VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.2A Final] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[lorkdubo]

Does anybody else think that the Dev introduces too many new characters too quickly? Take the latest episode as an example - on the Dom route we get a new assistant, pod handler, 4 pod girls (we knew Amy from the previous episode), meet Scarlet, get a maid if k9 as well as the whole other island business with Seth.
My point is it can feel a bit overwhelming, because you don't get to know them very well. I feel like the role of sweet assistant could easily be played by Raven (isn't that her job anyways?) and the cruel one by someone like Sam. Of course, I assume the Dev has plans for most of them, but those payoffs are probably a few years away.
Other than that, this game is awesome and very creative at how it portrays certain kinks. Also, Evil Olivia on a sub route is on a such power trip you can't help but admire it. She's like a hot, sexy Palpatine. Try erasing that image from your mind)

Olivia's route doesn't matter that much in my opinion. She is 100% acting and already has an objective set in mind, and with the last past recollection of Olivia and MC is really clear that she is head over heels for MC where she would literally die for him. I guess she was kind of skewed to loving his brother or maybe even groomed. Now, what I do not know is if the MC is also acting, which would be a twist.

 

[motseer]

Yeah I doubt we can stop our pod participation...the show seems to be a general slave thing. Just have to hope our girls do well.

Anybody who messes with my pod girls is goin' on the naughty list... Jus' Sayin'

She's a new character called Charlotte Rothschild ( working name) and she's a matriarch of a major family in New Paris.

Potential sequel?

 

[Cirelc]

Take the latest episode as an example - on the Dom route we get a new assistant, pod handler, 4 pod girls (we knew Amy from the previous episode), meet Scarlet

Scarlett is in the Game since Episode 3 (if you play Sub Route) and if you play the Evil Dom Route and Olivia gets rid of Seth you meet her in Episode 5.

I feel like the role of sweet assistant could easily be played by Raven (isn't that her job anyways?)

No:
Raven is your Assistant for the K9/10 Managment Training. The W2 Pod Training is a Side Project and thats why you get introduced to Taylor and Mia or Desdemona.

Does anybody else think that the Dev introduces too many new characters too quickly?

Not really and we will meet new people in the next Episode again.

Olivia's route doesn't matter that much in my opinion.

When you play as Olivia you make mayor choices and her alignment and/or sis_team have a huge impact, too. Her route matters atleast on the Kane Dom Paths.

 

[Maviarab]

Anybody who messes with my pod girls is goin' on the naughty list... Jus' Sayin'

For sure...I can/could see all of them being very useful to us in the future, even Angelica (who is probably quite sadistic). Again, all about making those allies and loyalties...firm...but fair...and they can all help us in some way.

Scarlett is in the Game since Episode 3 (if you play Sub Route) and if you play the Evil Dom Route and Olivia gets rid of Seth you meet her in Episode 5.

No:
Raven is your Assistant for the K9/10 Managment Training. The W2 Pod Training is a Side Project and thats why you get introduced to Taylor and Mia or Desdemona.

Not really and we will meet new people in the next Episode again.

When you play as Olivia you take mayor choices and her alignment and/or sis_team have a huge impact, too. Her route matters atleast on the Kane Dom Paths.

Couldn't sum up a reply any better.

 

[Cirelc]

even Angelica (who is probably quite sadistic).

Did i miss something? Why do you think she is sadistic? I had hope she would be my LI for the good dom Kane.

 

[depeche mode]

I wonder what Svetlana role will be

 

[Maviarab]

Did i miss something? Why do you think she is sadistic? I had hope she would be my LI for the good dom Kane.

I didn't mean sadistic in a Juliette type of way, maybe my terminology was off there but more in a way that...Chloe will literally be an obediant puppy and do and agree to whatever to try and advance....where as Angelica with her 'attitude'....given where she comes from (so let's not forget, is probably a savage in her region and took no shit, which is my hinted opinion of the area up north)...is kinda bad ass and would probably quite enjoy some extreme stuff, if for no other reason, than to just prove a point, advance and get out of there (remember, hints she could be a good envoy for her region).

I just get the impression of her (perhaps wrongly) that she would be extremely useful to us (as a high rank) as either good or evil Kane (someone who will get the job done and be quite happy to fuck up someone she disliked), in comparison to say, Amy or Kelly, who I could never see doing anything 'extreme' even if their life depended on it.

Just my thoughts and opinions given the information we have been told...which could be way off base admittedly heh but given she is already earmarked by the 'higher ups' as someone with great potential...remember perhaps what 'great potential' means to most of the Karlsson group lol. I also don't say any of that in a bad way, I actually really like her character within the pod.

 

[Stan5851]

I didn't mean sadistic in a Juliette type of way, maybe my terminology was off there but more in a way that...Chloe will literally be an obediant puppy and do and agree to whatever to try and advance....where as Angelica with her 'attitude'....given where she comes from (so let's not forget, is probably a savage in her region and took no shit, which is my hinted opinion of the area up north)...is kinda bad ass and would probably quite enjoy some extreme stuff, if for no other reason, than to just prove a point, advance and get out of there (remember, hints she could be a good envoy for her region).

