Varrilete

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I have that playthrough saved as well and is one of my favorites...but reasoning still stands that Olivia has had to do nothing for what she has. The Gambit is structured in a way to prove worth before taking the throne...suffering and doling out suffering is Ying and yang to the Carlson's, the Ying for Olivia has yet to be seen/happen.
Oh i hope she does, her MC brother will not be so nice if he has more power than she :devilish: :devilish: :devilish: :devilish:
 
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Iam quite new to Adult games and this forum, this being my first post. So I dont know if this, is a game for more advanced players, but I almost gave up playing. Im sub in real life, so obviously took the sub path and its just the same thing over and over. I spend my time licking pussy and shoes, while trying to avoid being FUTA or losing my tongue. I dont believe a word anyone says even my supposed sister. I learned more reading this forum, than I did playing the game. I didnt know Olivia wasnt my sister, although, after being told how good I am compared to other subs and even saving someones life I still got demoted to K3, I kind of lost interest and quickly skipped to the current end.
I would of give up there, but apparently, theres an update about to be released. This game could really do, with a heres the story so far and the gameplay needs a few hints, just to keep you interested. I mean if the game continues, with more of the same I will just give up. I know you are all enjoying playing it, but I dont see why. What am I missing?, unless your all on the Dom path.
 
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Don Sucio

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Iam quite new to Adult games and this forum, this being my first post. So I dont know if this, is a game for more advanced players, but I almost gave up playing. Im sub in real life, so obviously took the sub path and its just the same thing over and over. I spend my time licking pussy and shoes, while trying to avoid being FUTA or losing my tongue. I dont believe a word anyone says even my supposed sister. I learned more reading this forum, than I did playing the game. I didnt know Olivia wasnt my sister, although, after being told how good I am compared to other subs and even saving someones life I still got demoted to K3, I kind of lost interest and quickly skipped to the current end.
I would of give up there, but apparently, theres an update about to be released. This game could really do, with a heres the story so far and the gameplay needs a few hints, just to keep you interested. I mean if the game continues, with more of the same I will just give up. I know you are all enjoying playing it, but I dont see why. What am I missing?, unless your all on the Dom path.
I couldn't tell you friend, I have several saved, including the sub path and I have enjoyed it like the most. If it is true that perhaps it is not a game that I would recommend playing as soon as you enter the world of xxx games, but it is one of the best on the forum. The answer: it may just not work for you, maybe look for something else?
 

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Iam quite new to Adult games and this forum, this being my first post. So I dont know if this, is a game for more advanced players, but I almost gave up playing. Im sub in real life, so obviously took the sub path and its just the same thing over and over. I spend my time licking pussy and shoes, while trying to avoid being FUTA or losing my tongue. I dont believe a word anyone says even my supposed sister. I learned more reading this forum, than I did playing the game. I didnt know Olivia wasnt my sister, although, after being told how good I am compared to other subs and even saving someones life I still got demoted to K3, I kind of lost interest and quickly skipped to the current end.
I would of give up there, but apparently, theres an update about to be released. This game could really do, with a heres the story so far and the gameplay needs a few hints, just to keep you interested. I mean if the game continues, with more of the same I will just give up. I know you are all enjoying playing it, but I dont see why. What am I missing?, unless your all on the Dom path.
You're not wrong on several points, as I'm someone who plays this game for the sub routes as well. The content can get really repetitive really fast, and without a walkthrough of some kind (luckily I snagged the 'Multi-Mod' linked in the OP, which really helped), you could be missing a huge amount of scenes and never know it. That's the weakness of games with many different branches depending on choices, like this, though some would argue that's exactly what makes it fun (I'm more of the 'one playthrough, see all' side of the spectrum, but I liked the game regardless, it's just a style choice).

When asking whether or not this is considered a more advanced game in the adult game genre, I would argue yes, simply due to the fact that there are many adult games that are linear and much smaller that might be better to dip your toes in. This game is complicated and lengthy and, while not necessarily rocket science, can feel overwhelming. My suggestion would be to put this one on the backburner (you can 'Watch' the thread in the upper right corner, or bookmark the first post, just so that you can keep up with updates), and use the tag search function to browse for more games you'd be interested in that aren't necessarily so long/repetitive-at-times.
 

