VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.2B Final] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[Stan5851]

Why Romance any of the characters when You can Dominate them

I think, in the realities of KG, this question should be “Why would we, elite sadistic bitches, romance KaneSub when we can just dominate him?"

With KaneDom dominance over the female characters, as you can probably guess, it's not all that obvious...And unless you count the Wpod slave girls, who are formally subordinate to KaneDom, but have completely different masters (and some female JF staff with the same situation), everything about the key important LI so far looks like a more or less equal relationship.

So, you're ahead of us. You have KaneSub crawling on the floor and may soon be able to participate in slave competitions in speedy movement on 4 limbs (hehe), while our upright KaneDom is still far from the situation when his sub females (really submissive, not because they were ordered so from above) will crawl around him 24/7 and fulfill all his commands and desires.

 

[Stan5851]

Not only is it not a given, but until now I thought it was impossible .

Why is that impossible? Juliette can gently and romantically throw you into a cage of lions or, smiling sweetly and sighing languidly, order her slave to throw Kane overboard on a yacht..

 

[Bloker997]

Don’t know why… but somehow I forgot to mention this about Juliette and sub Kane

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So Alessa solo wont romance dom Kane, but will together with Celeste?

 

[Maviarab]

Not only is it not a given, but until now I thought it was impossible .

Again..no that isn't a given (and would be amazed if Tess implements it). I was referring to the bulk of her post....that in the world of KG, anyone should take it it as a given that everyone is looking out for number one.

So Alessa solo wont romance dom Kane, but will together with Celeste?

Celeste/Alessa is classed as 'other romance'...ie...it's not a romance. You're all fuckbudies. Alessa 'will' romance a DomKane that is submissive sexually...known as the SecretSub Path. If you do not go down the SS path with her then no, she will not romance an assertive Kane, only SubKane on the SubPath which is a 'Sub' Romance because has to always be in control/charge. it's her personality...like Jules will not romance a good Kane, Delilah will not romance a good characters, Junko won't romance evil etc.

 

[Silver_Crow117]

Why is that impossible? Juliette can gently and romantically throw you into a cage of lions or, smiling sweetly and sighing languidly, order her slave to throw Kane overboard on a yacht..

It’s not impossible my friend! She went more in depth with it!

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[MagicMan753]

So Alessa solo wont romance dom Kane, but will together with Celeste?

The combo harem paths like alessa and celeste and others won't really be a romance, it will be more sexual, so Alessa won't romance qunless you are secret sub.

 

[PickerLewd]

Why is that impossible? Juliette can gently and romantically throw you into a cage of lions or, smiling sweetly and sighing languidly, order her slave to throw Kane overboard on a yacht..

That doesn't sound very romantic .

I am really surprised, I thought a romance with the beautiful snake was impossible, I mean I thought Sub Kane would end up dead or as a dog near Jules and a Dom Kane would execute her or treat her very badly, far from romantic.

 

[Maviarab]

Why is that impossible? Juliette can gently and romantically throw you into a cage of lions or, smiling sweetly and sighing languidly, order her slave to throw Kane overboard on a yacht..

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Also..as much as love Tess, she needs to start sticking to her words. She was once adamant, and posted publically that Jules would only ever romance evil DomKane...now she will romance SubKane too? *sighs*...hard to keep track of where she actually is and what she is planning at times.

 

[PickerLewd]

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Also..as much as love Tess, she needs to start sticking to her words. She was once adamant, and posted publically that Jules would only ever romance evil DomKane...now she will romance SubKane too? *sighs*...hard to keep track of where she actually is and what she is planning at times.

Jules' ugly throne always looked like a giant cockroach to me .

 

[Maviarab]

Jules' ugly throne always looked like a giant cockroach to me .

Not sure that's exactly 'her throne'...that's a scene from the SubPath (IIRC) with Olivia and some, very unfortunate slaves....I do get what you mean though.

 

[Igetby]

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Also..as much as love Tess, she needs to start sticking to her words. She was once adamant, and posted publically that Jules would only ever romance evil DomKane...now she will romance SubKane too? *sighs*...hard to keep track of where she actually is and what she is planning at times.

Juliette is so hot. Supreme evil here I come.

 

[Igetby]

The combo harem paths like alessa and celeste and others won't really be a romance, it will be more sexual, so Alessa won't romance qunless you are secret sub.

Secret sub is her romance route. That suprises me.

 

[Silver_Crow117]

That doesn't sound very romantic .

I am really surprised, I thought a romance with the beautiful snake was impossible, I mean I thought Sub Kane would end up dead or as a dog near Jules and a Dom Kane would execute her or treat her very badly, far from romantic.