I just get the impression of her (perhaps wrongly) that she would be extremely useful to us (as a high rank) as either good or evil Kane (someone who will get the job done and be quite happy to fuck up someone she disliked), in comparison to say, Amy or Kelly, who I could never see doing anything 'extreme' even if their life depended on it.

Just my thoughts and opinions given the information we have been told...which could be way off base admittedly heh but given she is already earmarked by the 'higher ups' as someone with great potential...remember perhaps what 'great potential' means to most of the Karlsson group lol. I also don't say any of that in a bad way, I actually really like her character within the pod.

You've laid it out perfectly and I agree with that analysis. As for Chloe - I don't like people who are willing to cut their neighbors' throats just to jump up a notch. Besides, we have Kitty and we know what she is valued for and what qualities she possesses. So the fewer women like Katsumi (Kitty) at Karlsson's disposal, the better. And I won't let Chloe get too high no matter what. On the other hand, Angelica could really make a good leader, decent enough and loyal enough to Kane.. (and even his potential LI).

 

[Maviarab]

You've laid it out perfectly and I agree with that analysis. As for Chloe - I don't like people who are willing to cut their neighbors' throats just to jump up a notch. Besides, we have Kitty and we know what she is valued for and what qualities she possesses. So the fewer women like Katsumi (Kitty) at Karlsson's disposal, the better. And I won't let Chloe get too high no matter what. On the other hand, Angelica could really make a good leader, decent enough and loyal enough to Kane.. (and even his potential LI).

Yup...and thanks. I didn't articulate myself properly at first so hope that other post made more sense for Cirelc.

It's an interesting Pod for me...Amy...well...she may never get anywhere (may be scripted that she doesn't for all we know) but she is so adorable and I just want to look after her. Like with motseer, if that is to happen, as long she becomes 'our sex slave' then at least (if on that kinda good route) we can take care of her somewhat in private and if choices made, I think she already looks up to us somewhat and knows we won't hurt her. Kelly...seems the enigma to me, absolutely nothing about her at all in my opinion...no outstanding quality anywhere, for anything. I think she the 'meh..what happens to her happens to her' character of the group (and I have no interest in her at all). Chloe, as you say, she dangerous only in the fact that she seems to have zero morals...about anything. Sure, she obedient but as said in my previous, she understands the situation and will just do it to be a good puppy. She be useful for Katsumi imo...but like yourself, I'd rather not be giving Kitty any more girls if I can help it.

Back to Angelica, she strikes me a little like our old pal (is he still a pal even at this stage) Jake. She understands her situation, but refuses to accept it. Like Jake currently, that's only going to lead down one road. We're going to have to help her adjust...if only in the short term to help her help herself...and thus in time, help us. I think (hope) she will get this and yes, could be a very loyal and incredibly useful person for us and yes, potential LI...though I imagine she will only ever be a 'side-girl LI'...rather than a full blown like the sisters. You can tell she is fiery...full of passion and steel...and won't take any shit from anyone she doesn't have to. If we could get to a stage of getting her to a K10/Z1 also (when we are higher ourselves), we could offer her a lot of protection from others in exchange for said loyalty, though I think if we protect her as much as we can and help her reign in her attitude, that loyalty would probably be given freely.

She is certainly my favourite of the group by a large margin (Amy aside, but Amy is like a favourite pet you just want to hug heh).

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

chloe depends on how much i want a Juliette type under my control. That being said, Im currently hoping mistress tess lets us corrupt angelica

 

[motseer]

Yup...and thanks. I didn't articulate myself properly at first so hope that other post made more sense for Cirelc.

It's an interesting Pod for me...Amy...well...she may never get anywhere (may be scripted that she doesn't for all we know) but she is so adorable and I just want to look after her. Like with motseer, if that is to happen, as long she becomes 'our sex slave' then at least (if on that kinda good route) we can take care of her somewhat in private and if choices made, I think she already looks up to us somewhat and knows we won't hurt her. Kelly...seems the enigma to me, absolutely nothing about her at all in my opinion...no outstanding quality anywhere, for anything. I think she the 'meh..what happens to her happens to her' character of the group (and I have no interest in her at all). Chloe, as you say, she dangerous only in the fact that she seems to have zero morals...about anything. Sure, she obedient but as said in my previous, she understands the situation and will just do it to be a good puppy. She be useful for Katsumi imo...but like yourself, I'd rather not be giving Kitty any more girls if I can help it.

Back to Angelica, she strikes me a llittle like our old pal (is he still a pal even at this stage) Jake. She understands her situation, but refuses to accept it. Like Jake currently, that's only going to lead down one road. We're going to have to help her adjust...if only in the short term to help her help herself...and thus in time, help us. I think (hope) she will get this and yes, could be a very loyal and incredibly useful person for us and yes, potential LI...though I imagine she will only ever be a 'side-girl LI'...rather than a full blown like the sisters. You can tell she is fiery...full of passion and steel...and won't take any shit from anyone she doesn;t have to. If we could get to a stage of getting her to a Z1 also (when we are higher ourselves), we could offer her a lot of protection from others in exchange for said loyalty, though I think if we protect her as much as we can and help her reign in her attitude, that loyalty would probably be given freely.

