me”, ect. But in reality she has to follow the program to a T and the moments they are “alone” it’s more of a symbiotic relationship between the two… which Miss Tess has even given the option to gown down the road of seeing her sexually or not… like I said, I’m not going to continue arguing over personal opinion/views on good Olivia, but I will say the dude before was entirely wrong on his statements with Olivia and personally if you want to think that good Olivia is getting drunk on power, go for it, but I’ll see the painting as it is, just as many others view or the same way I do, I.e. Maviarab tbh if you want the definite answer, I’d recommend messaging Miss Tess on discord since I know you just recently joined? And you didn’t prove any of the developers wrong on discord? I’m in the same discord and you didn’t at all… those aren’t developers you were talking too… which I’m assuming is you talking about Harry’s family and that situation… you pointed out one thing, which isn’t that important to the grand scheme of things and it’s not like they weren’t even incorrect on it… if you actually have any questions at all, like I said, Tag Miss Tess on your subjective view on Olivia’s morality, I’m not going to get into a back and forth as well, since the mods will remove it anyways if it gets to outta control
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I believe....it is Raffaella Hair for G3.
You could ask on the discord but for some reason (unless ordered by Tess) the two people on the Discord who make Olivia fan art are very protective over the assets for some reason, or even tell people what certain assets of Olivia are to the point of just not even bothering replying to any message...*shrugs*
Lots of images on the forum is fine but yes, the correct way to do it is to put them in a spoiler tag as you did.
No, you clearly can't. If anything is open to intepretation, then it is not...clear. In hindsight we know she does...
Yes, and as you say later than you can't say it's because Chanel is there, well yes you can...because Chanel is there. Even if Chanel offered to leave and Olivia said no...she is still there. You really seem to not be grasping the concept of 'keeping up appearances'...I also notice you have zero SisBro points. Also, idiot Kane has got himself on the SubPath...Olivia is a Z3 Warden of the facility. Whether you or anyone else likes it or not, she is his superior and he is literally nothing. Not that it matters, still very open to interpretation.
No need at all...You're not proving anything because like the other poster, you're being disengenuous with wording and images and cherry picking conversations to prove a point, when that point doesn't exist and neither does that dialogue make one.
You really haven't at all. The scene you posted is Olivia trying to determine if SubKane can be a love interest and just how far he would go for her, hence (and you very kindly provided a screenshot) why you can earn PrincessEyes points (the second time in that scene I might add and which are an Olivia variable btw, not a Kane variable, even it is Kane's choice).
You also conveniently left out the dialogue immediately before about Olivia exploring her own feelings and her questions to Kane about how he sees her (because for Olivia to have a romance with SubKane, she really does have to make 1000% sure he would walk over glass for her given her precarious position), and the conversation before that regarding whether Kane believes women should be in charge or not when Olivia tells him about her chat with Alessandra.
Context is everything and it's very easy to create a narrative in isolation to try and prove a point that doesn't exist. However, even if taking different choices....what you showed still doesn't prove anything and certainly (in my eyes at least and remember, I despise the sub path) doesn't show Olivia being corrupted by power.
She isn't a prison guard...she works solely at the Joy Facility. Semantics....maybe yeah heh.
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Ah! Dominique, the undisputed queen. Together we'll crush the rebellion and start a whole new era of prosperity. Well, not for the slaves, of course, but...
Thank you for you help i actually figured out on another thread its "Delphi Hair" by AprilYSH.
As far as the fan art goes, or the discord in general, has there ever been any Olivia asset discussed or reveled on there? like anything? The people that do the fan art, they figured out the assets themselves? or Tess basically gave them the assets to post fan art?
Have you tried doing it yourself? figured out some assets yourself?
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Screw em. Angelica aside...I' actually struggle to rate Olivia and Dominique, I love Olivia but Dominique is just something else...be hard pressed to choose one over the other. Doesn't help that I think we're supposed to be after Olivia, the psuedo not sister lol...if Olivia wasn't in it then Dominique easily beats the hell out of the rest, certainly Karlsson sister wise.Ah! Dominique, the undisputed queen. Together we'll crush the rebellion and start a whole new era of prosperity. Well, not for the slaves, of course, but...
Oh cool!
I have no idea and to be honest, I've stopped caring. I think I did figure out her original base model but the more I look at it the less I think so. I also don't currently have Daz installed as doing lot of PC work and chaging drives around and stuff and my own assets are on a seperate external drive so can't easily check anyway at the moment.
As for the fan artists on Discord...I mean...even if they don't wish to reveal, that's fine, I actually have no issue with that.....but a 'sorry but no' would at least be appreciated and polite rather than just being completely ignored. Some folk eh?
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Thank you for your response! hopefully one day she releases the asset list and we can all do our own fan art
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Well by all accounts, the asset list is largely moot for Olivia. She is a hybrid of assets (which Tess apparently lost/can't recall what...why she changes lsightly around Ep7 iirc).
However, in the future, yes, she could share the actual duf file...which is what the fanart folk could do...but alas. Most of the rest are pretty easy tio figure out and many, like Chanel and Taylor have not been modified at all from the base asset.
Olivia though, is a very different kettle of fish.
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Please warn about jump scares before you post such disgusting pics....
Dom can get it though
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Hey, I'm with you on V, I don't find anything about her appealing at all.