honkyfifteen

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Iam quite new to Adult games and this forum, this being my first post. So I dont know if this, is a game for more advanced players, but I almost gave up playing. Im sub in real life, so obviously took the sub path and its just the same thing over and over. I spend my time licking pussy and shoes, while trying to avoid being FUTA or losing my tongue. I dont believe a word anyone says even my supposed sister. I learned more reading this forum, than I did playing the game. I didnt know Olivia wasnt my sister, although, after being told how good I am compared to other subs and even saving someones life I still got demoted to K3, I kind of lost interest and quickly skipped to the current end.
I would of give up there, but apparently, theres an update about to be released. This game could really do, with a heres the story so far and the gameplay needs a few hints, just to keep you interested. I mean if the game continues, with more of the same I will just give up. I know you are all enjoying playing it, but I dont see why. What am I missing?, unless your all on the Dom path.
I would suggest to play with Sancho's mod. This game follows a pretty complex structure of multiple protags, multiple paths and a ton of variables which affect your playthrough. Sancho's mod does a good job of explaining the choices and how will they affect your playthrough. So get that and you might enjoy the game.
i dont know about sub path, so probably someone else can comment on that, but the dom path is pretty enjoyable.
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A week ago a guy said that it would most likely be released in mid-April, but I don't know if that information is reliable. If you ask me, I think it's logical to wait for the update in the middle as well, since at the beginning it was going to come out in March and in theory it was almost finished, so it would have to be in April.
From June to April,Woow. Looks like blockbuster movie making time.
 

Z - Reborn

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Public post just dropped! There are some CGs on Patreon too.


Public Post (Rough Version Renders/Dialogue done!)

Hi everyone!
I am just making a public post this time because I am currently rendering a final batch of images. When that is done later today, I will officially be done with a very rough version of all dialogue and renders, which is a big step to move towards editing.
Just non-adult previews because it's a public post, haha! Sorry if any are repeats, just randomly picking them from main game image folder. I got like six images "deleted" from being able to post even though they are definitely not adult shots so the screener is a bit tough, heh.
The rough total of all renders (I honestly haven't counted yet because I am moving three more batches of images into the final game files tonight) will be approximately 3,900 to 4,000 renders. I have done about 55 animations, but I will end up using about 20-25+ in the end. (I typically throw away some animations and renders/dialogue) My editing usually cuts down dialogue (too wordy) quite a bit, and I often correct about 3-5% of renders but more often towards 3%. So 3% of say 3900 might be about 120ish or so.
I'm going to sleep for like 16 hours!! today and veg and then Monday move towards the editing phase. So what does that entail? Patrons have already seen this, but it helps to be clear for everyone:
1. Editing dialogue, renders, and animated files so they work well together.
2. Inserting music for each scene and then see that everything seems to work well.
3. The hardest part I save for last -- I have to play test every single path, code flag (choices), and make sure everything works perfectly. I often end up "playing" the game over 50 times which does take a while. I usually do 2-3 full playthroughs at normal speed as I check everything more carefully early, and then in later ones I fly through dialogue and tend to check for saves/paths, etc.
The Test Version will come out first. It is important to note that this version will be missing three minor scenes that are not critical, but I am adding them after to the Final Version. This version is designed to let higher tier people enjoy the game, but also hopefully help weed out any problems I may have missed. I usually will also add a closing scene afterwards too.
Another big note is that I am trying to "close" the game with Episode 7 and make a new "game" with Episode 8 moving forward so it's like a separate season/set like some other games have done. Because of this, I am not sure how the saves will work on the Test Version which will not have coded this change formally in the game. But I am going to ask some way smarter people than I about this kind of thing.
Episode 8 -- which is very big on outline/paper -- will be split into smaller chunks like 1,500 renders or so. The size of Episode 7 was simply too big to manage properly, and Episode 5 (which was more towards 2k renders) was closer to the sweet spot of overall management of the game for me as a dev just keeping track of everything. I am also going to try and release something every 4 months (3 times a year) as a metric/goal but it always depends on my free time which flows up and down at weird times.
I'll add more this week as move further along, but it's finally getting towards the release...whew! I sincerely appreciate the patience and support, especially as I have recovered...I know a few can read between the lines more than I write.
Have a great April everyone!
 

Don Sucio

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From June to April,Woow. Looks like blockbuster movie making time.
It's been a big delay, but hey, if that helps the game go well and with a decent duration I agree. It will surely come out by April 15 at the latest, or at least that's what I calculate.
 

Don Sucio

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I am also going to try and release something every 4 months (3 times a year) as a metric/goal but it always depends on my free time which flows up and down at weird times.
I like the idea of having more updates a year, although my fear is that these are too short and know little, although it is logical that they are short, less development time less content (obvious).
 

Yotanbamix

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I really wonder what made Tess think she could release Episode 7 in January. When she said that, she still had over 1000 renders to finish (it seems she added a lot of scenes), dialogues to write, editing to do, music to insert, and 2-3 full playthroughs to play, and then testing with the patreons.
 