She is certainly my favourite of the group by a large margin (Amy aside, but Amy is like a favourite pet you just want to hug heh).

I can't really add anything to that because it's what I would've said... I'll just say I hope we can protect Amy and show Angelica how to survive and flourish. Maybe even make her a lieutenant in our personal guard down the road.

 

[risky0]

Chloe Evil dom / Angelica Good dom

Chloe will do anything to achieve her goals. That's why she treats her superiors submissively.
But this is not her true nature.

I need both for the route I'm playing. But we have to choose one.

Chloe's more useful to me because she's not afraid to get her hands dirty.
Especially since there are cunts I'd like to kill.
I can compare her relationship with Mc to the relationship between Elena and Katsumi, so I'm not worried about loyalty.

 

[Maviarab]

Chloe Evil dom / Angelica Good dom

Chloe will do anything to achieve her goals. That's why she treats her superiors submissively.
But this is not his true nature.

I need both for the route I'm playing. But we have to choose one.

Chloe's more useful to me because she's not afraid to get her hands dirty.
Especially since there are cunts I'd like to kill.
I can compare her relationship with Mc to the relationship between Elena and Katsumi, so I'm not worried about loyalty.

Very fair points if on the evil route and would actually agree with picking Chloe in that route.

However, blind loyalty based on career progression is a very fickle thing, and that kind of loyalty is always paper thin. Loyalty based purely upon the person..who they are...how they act...treat you...will always be more solid...every single time. Even in my own personal and business life, I've never had time for people loyal to me just to help/progress themselves. They will betray you sooner or later because you're ultimately just a tool to them. There is no respect there.

 

[Maviarab]

Kinda related but don't want to add/edit a previous post.

Easy to forget but important nontheless to perhaps bear in mind, is that Chloe is actually a slave of Dominique's IIRC (and the family/character tree PDF is correct). Given Chloe's personality traits, this could perhaps have some relevence/importance depending on which path you are on with Dominique (good/evil) and whether persuing a romance option with her....

Just some food for the proverbial thoughts to throw out there.

 

[Zod666]

Miss Tess posted this today View attachment 3112966

So dom path is unlikely to have Elena/Kat, was actually hopping for Elena+Kat evil dom path, oh well.

 

[Cirelc]

Yup...and thanks. I didn't articulate myself properly at first so hope that other post made more sense for Cirelc.

Yes, ty.

So dom path is unlikely to have Elena/Kat, was actually hopping for Elena+Kat evil dom path, oh well.

In my opinion she forgot to mention Katsumi on the dom path, because you can activate her romance flag in Episode 3 and Episode 4 and you took her V Card and you open the JunkoSlave Path only with an active Katsumi Romance, too.

 

[Silver_Crow117]

Yes, ty.


In my opinion she forgot to mention Katsumi on the dom path, because you can activate her romance flag in Episode 3 and Episode 4 and you took her V Card and you open the JunkoSlave Path only with an active Katsumi Romance, too.

She did say that all the routes mentioned in that post were off the top of her head lol… tho I do wonder what “Not disclosed but hard to explain: Kiyomi, Phoebe, Chanel, Delilah” means, since you can agree to be Kiyomi’s sub… not sure tho

 

[Maviarab]

She did say that all the routes mentioned in that post were off the top of her head lol… tho I do wonder what “Not disclosed but hard to explain: Kiyomi, Phoebe, Chanel, Delilah” means, since you can agree to be Kiyomi’s sub… not sure tho

I think that comment is Tess keeping a few things close to her chest. And good for her. While it's nice to know who is and isn't going to be romanceable, and I get why people want to know, it's good to still have some surprises and unknowns in my opinion...otherwise, if you know everything...why even bother playing?

The opinion of people who will only ever play once, a very detailed and calculated path...then never explore anything else don't really matter to me, I couldn't care less about their opinion, the beauty of a VN like this is exploring all the paths, seeing all the content, romancing different LI's in different saves to see the differences. Otherwise it may as well be a KN. So I hope Tess doesn't reveal everything personally.

 

[Cirelc]

She did say that all the routes mentioned in that post were off the top of her head lol… tho I do wonder what “Not disclosed but hard to explain: Kiyomi, Phoebe, Chanel, Delilah” means, since you can agree to be Kiyomi’s sub… not sure tho

Kyiomi is bound to a honor code and she never lies. So probably you have to keep up her high standards. I could look for an 2year old post from Tess herself, but forgive me that i don't do that, because no idea if its still the truth.

Phoebe will be your Teacher and is involved with both DeCock and Karlssons. So if there will be a romance path that will be a rollercoaster.

Chanel no clue. Delilah was a confirmed LI 2y ago for the evil dom path, but things can change and lets not forget she is a DeKock... You have to fail the Gambit and ally with DeKock? And i guess your true sister would murder Delilah, if you romance her. (just speculations)

 

[desperatecub02]

why do they have guns are they going to kill anyone? i havent played it id love to to see if they shoot the slaves or get really annoyed