VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.2A Final] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[Dark Quean Olivia]

Accepted. But, nevertheless, the idea that Kitty is Alexander's "bastard" does not leave me until now..

I'll find out for you, mom made her my bitch now so I'll get her secrets out of her

 

[Jacowboy]

With the Elena stepping down being a future plan and not a done deal, it does make me wonder about the conditions of her actually leaving. While Olivia's victory in the Gambit is still open ended, there's no scenario where she doesn't get a seat on the Board. With her parentage now public amongst KG and DS executives, there is no reason to not make her a Board Member at the Welcome Party, so why don't they? If they need a Board vote, they would have done it before they offered, and they have offered, which she has accepted (you don't offer someone a job, they accept, and then vote if you're going to hire them) so there's no need to wait.

I have wondered if Elena's "step down" is the punishment Yvette warned her about on the pier, which Elena of course did not heed, and since she's being fired anyways, might as well cheat a second time and tell Olivia who her mother is. It is the classic corporate spin: no executive is ever fired, they merely "retire" or "step down to spend more time with their family". Either that or Elena, as representative of Team Olivia, has been free to cheat without retribution.

Nah, I reckon any punishment would be a lot more severe than forcing her to step down from the board... if anything it would be more of a punishment if Olivia was barred from becoming a board member.

And yes, Olivia's being tested too, in a less nefarious way than Kane, but it's very likely that her every move is also being observed and evaluated, like with Kane. It's very unlikely that she'll fail, because she's been established as being very smart and competent, plus her variables have to do with her morality (whether she's good or evil) and with her sub/dom inclination, but none of those variables have anything to do with whether she's capable of running the company or not, unlike Kane, who can be an absolute failure.

But still, for story purposes, she also has to be part of the gambit and be tested as well before she can ascend to power, even tho in the end she'll probably pass no matter what choices we make (unless she gets killed at some point of course).

 

[Stan5851]

I'll find out for you, mom made her my bitch now so I'll get her secrets out of her

Katie4Ever, re-login.

 

[Maviarab]

Accepted. But, nevertheless, the idea that Kitty is Alexander's "bastard" does not leave me until now..

Yeah you have me thinking now too Stan, like I said that wasn't in my original thoughts at all....but hmmm...still not sure why Yin Yue would ever deal with Alexander given she would know what he was like from Callista but..I guess who knows?

 

[YuNobi1]

(unless she gets killed at some point of course).

Yeah, outside of targeted player self-sabotage (a la everyone dies in Mass Effect 2), that's not going to happen. Tess has stated this game is a femdom fantasy fulfillment for her, and Olivia is effectively a self-insert... which is probably why her "trial" has been an absolute joke.

 

[Stan5851]

Yeah you have me thinking now too Stan, like I said that wasn't in my original thoughts at all....but hmmm...still not sure why Yin Yue would ever deal with Alexander given she would know what he was like from Callista but..I guess who knows?

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[Maviarab]

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Unfortunately, non of that brings us any closer to figuring out or guessing who Cynthia's second masked servant is though does it lol.

Yeah, outside of targeted player self-sabotage (a la everyone dies in Mass Effect 2), that's not going to happen.

Yes...it is.

Tess has stated, only 3 characters have survival plot armour. Everyone....everyone else can die. The only confirmed 100% plot armour character is Astrid. The other two are unknown at this point.

Given some of the world State Endings, it is a distinct possibility that Olivia may die. And Olivia is not a self insert, she already does that with her own character.

 

[Stan5851]

Anyway, the only thing left was to ask Tess if Alexander Karlsson had a relationship with an Asian girl whose last name was "Kuromiya", heh..

 

[YuNobi1]

Yes...it is.

Tess has stated, only 3 characters have survival plot armour. Everyone....everyone else can die. The only confirmed 100% plot armour character is Astrid. The other two are unknown at this point.

Given some of the world State Endings, it is a distinct possibility that Olivia may die. And Olivia is not a self insert, she already does that with her own character.

I swear, people must be allergic to actually reading what I write. I said that it's like Mass Effect 2: to say that Astrid and two others are the only ones guaranteed to survive is like saying Joker is the only one guaranteed to survive in ME2. Just like everyone including Shepard CAN die in ME2, so can everyone including Olivia die in this game. Do many players just naturally/blindly get the "worst ending", and call it their Canon playthrough? No. Is it easy to kill off Shepard? No, you basically have to intentionally make the correct series of choices to make it happen, likewise with Olivia. Kane also needs specific choices to kill, but it's a lot easier to accomplish, yet "blind players" will statistically stay in the middle: neither best nor worst endings, unless as a sheer probable outlier. Tess did not have any plans to put herself in the game (dev messages never count), she finally caved to the patrons who've been begging her for years to do so, thus Olivia was the original self-insert.

 

[Dark Quean Olivia]

Yeah, outside of targeted player self-sabotage (a la everyone dies in Mass Effect 2), that's not going to happen. Tess has stated this game is a femdom fantasy fulfillment for her, and Olivia is effectively a self-insert... which is probably why her "trial" has been an absolute joke.

Tess has stated, only 3 characters have survival plot armour. Everyone....everyone else can die. The only confirmed 100% plot armour character is Astrid. The other two are unknown at this point.