Don Sucio

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I really wonder what made Tess think she could release Episode 7 in January. When she said that, she still had over 1000 renders to finish (it seems she added a lot of scenes), dialogues to write, editing to do, music to insert, and 2-3 full playthroughs to play, and then testing with the patreons.
Sometimes things don't go as planned, either it was complicated on a personal level or she miscalculated the launch time, it's hard to know ‍♂
 

ciberma7865

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I really wonder what made Tess think she could release Episode 7 in January. When she said that, she still had over 1000 renders to finish (it seems she added a lot of scenes), dialogues to write, editing to do, music to insert, and 2-3 full playthroughs to play, and then testing with the patreons.
It's most likely that because she had more time she added/changed more things, it's something that happen a lot in creative work when thing that you didn't expected happen and you end up pushing back your project
 

Halalidin

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Public post just dropped! There are some CGs on Patreon too.


Public Post (Rough Version Renders/Dialogue done!)

Hi everyone!
I am just making a public post this time because I am currently rendering a final batch of images. When that is done later today, I will officially be done with a very rough version of all dialogue and renders, which is a big step to move towards editing.
Just non-adult previews because it's a public post, haha! Sorry if any are repeats, just randomly picking them from main game image folder. I got like six images "deleted" from being able to post even though they are definitely not adult shots so the screener is a bit tough, heh.
The rough total of all renders (I honestly haven't counted yet because I am moving three more batches of images into the final game files tonight) will be approximately 3,900 to 4,000 renders. I have done about 55 animations, but I will end up using about 20-25+ in the end. (I typically throw away some animations and renders/dialogue) My editing usually cuts down dialogue (too wordy) quite a bit, and I often correct about 3-5% of renders but more often towards 3%. So 3% of say 3900 might be about 120ish or so.
I'm going to sleep for like 16 hours!! today and veg and then Monday move towards the editing phase. So what does that entail? Patrons have already seen this, but it helps to be clear for everyone:
1. Editing dialogue, renders, and animated files so they work well together.
2. Inserting music for each scene and then see that everything seems to work well.
3. The hardest part I save for last -- I have to play test every single path, code flag (choices), and make sure everything works perfectly. I often end up "playing" the game over 50 times which does take a while. I usually do 2-3 full playthroughs at normal speed as I check everything more carefully early, and then in later ones I fly through dialogue and tend to check for saves/paths, etc.
The Test Version will come out first. It is important to note that this version will be missing three minor scenes that are not critical, but I am adding them after to the Final Version. This version is designed to let higher tier people enjoy the game, but also hopefully help weed out any problems I may have missed. I usually will also add a closing scene afterwards too.
Another big note is that I am trying to "close" the game with Episode 7 and make a new "game" with Episode 8 moving forward so it's like a separate season/set like some other games have done. Because of this, I am not sure how the saves will work on the Test Version which will not have coded this change formally in the game. But I am going to ask some way smarter people than I about this kind of thing.
Episode 8 -- which is very big on outline/paper -- will be split into smaller chunks like 1,500 renders or so. The size of Episode 7 was simply too big to manage properly, and Episode 5 (which was more towards 2k renders) was closer to the sweet spot of overall management of the game for me as a dev just keeping track of everything. I am also going to try and release something every 4 months (3 times a year) as a metric/goal but it always depends on my free time which flows up and down at weird times.
I'll add more this week as move further along, but it's finally getting towards the release...whew! I sincerely appreciate the patience and support, especially as I have recovered...I know a few can read between the lines more than I write.
Have a great April everyone!
Kane's bro has some sick kicks in the preview photos lmao
 

MilesEdgeworth

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I really wonder what made Tess think she could release Episode 7 in January. When she said that, she still had over 1000 renders to finish (it seems she added a lot of scenes), dialogues to write, editing to do, music to insert, and 2-3 full playthroughs to play, and then testing with the patreons.
I assume she was pushing herself to hit that six month window and underestimated how much time was involved with that many images and dialogue by the time she got to month 5 hence why she made feb free.
 

MilesEdgeworth

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Im very interested as to why the woman is stepping in guacamole in that next to lat render.

So as per images in the last two public posts we know the following happens
1. Celeste's boyfriend gets cucked
2. Olivia's party
3. Kane visits the temple
4. Kane starts working with his new pod.

PS. Unsolicited advice from yours truly, would advise against pushing yourself to go faster, 6-8 months seems to be the sweet spot, Pushing for 4 months is legit asking for trouble and headaches you dont need.
 
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honkyfifteen

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Im very interested as to why the woman is stepping in guacamole in that next to lat render.

So as per images in the last two public posts we know the following happens
1. Celeste's boyfriend gets cucked
2. Olivia's party
3. Kane visits the temple
4. Kane starts working with his new pod.

PS. Unsolicited advice from yours truly, would advise against pushing yourself to go faster, 6-8 months seems to be the sweet spot, Pushing for 4 months is legit asking for trouble and headaches you dont need.
Is that celeste or the other sister? forgot her name, claudia i guess?
 

