VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.2A Final] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[Maviarab]

Are you trying to temp me, Mav? Lure me to the dark side? Hmph... Kwame's wife you say? No. No. No, I won't think about it... Even if I like my dark chocolate and caramel just as much as I like my redheads... No. Nope. Nuh Uh...

How bad would one have to be exactly?

The only keys are:
5 Evil Points (>= 5). All you need.
Dom (rank irelevent).
Not on Junko's romance path otherwise when the scene comes, it will switch to a scene with her instead. If on her path, nuke it either in the pool scene with Kitty/Chanel etc...or turn her down the morning after Dominique gifts you K7 and the new apartment.
Chapter 5 when you meet the 3 Karlsson Sisters (Juliette, Dominique and Veronica) in the pool, you MUST choose “I think I’m going to pick Dominique...”
If Dominique already your sponsor, she will ask you to speak to V. Don't....(If Dominique already your sponsor here...then you will lose her sponsorship btw)
Dom Kane meets privately with Dominique. You will have a conversation with her and you MUST choose “In her position, I think she shouldn’t worry so much about others...”
After that, Ch6 you will meet with Dom in the mines. After the 'Work Placement' you will speak further...this progresses that route.

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[motseer]

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The only keys are:
5 Evil Points (>= 5). All you need.
Dom (rank irelevent).
Not on Junko's romance path otherwise when the scene comes, it will switch to a scene with her instead. If on her path, nuke it either in the pool scene with Kitty/Chanel etc...or turn her down the morning after Dominique gifts you K7 and the new apartment.
Chapter 5 when you meet the 3 Karlsson Sisters (Juliette, Dominique and Veronica) in the pool, you MUST choose “I think I’m going to pick Dominique...”
If Dominique already your sponsor, she will ask you to speak to V. Don't....(If Dominique already your sponsor here...then you will lose her sponsorship btw)
Dom Kane meets privately with Dominique. You will have a conversation with her and you MUST choose “In her position, I think she shouldn’t worry so much about others...”
After that, Ch6 you will meet with Dom in the mines. After the 'Work Placement' you will speak further...this progresses that route.

Soooooo... If one wanted to try this out but not lose Dominique as a sponsor, he would need to get Juliette's or Veronica's sponsorship first? Asking for a friend...

 

[Maviarab]

Soooooo... If one wanted to try this out but not lose Dominique as a sponsor, he would need to get Juliette's or Veronica's sponsorship first? Asking for a friend...

From recollection and from my DarkDomi save sheet...get Veronica first. Should then get Dominique also later.

 

[Stan5851]

(Stan probably already read it) that there will be multiple 'similar' endings...

Alas, it sounds too good to be true. While I was translating and then double-checking errors and inconsistencies (as you know, English is not my first language) in my posts in this thread, I missed what was going on in Tess's discord, and now I see 180 new posts there, which I am now scrutinizing..

 

[w123t4]

Is it possible for kane to build up relationship with kiyomi without in the sub path or she is only available to seth?

 

[motseer]

From recollection and from my DarkDomi save sheet...get Veronica first. Should then get Dominique also later.

Yeah, I've gotten them in that order before but, later, decided Dominique first and Veronica second worked better for my GoodDom Kane. I'm sure I can figure out how to swap the order again... I'll take a look at what it takes to get the 5 bad boy points and then adding your outline... perhaps my friend will want to check it out... Hehe Jus' Sayin'

 

[Maviarab]

Is it possible for kane to build up relationship with kiyomi without in the sub path or she is only available for seth?

Yes you can...her path is going to be very long and complicated though and not easy to get. Very specific conditions will need to be met.

Yeah, I've gotten them in that order before but, later, decided Dominique first and Veronica second worked better for my GoodDom Kane. I'm sure I can figure out how to swap the order again... I'll take a look at what it takes to get the 5 bad boy points and then adding your outline... perhaps my friend will want to check it out... Hehe Jus' Sayin'

Honestly, getting 5 evil points up to Ch5 is incredibly simple. Easiest way is be an ass to Zach heh...but plenty of opportunities....just pick your flavour I guess like any good paragade run (one of the best ways is take Pat's deal...fuck her on the stairs...evil points a plenty there for you for no cost to anyone and you get a sex scene and in Pat's good graces...win/win). Once got them feel free to go all in on being good again...doesn't affect that route (yet at least).

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Im currently in my sentimental phase, so Im about reuniting Kane with his family. So my current targets are Olivia, Angelica, Alessandra (though I know I wont be able to get her without being a sub) and dom. I would like Juliette's fine ass too, but unforch the sis don't like her too much

 

[Maviarab]

Alessandra (though I know I wont be able to get her without being a sub)

Least is only a sexual sub...not a downtrodden abused plaything (though she does try...you can steer her to a more romantic approach though). Plus...you get Pat on that route too...and Alyssia...and god knows who else Alessa might tell lmaohahahaha

 

[Popata20]

A sub kane can be redeemed? (at the end of story he is neither sub neither slave)
Let's say Callista takes her away from the corporate world (to a distant part of the world)

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

A sub kane can be redeemed? (at the end of story he is neither sub neither slave)
Let's say Callista takes her away from the corporate world (to a distant part of the world)

If Kane is a sub by the end of the game, it's likely because the player wants Kane to be a sub no need for redemption.