I swear, people must be allergic to actually reading what I write. I said that it's like Mass Effect 2: to say that Astrid and two others are the only ones guaranteed to survive is like saying Joker is the only one guaranteed to survive in ME2.

As a long time lurker here and new contributor, I think from my own perspective, I'm not entirely sure you even know and understand yourself what you write. You said, outside of player sabotage, that is not going to happen. Well, yes, it is. You think Tess is going to give us the option to self-sabotage almost 50 different characters with numerous decisions and choices? Little different to ME2 that only had a handful (and for the record, it's impossible in ME2 to kill everyone but Shep). Let me remind you of something:

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There is literally going to be an Island 4 Ark ending. If you think everyone is leaving the Joy Facility, I'm really not sure what to say to you.

 

[Mr. Chatty]

I swear, people must be allergic to actually reading what I write. I said that it's like Mass Effect 2: to say that Astrid and two others are the only ones guaranteed to survive is like saying Joker is the only one guaranteed to survive in ME2. Just like everyone including Shepard CAN die in ME2, so can everyone including Olivia die in this game. Do many players just naturally/blindly get the "worst ending", and call it their Canon playthrough? No. Is it easy to kill off Shepard? No, you basically have to intentionally make the correct series of choices to make it happen, likewise with Olivia. Kane also needs specific choices to kill, but it's a lot easier to accomplish, yet "blind players" will statistically stay in the middle: neither best nor worst endings, unless as a sheer probable outlier. Tess did not have any plans to put herself in the game (dev messages never count), she finally caved to the patrons who've been begging her for years to do so, thus Olivia was the original self-insert.

You are right but as you said these are blind fans, they can't take anything against their mistress, no matter how true it is.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

I swear, people must be allergic to actually reading what I write. I said that it's like Mass Effect 2: to say that Astrid and two others are the only ones guaranteed to survive is like saying Joker is the only one guaranteed to survive in ME2. Just like everyone including Shepard CAN die in ME2, so can everyone including Olivia die in this game. Do many players just naturally/blindly get the "worst ending", and call it their Canon playthrough? No. Is it easy to kill off Shepard? No, you basically have to intentionally make the correct series of choices to make it happen, likewise with Olivia. Kane also needs specific choices to kill, but it's a lot easier to accomplish, yet "blind players" will statistically stay in the middle: neither best nor worst endings, unless as a sheer probable outlier. Tess did not have any plans to put herself in the game (dev messages never count), she finally caved to the patrons who've been begging her for years to do so, thus Olivia was the original self-insert.

You think Tess who calls herself Grymm Gudina and whose in game character is similar to a certain goddess has Olivia as her self-insert? At this point, I don't know what to tell you.

 

[Sharpshooter890]

Tess did not have any plans to put herself in the game (dev messages never count), she finally caved to the patrons who've been begging her for years to do so, thus Olivia was the original self-insert.

Huh? Olivia has been there since ep.1, and it's Tess' first game, so how could she have patrons begging her for years before she released ep.1? It makes no sense.
Now her (Olivia) being a Mary Sue is a separate issue, one that was discussed before iirc, and I hope we will see the consequences of her being too weak/indecisive/cruel/uncompromising soon.

 

[Jacowboy]

Wait, her patrons begged her to self-insert?? wut

Also, wait, how is Olivia a Mary Sue??

Also also, wait, isn't Grymm Gudina just Veronica in disguise or something like that?

The fuck are you people talking about?

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Wait, her patrons begged her to selg-insert?? wut

Also, wait, how is Olivia a Mary Sue??

Also also, wait, isn't Grymm Gudina just Veronica in disguise or something like that?

The fuck are you people talking about?

You had four sisters to pick from and you picked the one sister that Grymm absolutely couldn't be

 

[Jacowboy]

You had four sisters to pick from and you picked the one sister that Grymm absolutely couldn't be

Well the point was more that the Grymm Gudina character isn't the dev's self-insert... but anyhoo, who was it then? I thought the two disguised women talking were Veronica and MC's mom? Shit I think I've already forgotten some of the details

 

[sgenter]

Anyway to delete the 8 Final Slot saves(saving your stats) carrying over from Episode 7?

I have used 5 and want to delete the first 4 if possible. Overwriting would be nice if offered when reaching the end of Ep 7. Or is that offered when the 8 Final Slots are full?

 

[Sharpshooter890]

but anyhoo, who was it then? I thought the two disguised women talking were Veronica and MC's mom?

Everything points to Grym Gudinna being Alessandra. She meets Gambit Queen in the temple.

 

[Jacowboy]

Anyway to delete the 8 Final Slot saves(saving your stats) carrying over from Episode 7?

I have used 5 and want to delete the first 4 if possible. Overwriting would be nice if offered when reaching the end of Ep 7. Or is that offered when the 8 Final Slots are full?

I believe there's a file "Karlssons.gambit.s1" located in the "persistent" folder in the renpy backup folder, but if you delete that it's possible you'll delete all of the carry over saves...

 

[Jacowboy]

Everything points to Grym Gudinna being Alessandra. She meets Gambit Queen in the temple.

huh... why would it be Alessandra tho? I mean as far as I remember it seemd like only Veronica was in contact with Callista... plus it's basically the same costume, kinda weird that two sisters would wear the same outfit to meet in secret with the same person... =/