VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.31 FinalA2] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[kinkyshin]

That doesn’t explain why Callista wants Olivia to win the gambit instead of her own son. She only says that it will help Kane. The only two people who have told him he can’t take the company are Alessandra and Kitty, but I think Kitty has her own agenda for him to take the company. I believe she is still loyal to Alexander, even after his death, and wants him to be the next Alessandra.

Bro... Kane and Olivia aren't competing... Kane cannot 'win' the Gambit.

Olivia, Juliette, and Dominique are competing to 'win'... Kane is not.

Kane's testing has nothing to do with him winning the Gambit or not. Only what happens after the Gambit is successful (if it is).

 

[The_Man_With_No_Name]

Bro... Kane and Olivia aren't competing... Kane cannot 'win' the Gambit.

Olivia, Juliette, and Dominique are competing to 'win'... Kane is not.

Kane's testing has nothing to do with him winning the Gambit or not. Only what happens after the Gambit is successful (if it is).

If he performs well in his program he may control the company as the senior partner of the winning daughter, or share power with the winning daughter, or the winning daughter is in charge and Kane plays second fiddle, or Kane is just a sperm donor for the winning daughter.

Ultimately what Callista wants is whatever the best outcome for Kane is that is realistically achievable. She thinks Olivia being the winning daughter is optimal because of her history with Kane.

 

[Stan5851]

Bro... Kane and Olivia aren't competing... Kane cannot 'win' the Gambit.

Olivia, Juliette, and Dominique are competing to 'win'... Kane is not.

Kane's testing has nothing to do with him winning the Gambit or not. Only what happens after the Gambit is successful (if it is).

Nope.

 

[The_Man_With_No_Name]

Bro... Kane and Olivia aren't competing... Kane cannot 'win' the Gambit.

Olivia, Juliette, and Dominique are competing to 'win'... Kane is not.

Kane's testing has nothing to do with him winning the Gambit or not. Only what happens after the Gambit is successful (if it is).

Nope.

A poor phrasing. He is involved in the Gambit but obviously he isn't in the part of the competition to pair up with himself

 

[zip2000]

No, Kane is part of the gambit. If he were nothing but a sperm donor, they could have him drugged and take his sperm from prison and be done with him. Also, he has 2 parents who are founding members of the company, which also gives him the right to take control of the company.

 

[The_Man_With_No_Name]

No, Kane is part of the gambit. If he were nothing but a sperm donor, they could have him drugged and take his sperm from prison and be done with him. Also, he has 2 parents who are founding members of the company, which also gives him the right to take control of the company.

Yep.

 

[Maviarab]

A few questions:

1. Where is Kane keeping the bracelet? He has changed rooms three times since he arrived. First, he had it in the room he shares with Kwame (K5). Kwame knows about it, which could give him leverage to blackmail Kane if, of course, he knows about the bracelet.
2. Or did Kane move to room K6 by himself, then to Olivia's house (K7 or K8), and later to a flat (K9)?
3. Also, Alexander Karlsson and all of his children are bright and intelligent. Why was he so opposed to Callista having a child? As you probably noticed, Kane doesn’t pick up on what people say, especially when Elena mentions that both of his parents lived in this room until Olivia tells him. There was only one exception when Veronica called Callista is genius. That he picked up the word IS
4. So, is Kane not even particularly bright?
5. Alessandra is a mathematical genius.
6. Dominique has leadership charisma.
7. Veronica is a genius.
8. Juliette is great at sales and marketing.
9. Olivia is an acting genius.

So, what does Kane have that makes him outstanding, other than his mother's genes? Even Callista has said she wants Olivia to win Gambit, which only helps Kane. So even his mother thinks he does not have it to take the company or should be a slave to them.

1. Play again..and pay...more...attention....

1. No bracelet. It went back to Nadia....
2. Kane never 'moved' to Olivia's house, he spent one night there...
3. I''m not sure if just fucking trolling or completely blind at this point, skipping forward for teh loods.
4. Debateable...
5-8. Unlikely but bright enough to do their respective jobs...not even sure what point you're trying to make here.
9. Stated in the universe yes...as above...what is your point exactly?

Now do you actually have any questions that are not already perfectly answered within the story?

 

[The_Man_With_No_Name]

1. Play again..and pay...more...attention....

1. No bracelet. It went back to Nadia....
2. Kane never 'moved' to Olivia's house, he spent one night there...
3. I''m not sure if just fucking trolling or completely blind at this point, skipping forward for teh loods.
4. Debateable...
5-8. Unlikely but bright enough to do their respective jobs...not even sure what point you're trying to make here.
9. Stated in the universe yes...as above...what is your point exactly?

Now do you actually have any questions that are not already perfectly answered within the story?

I see someone gave the Dark Lord decaf today so he picked the warpath

 

[kinkyshin]

No, Kane is part of the gambit. If he were nothing but a sperm donor, they could have him drugged and take his sperm from prison and be done with him. Also, he has 2 parents who are founding members of the company, which also gives him the right to take control of the company.

I didn't say he wasn't part of the Gambit. I said he couldn't 'win' in the sense that the girls can and isn't competing with them in that sense. And, if he fails his tests, then he WILL be essentially nothing but a sperm donor (assuming one of the girls wins the Gambit). And funny you say that, because Yvette says that Juliette would do exactly what you just said if she discovers the true purpose of the Gambit.

Nope.

How do you figure?

There's essentially 2 scenes that discuss what the Gambit is.

Here's one:

Spoiler: Juliette with Gary

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Here's the other, more important one:

Spoiler: Veronica finally explains the gambit to Elena and Yvette

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I really don't see how you can read these two scenes and then tell me that I'm wrong unless your translation program isn't functioning properly.