Least is only a sexual sub...not a downtrodden abused plaything (though she does try...you can steer her to a more romantic approach though). Plus...you get Pat on that route too...and Alyssia...and god knows who else Alessa might tell lmaohahahaha

Pat's an opportunist at the end of the day, she'll go with the person who has the most power and Celeste's fine crazy ass is the only alessandra hookup I want. But yea I don't even want my Kane to be a secret sub. I want him bending people to his will.

 

[motseer]

Yes you can...her path is going to be very long and complicated though and not easy to get. Very specific conditions will need to be met.



Honestly, getting 5 evil points up to Ch5 is incredibly simple. Easiest way is be an ass to Zach heh...but plenty of opportunities....just pick your flavour I guess like any good paragade run (one of the best ways is take Pat's deal...fuck her on the stairs...evil points a plenty there for you for no cost to anyone and you get a sex scene and in Pat's good graces...win/win). Once got them feel free to go all in on being good again...doesn't affect that route (yet at least).

One last clarification, just to be sure, Dominique MUST be a bad girl for this scenario right?

 

[Popata20]

If Kane is a sub by the end of the game, it's likely because the player wants Kane to be a sub no need for redemption.


Pat's an opportunist at the end of the day, she'll go with the person who has the most power and Celeste's fine crazy ass is the only alessandra hookup I want. But yea I don't even want my Kane to be a secret sub. I want him bending people to his will.

Thank you for your answer. I thought there might be an ending where Callista helps her son. ( for Callista said: "Don't lose hope wherever you are , I will be there for you".)

 

[motseer]

Im currently in my sentimental phase, so Im about reuniting Kane with his family. So my current targets are Olivia, Angelica, Alessandra (though I know I wont be able to get her without being a sub) and dom. I would like Juliette's fine ass too, but unforch the sis don't like her too much

In the "family" sense I like the idea of pursuing Elena's dream family... hehe... that has nothing to do with Elena being one of the few seemingly available MILFs...

 

[Maviarab]

A sub kane can be redeemed? (at the end of story he is neither sub neither slave)
Let's say Callista takes her away from the corporate world (to a distant part of the world)

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One last clarification, just to be sure, Dominique MUST be a bad girl for this scenario right?

It's the conversation with her at the pool that puts her on this path yes. (this happens before the evil choice for her right before she talks to Cole)

 

[w123t4]

Yes you can...her path is going to be very long and complicated though and not easy to get. Very specific conditions will need to be met.

May I ask was it already started or still not implant in the game yet?

 

[Maviarab]

May I ask was it already started or still not implant in the game yet?

I would guess...it has already started yes....you just don't know it has. For now...just don't have negative points with her. Tess also states this regarding her path:

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The above comment was spoilered out in Discord btw...so it's massively relevent. I can tell you right now...Kiyomi has no specific flags related to any Kane romance unless other specific flags for her previously will be reused...*shrugs*...

 

[Popata20]

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It's the conversation with her at the pool that puts her on this path yes. (this happens before the evil choice for her right before she talks to Cole)

You can safely be called an expert on the Karlsson gambit. (your post about masks is a masterpiece without a doubt) Thank you

 

[Stan5851]

Least is only a sexual sub...not a downtrodden abused plaything (though she does try...you can steer her to a more romantic approach though). Plus...you get Pat on that route too...and Alyssia...and god knows who else Alessa might tell lmaohahahaha

I don't know, when I ran this scene (in the Sancho gallery), I didn't see anything sexual about Kane eating dog food off the floor that someone (Alessa or Alyssa) had peed in...I guess I was looking in the wrong place...I just made sure that this kind of femdom is just as unacceptable to me as what is considered more hardcore (K4 and below)...Although, of course, everyone is different and maybe Miles will see it differently.

 

[Maviarab]

I don't know, when I ran this scene (in the Sancho gallery), I didn't see anything sexual about Kane eating dog food off the floor that someone (Alessa or Alyssa) had peed in...I guess I was looking in the wrong place...I just made sure that this kind of femdom is just as unacceptable to me as what is considered more hardcore (K4 and below)...Although, of course, everyone is different and maybe Miles will see it differently.

Then you saw the wrong scene. Once on the SS path and you are alone with Alessa (the SS interactions) there 2 choices for every 'scene'...(both actually Alessa choices...not Kane's)..she can be cruel...or nicer (the latter giving love points). I'm pretty sure the dog food scene with Alyssa(?) also has a variant from memory.

You can safely be called an expert on the Karlsson gambit. (your post about masks is a masterpiece without a doubt) Thank you

Thank you for the kind words.

I'm not infallible though and do forget stuff and ocassionally, do get something wrong but I try to be as factual and knowledgeable as possible, on both paths (as there is a lot of info/lore/backstory available on the SubPath you do not find out on the domPath)...and vice-versa.

Silver_Crow117, our resident Delilah lover is the expert around here on the SubPath though, I play those routes purely for the afformentioned reasons alone but I'll nearly always remit myself to his knowledge of the SubPath (and it's newer upcoming branches) as they are paths I honestly have zero interest in (as a player).