S8N69

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Also At the beginning, Kane does say it was a setup to get him and jake into jail. So Kane actually didn't commit any crime willingly.

So it is not fair for Karlson sisters to take Oliva to the high table with red-carpet and planned to get Kane to the slave system by catching him in the crime that he did not commit.


If there is no way Olivia get to the lower level as Slave just like Kane. I would say Developers view of the game is unjustified.
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may be dev should have introduced at some point that Karlson sisters never had Male executive equal their level or Z rank employee level or above, since their father. And due to what they had to go through Alexander Karlsons methods the sisters. They came to mentality that they never wanted Kane (who is obviously male) to go to the higher rank just like they wanted Olivia to be.

So they made a setup to make it look like Kane committed a crime and then put him in jail and then taken as slave level anything in K rank category, not the Z rank.
All of this is explained subtly through the game's story.

Both characters are direct children of Alexander. Alexander desperately wanted a male son and went through great efforts to get one but failed to do so knowingly/officially, which is why he created the program and split up the company between his female children. Kane and Olivia were NOT known to publicly exist as Alexander's children and your characters' mothers purposefully decided to leave you out of that life, presumably to harden the characters but also keep them away from the company for reasons unknown. The story starts when the company finds all of you and immediately takes contact with you. He ordered Dominique to oversee it, and it's meant as a way to test Kane to make sure he's fit for the role and put him through hardship to make him stronger/make him prove himself. The sisters get very friendly with you when you start rising past K7, the program is just a way to test Kane and make sure he's fit to lead the company. It's not directly stated that he's the named successor but imo it's heavily implied that he's to inherit the central leadership role of the company, if he is capable of it.

Regarding Olivia sub route, the default name "Kane" given for the main character sounds phonetically identical to Cain, a character from the Bible who killed his own brother. This could be purely coincidental or it might, down the line, mean that only one of the children is to take power over the company and that (evil) Kane will have to betray his sister and bring her down in order to secure power for himself.

It's also to be noted that it's not implied that all sisters are complying with this. They regularly spy on eachother, and if you take the Olivia good route and spare your second brother one of the sisters will take advantage of you and try to put you down, implying that she wants you to help HER take over the company instead and keep you in a background role beneath her, excercising her power on you by doing things to the second brother against your wishes.
 
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All of this is explained subtly through the game's story.

Both characters are direct children of Alexander. Alexander desperately wanted a male son and went through great efforts to get one but failed to do so knowingly/officially, which is why he created the program and split up the company between his female children. Kane and Olivia were NOT known to publicly exist as Alexander's children and your characters' mothers purposefully decided to leave you out of that life, presumably to harden the characters but also keep them away from the company for reasons unknown. The story starts when the company finds all of you and immediately takes contact with you. He ordered Dominique to oversee it, and it's meant as a way to test Kane to make sure he's fit for the role and put him through hardship to make him stronger/make him prove himself. The sisters get very friendly with you when you start rising past K7, the program is just a way to test Kane and make sure he's fit to lead the company. It's not directly stated that he's the named successor but imo it's heavily implied that he's to inherit the central leadership role of the company, if he is capable of it.

Regarding Olivia sub route, the default name "Kane" given for the main character sounds phonetically identical to Cain, a character from the Bible who killed his own brother. This could be purely coincidental or it might, down the line, mean that only one of the children is to take power over the company and that (evil) Kane will have to betray his sister and bring her down in order to secure power for himself.

It's also to be noted that it's not implied that all sisters are complying with this. They regularly spy on eachother, and if you take the Olivia good route and spare your second brother one of the sisters will take advantage of you and try to put you down, implying that she wants you to help HER take over the company instead and keep you in a background role beneath her, excercising her power on you by doing things to the second brother against your wishes.
I have been replaying the game and i don't think you are correct in some of what you wrote. Kane i don't believe is a biological son to Alexander. Kane seems to be the son of the guy who helped his mother escape.

Now they are testing Kane due to the fact that Alexander was tested in a similar way when he was coming into his own before he founded the Karlsson Group. And if Kane proves worthy, Alexander will have him take over. Or if he fails he will be the slave of one of the sisters who will take over.

What Alexander actually wanted was a male heir from who he believed was the perfect woman, Callista. But since he couldn't do it directly he wants to do it indirectly. One of his daughters having a male heir with Kane. Kane's and the daughter's child is the true successor. This was stated in the game when Yvette, Elena, and Veronica where having a meeting in Alexander's office.

Now concerning Olivia, she is the absolute weirdest case. She seems to be the implied daughter of Elena and Alexander. How Olivia came to be with Callista is unknown. And All the other sisters had to go through hardships as well. The only person who did not was Olivia unless we count her growing up poor as a hardship.
 
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