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I could have put in more pics but didn't want to not becaue i was trying to make a point out of context but because those images wouldn't really add to the point I was making... but I can see why you would think that.
Maybe because you despise the sub route is why you don't see my point of view. I in real life am a true switch. That means I am both Dom and Sub it depends on the partner that I choose to be with. Hence one of the reasons why I love this game so much. I can see things from both sides.
You, Silver_Crow 117 and I along with others who also agree with my view will never see eye to eye on this. You see the painting your way and I see it my way.
I won't Message Miss Tess because they have enough on their plate with the upcoming update and don't need anyone messaging them with a silly question like that.
Also I never said anything about the developers. I said the developers team on discord, they are I assume moderators on there hence why they were answering the #ask the dev. And to me it was an important issue as they wrongly said that harry was stepfather. even Miss Tess herself said "read the dialogue heh, search stepdaughter in text." I at first thought that she meant myself but after doing a very quick play though I was correct that Harry was the Father and not the step father as the others thought. So therefor I did indeed prove them wrong. I had hope that I wouldn't have needed to talk about another forum on here but as you didn't respect that request and basically called me a liar I've had to defend myself.
I am certainly glad that I didn't come across you on there. Because of the interaction that I received from the discord team I went and subscribed to the dev on patreon, That might be why you think I was new to discord but in fact I have been on there a while. Keeping myself to myself.
You both can quote me as much as you want now because I am done trying to talk reason with you both.
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I feel safe saying this (as it's not a kink...so therefore no shaming involved) but I do not even believe in the concept of switching..let alone being a whataver a 'true' switch is. There's no such thing in my humble opinion. Being a dom or a sub (talking true submissive here, not what is in KG which is not submissiveness) is a state of being...a mindset...it's who and what you are...part of your very core self...not something you switch around like a light.
Sorry...but anyone who says that is not someone I can ever, or will ever take seriously. Next you'll be telling me you can train subs/are a brat trainer and think Fetlife is a good site to hang out in.
I think it is perhaps best we close this entire conversation as no, we will never see eye to eye, especially when you believe that a dom will never understand your pov on that path when the reality is, I can probably understand it far better.
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V is ok for me, I'd call her "mid", there's worse and better, and she looks like she smokes a lot
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Mav I gotta disagree with you here my friend, Veronica is one of the top tier characters in the game (because it’s my opinion lmao) it’s unfortunate tho she won’t be in part 2 that much…
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Oh I knew you'd disagree with that comment lol.
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She’s one of the best!! At least she wears clothes a lot more than some!!V is ok for me, I'd call her "mid", there's worse and better, and she looks like she smokes a lot
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I know everyone is going to hate me for my opinions. next chapter will probably drastically change my opinions anyways though lol
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Claudia is underrated because she's appealing on a lot of different routes. Her only problem is she hasn't gotten much screen time yet. If you do an evil playthrough you can corrupt the helplessly sweet girl which is hot. If you're playing a good character then she's great. If you're playing a sub character she's great. (In the case of Dominique, she's already corrupted, you just give her the thumbs up. In the case of Claudia, you actually seem to get to push her that way... It feels much more enjoyable IMO)
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Good Dominique is also underrated. She actually feels more submissive to a domineering Kane on her good route rather than evil route. And while evil route can lead to spicy content, it's also kind of sad lol. I like the idea of Dominique being a domineering queen in public and completely submissive to Kane in private.
Katsumi is awesome. Whenever I try to play a more neutral Kane, she always pulls me over to the dark side lol. I hope she has more paths in the future.
I like Julliette on the dom/evil route, but at the same time she kinda makes me sick... I think at some point Juliette says she likes to watch, which makes me think that it would be hot if one of the Karlsson sisters could be turned into a cuckquean.
Imagine Julliette... evil domineering bitch in public... masochistic cuckquean in private... Maybe that would ruin her for some people though.
As for Alessandra... confusing character...
I can't remember exactly the details but iirc Phoebe/Celeste/Claudia are from a family which make an extremely powerful ally for the Karlsson family, so maybe that's why Alessandra is close with Celeste because that character is seriously dumb as bricks and I can't imagine why Alessandra would ever be friends with her except to use her for her family's assets.
I don't really like the secret sub route that much in general. With some work, it could've been my favorite route. I thought it was going to be Kane, a submissive guy, having to pretend to be a domineering guy but it's all an act and it's a struggle for him. That's what I thought the route was going to be, which would've been interesting but... Well, Tess said it wasn't intending to be a very significant branch. And one of Alessandra's ideas of domination is forcing Kane to eat more food than he wants to lol, which is gross.
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I would actually like Mia if not for her rather unfortunate eyebrows.
Who?
Put a lot of characters in 'Who?' because I feel like we haven't fully seen them yet. We've seen a decent amount of Kiyomi but either we haven't seen who she truly is yet, or Tess changed her mind halfway through about who Kiyomi was supposed to be.
She's got freckles... Hot.
The way she talks is annoying though.
I feel like we don't truly know her yet. I assume she has a dark side like Dominique, that would at least make her more interesting... like if Astrid was under the impression that Veronica was as nice of a girl as she is. Meanwhile, Veronica is about as evil as any of her sisters, and reaaaally doesn't want Astrid to know it lol. Not sure if this is the case or not, but it would be an interesting dynamic imo