There’s different routes for Sub Lane with Juliette… one of being a slave, Servant and RO

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[Stan5851]

She was once adamant, and posted publically that Jules would only ever romance evil DomKane...now she will romance SubKane too? *sighs*...hard to keep track of where she actually is and what she is planning at times.

Did she write that? Or did I miss something? As far as I understood from what she said, Juliette's narrative will change (whatever that means) as a result of "demonflag" cancellation, but whether she will leave some “love” route of Jules and Evil KaneDom, who didn't get the “demonflag” but had a relationship with her, she didn't answer either...All in all, it's a plot trap Tess has driven herself into by deciding to punish the inadequacies among her patrons...And there's no way out of this trap yet, Tess can't just change neither Jules' character nor her preferences.(imo)

 

[Maviarab]

Did she write that? Or did I miss something? As far as I understood from what she said, Juliette's narrative will change (whatever that means) as a result of "demonflag" cancellation, but whether she will leave some “love” route of Jules and Evil KaneDom, who didn't get the “demonflag” but had a relationship with her, she didn't answer either...All in all, it's a plot trap Tess has driven herself into by deciding to punish the inadequacies among her patrons...And there's no way out of this trap yet, Tess can't just change neither Jules' character nor her preferences.(imo)

I'm sure you have the screenshot yourself somewhere...all my details are directly copied from Discord 6 months(?) ago and just before 8.Pt1Test.

Originally, Jules was an EvilDomKane romance only, there was no romance route for any Sub or Good Kane.

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Only thing I've changed since copied all this is changing Angelica from T2 to T1, otherwise all the above was correct as of the last update.

 

[Stan5851]

There’s different routes for Sub Lane with Juliette… one of being a slave, Servant and RO

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What does RO mean? Read only?

 

[Stan5851]

Originally, Jules was an EvilDomKane romance only, there was no romance route for any Sub or Good Kane.

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That's the way it is. And as far as I can tell, nothing much has changed... A "romance" between good DomKane and Juliette still has no chance. As for Sub Kane, I still don't know what "RO" is, but from what Silver wrote above, it also doesn't sound like a "romance" between Jules and Kane, but more like a Master and trusted slave relationship. Unfortunately, this time I don't have any screenshots that might clarify the situation with the relationship between EvilDom Kane and Juliette...Tess is stubbornly silent, we'll see if the upcoming pt2 will answer these questions. If not, I'll ask her again.

 

[Silver_Crow117]

What does RO mean? Read only?

Romance option

 

[Maviarab]

That's the way it is. And as far as I can tell, nothing much has changed... A "romance" between good DomKane and Juliette still has no chance. As for Sub Kane, I still don't know what "RO" is, but from what Silver wrote above, it also doesn't sound like a "romance" between Jules and Kane, but more like a Master and trusted slave relationship. Unfortunately, this time I don't have any screenshots that might clarify the situation with the relationship between EvilDom Kane and Juliette...Tess is stubbornly silent, we'll see if the upcoming pt2 will answer these questions. If not, I'll ask her again.

Well you have to seperate Kane being evil and the demon path. Kane can still be evil and the romance need not change at all, just no flag anymore, I imagine going forward, much like triggering DarkDom's romance path, it will just be set at a certain evil points instead (as it already is somewhat anyway). It just won' be to the extreme that Tess may have been originally planning.

As for what Silver posted, it certainly looks like Jules now has a SubRomance path....as does Delilah now also I believe (could be wrong there, Silver could confirm though), I'd just like to know if both confirmed, are they also on World State B, as every other 'SubRomance' is.

The only concern there (and no this is not a Dom/Sub argument) is that elevating Angelica to T1 is not that much extra work. The romance path already existed/was planned out. Giving both Jules and Delilah an 'extra' new romance path (for subs) is quite a lot of extra work Tess never envisioned doing. How that will work out remains to be seen.

However, the flipside to this is that, as Tess balances the two sides very well, it will mean more dom content also.

 

[Stan5851]

Romance option

I fear that for one of the participants in this "RO", the ending will be dire. A cage of lions, sharks or lava. Juliette is a sociopath and likes to kill slaves and slave girls...Although, maybe KaneSub can help drag the corpses away after her "amusements"..as an option.

Anyway, so far this RO looks very strange and not logical. And if Tess changes Jules character, which has been canon since the beginning of the game, that would be a weak act on her part. I'll say right off the bat, I'm not following Juliette (other than a duty save to just be aware of her content), but any change of preference for a key character at a stage when the game is already in full swing is not a good move. (imo)