 

[Stan5851]

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I didn't say he wasn't part of the Gambit. I said he couldn't 'win' in the sense that the girls can and isn't competing with them in that sense. And, if he fails his tests, then he WILL be essentially nothing but a sperm donor (assuming one of the girls wins the Gambit). And funny you say that, because Yvette says that Juliette would do exactly what you just said if she discovers the true purpose of the Gambit.



How do you figure?

There's essentially 2 scenes that discuss what the Gambit is.

Here's one:

Spoiler: Juliette with Gary

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Here's the other, more important one:

Spoiler: Veronica finally explains the gambit to Elena and Yvette

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I really don't see how you can read these two scenes and then tell me that I'm wrong unless your translation program isn't functioning properly.

I don't need your wall of text from the game, I'll create a separate post where I explain everything.

 

[Stan5851]

No, Kane is part of the gambit. If he were nothing but a sperm donor, they could have him drugged and take his sperm from prison and be done with him. Also, he has 2 parents who are founding members of the company, which also gives him the right to take control of the company.

That's exactly right.

 

[kinkyshin]

That's exactly right.

Nope.

 

[BurgRoyce]

By the way stick around and meme a little if you want, just don't get too far off topic. Keep the mods at bay and all that.

IMO, this is one of these times where you don't need to have a positive opinion about an artist or creator, and at the same time, appreciate his/her creation.

And as far as I'm concerned, we all better get over this and return to in-game topics. Like that infamous seventh board member , or that unexplained Callista's misscariage of "Luke". And how Seth fits into that whole thing

 

[The_Man_With_No_Name]

IMO, this is one of these times where you don't need to have a positive opinion about an artist or creator, and at the same time, appreciate his/her creation.

And as far as I'm concerned, we all better get over this and return to in-game topics. Like that infamous seventh board member , or that unexplained Callista's misscariage of "Luke". And how Seth fits into that whole thing

Oh sorry. That wasn't toward you, it was for the guy above me. I was just using your quote.

But yeah agreed. Good point there.

 

[Stan5851]

IMO, this is one of these times where you don't need to have a positive opinion about an artist or creator, and at the same time, appreciate his/her creation.

Exactly, only not everyone seems to realize this, having decided in advance to label everyone here as "beta nitpicker"... A dubious way to get the game discussion back to the normalcy that was here until yesterday.

And as far as I'm concerned, we all better get over this and return to in-game topics. Like that infamous seventh board member , or that unexplained Callista's misscariage of "Luke". And how Seth fits into that whole thing

We've discussed this many times, but you're right, there's still no clarity. As for the 7th board member, I'm still betting it's Astrid.

 

[Stan5851]

Regarding Kane and Gambit

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So I don't think we all have that much disagreement on this issue here. We all recognize that Kane is an important part of the Gambit, we all realize that someone from Karlsson will definitely win the Gambit (along with Kane), but as we all know, “the devil is in the details”.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Holy crap, people really turned on Tess :x. Only thing that could make me turn on her is her not completing the game.

We've discussed this many times, but you're right, there's still no clarity. As for the 7th board member, I'm still betting it's Astrid.

I can't guarantee you most things, but I can absolutely guarantee you that the 7th board member is not Astrid. Not only does she want nothing to do with her father and his stupid games, but she's been in cryo sleep for a long time, so she wouldn't be an effective member even if she wanted to.

 

[Stan5851]

I can't guarantee you most things, but I can absolutely guarantee you that the 7th board member is not Astrid. Not only does she want nothing to do with her father and his stupid games, but she's been in cryo sleep for a long time, so she wouldn't be an effective member even if she wanted to.

Astrid was in cryosleep for a little over two months, and that's not long enough to matter.

2 Months Before Game Day 01	Alexander's death made public
Kane starts 5 Year prison sentence
Astrid Karlsson enters cryosleep

Besides, we still don't know exactly how she rebelled against Alexander's evil. It is unlikely that her rebellion consisted of throwing stuffed toys at the walls of the "pink girlish's room.” It is more likely that Alexander suffered some tangible damage from her, enough to decide to massacre her in such an elaborate diabolical way by infecting her with a disease.

So I suppose Astrid could have remained the 7th member of the Board, but not to support the alien immoral decisions of some Jules or Alessa, but to be better positioned to stand up to Alexander's evil.

And who do you think is the 7th member of the Board - Cole? As I recall, we discussed him a lot too and sort of came to an unspoken consensus that he couldn't be the seventh member.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Astrid was in cryosleep for a little over two months, and that's not long enough to matter.

2 Months Before Game Day 01	Alexander's death made public
Kane starts 5 Year prison sentence
Astrid Karlsson enters cryosleep

Besides, we still don't know exactly how she rebelled against Alexander's evil. It is unlikely that her rebellion consisted of throwing stuffed toys at the walls of the "pink girlish's room.” It is more likely that Alexander suffered some tangible damage from her, enough to decide to massacre her in such an elaborate diabolical way by infecting her with a disease.

So I suppose Astrid could have remained the 7th member of the Board, but not to support the alien immoral decisions of some Jules or Alessa, but to be better positioned to stand up to Alexander's evil.

And who do you think is the 7th member of the Board - Cole? As I recall, we discussed him a lot too and sort of came to an unspoken consensus that he couldn't be the seventh member.

If I had to guess how she rebelled, I'd say she told her father fuck the gambit, Im not playing, Im not participating in no way whatsoever, I won't work for your dumb-assed company, etc.
As for the 7th member, barring a late character reveal, Alexander's surviving sister is the only person that currently makes sense.

 

[Stan5851]

As for the 7th member, barring a late character reveal, Alexander's surviving sister is the only person that currently makes sense.

Sounds reasonable.