VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.31 FinalA2] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[Stan5851]

I still can't get over the bug over why good olivia has to speak like that with kane that he is not eligible to enter into this room.

No one can. I wrote about it here, mentioning Silver_Crow117 and PickerLewd in my post, who, apparently, are Tess's patrons, but there was no response from them. Well, at least we did everything we could...and " I wash my hands of this". At the same time, note that this celebration of idiocy performed by the Good Liv continued, but this time later, in the Throne room...

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And here, I can’t help but ask! What the hell are you talking about?! For this event to kick off, you have to be a demoness with a killing spree under your belt, and you're canon good Olivia!

Alright, let’s assume Liv still wanted to get back at Jack, even while being good..But that room with her and Alessa only opens if she’s an ultra evil demoness….Where's the logic, Tess? It's either not here or it's female, which seems to be the same thing.

 

[harsha_26]

I got banned for being one remember

(Edit: I wonder how many times she used the word 'bit' in this release?)

And also the word "err..". She is using this word since many updates for multiple characters. I kind of understand if one character uses this word. But how logical to use this for almost all characters?

She used this word in discord whenever she involves in conversations.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

No one can. I wrote about it here, mentioning Silver_Crow117 and PickerLewd in my post, who, apparently, are Tess's patrons, but there was no response from them. Well, at least we did everything we could...and " I wash my hands of this". At the same time, note that this celebration of idiocy performed by the Good Liv continued, but this time later, in the Throne room...

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And here, I can’t help but ask! What the hell are you talking about?! For this event to kick off, you have to be a demoness with a killing spree under your belt, and you're canon good Olivia!

Alright, let’s assume Liv still wanted to get back at Jack, even while being good..But that room with her and Alessa only opens if she’s an ultra evil demoness….Where's the logic, Tess? It's either not here or it's female, which seems to be the same thing.

Is it just me or is there a difference between the way that good liv and evil liv tells him he cant get into the room meaning that she did that on purpose

 

[Rowszix]

No one can. I wrote about it here, mentioning Silver_Crow117 and PickerLewd in my post, who, apparently, are Tess's patrons, but there was no response from them. Well, at least we did everything we could...and " I wash my hands of this". At the same time, note that this celebration of idiocy performed by the Good Liv continued, but this time later, in the Throne room...

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And here, I can’t help but ask! What the hell are you talking about?! For this event to kick off, you have to be a demoness with a killing spree under your belt, and you're canon good Olivia!

Alright, let’s assume Liv still wanted to get back at Jack, even while being good..But that room with her and Alessa only opens if she’s an ultra evil demoness….Where's the logic, Tess? It's either not here or it's female, which seems to be the same thing.

Holy, completly overlooked that this also play out in the throne scene too ... yeah that happening for good Olivia seems strange. But maybe this actually brings her more in line with good Olivia in sub route. Because there she is also pretty mean and doesn't act different then evil Olivia for the most time. Biggest difference is she doesnt like killing people and is nicer to Kane in the beginning. But she definetly enjoys humiliating and torturing the slaves, not to the same extent as her evil version but still.

Edit: Haha, maybe that is the reason why Astrid and Yvette are not sure about letting Olivia join the revolution, even if she is good. Maybe she just acts like the other sisters off screen all the time .

 

[MagicMan753]

Mav! Sorry to burst your bubble, but the grammar throughout the entire story is... pretty bad. I'll give you this, though; the grammar in that screenshot is horrendously terrible. They could definitely benefit from the input of a good grammar Nazi. Jus' Sayin'

The grammar is only going to get worse from here on out. On top of that, there may be some continuity errors in renders or sentences that don't match up.
I used to go through and sends tons of errors, started in ep.8(sub side only but was working through other side), and spent days catching stuff, I wasn't perfect, but better than whatever she puts out sometimes. I was in the middle of doing some of the dom side for earlier parts of ep.8, before the ban, so that stuff Will never get fixed.

I think I was one of the only ones who actually cared to help with grammar and errors, now the other people still there probably don't care to help in that stuff as much.
I know I am going to be personally annoyed playing now, seeing this stuff and the errors, but I just have to push on and try to ignore this type of stuff now, cause I can't help fix it now.

 

[Stan5851]

Is it just me or is there a difference between the way that good liv and evil liv tells him he cant get into the room meaning that she did that on purpose

I just checked it... and there is no difference between Good Liv's refusal and Evil Liv's. The dialogues are the same. By the way, it wasn't even necessary to check, because before this there is a check for the state of certain flags, and if the check fails, the dialogue is the same.

And the wording of the refusal itself sounds as hypocritical as possible, because if we assume that this is not nonsense or an error in the dialogue, then Olivia may be hinting that she and Kane do not have a romance, which is indicated by the goldilockdom flag (which we get in the pool scene in 0.8.1), but that's not true, and in almost all of my saves (both good and evil), this romantic flag is active.

Well, let's try to figure it out and look for the logic in it (spoiler: there still isn't any).

Conditions for triggering the scene with Alessa and Liv's VIP room:
goldilocksdom=True and demonessdompath=True or goldilocksdom=True and klmistressdompath=True

Before we continue, take a look at these walkthrough details (season 1):

As we can see, the conditions for obtaining the k1mistressdompath flag differ from those for demonesses, so formally, Olivia may not be a demoness, but she can still lead K1 and kill people of the corresponding rank.

But in fact, this rare k1mistressdompath flag does not appear anywhere else in the game; I checked every official walkthrough using a quick keyword search. Whereas the demoness flag is much more widespread.

But in any case, even if your Evil Liv is not a demoness, and you have clearly calculated and made it so that she “only” cold-bloodedly killed a person and became the head of the K1 department, it still doesn't make her a good and fluffy sheep, and it's easy to assume that behind the scenes she actively killed those who fell under her care, as Mercy, the head of K1, did (and still does).

So, even if you calculated everything in advance and by the time of the key choice (the murder of the old man from the wastelands) in K1, Olivia had, say, 6 sisgood pts and 14 sisevil pts (which guarantees her not getting the demonic flag, but getting K1mistress), she still remains very evil.

Now let's return to why there is still no logic in Olivia's refusal. Such a response makes sense only if Olivia has either a demoness flag or k1mistressdompath, but Kane refused to start a romantic relationship with her (i.e., the flag goldilockdom=False).

However, in the case where Liv is good or even evil (but not a demoness or K1mistress), such a response simply makes no sense at all.

In fact, an evil Olivia who does not meet the conditions of the VIP scene should have said something like,

“I thought about inviting you somewhere... but I changed my mind. You showed a special interest in me, but you didn't work hard enough to turn me into a complete evil bitch who kills innocent people. So I'm just evil, and Alessia and I will have fun without you, lol".

The most difficult and unpleasant thing awaits the Good Liv. I have no idea what she should have said here.

According to logic,(which Tess threw out the window), this VIP scene with Alessa and Liv on the GoodDom route shouldn't have happened at all, but! if Liv's refusal was made solely (by Tess) to hint to the players that they are missing some Dom content, then the method chosen was not the best.

And this will only fuel speculation about whether "GoodOlivia" is really as good as she seems, or whether behind the scenes our agent Olivia is cosplaying Mercy and Jules in one person.

 

[motseer]

The grammar is only going to get worse from here on out. On top of that, there may be some continuity errors in renders or sentences that don't match up.
I used to go through and sends tons of errors, started in ep.8(sub side only but was working through other side), and spent days catching stuff, I wasn't perfect, but better than whatever she puts out sometimes. I was in the middle of doing some of the dom side for earlier parts of ep.8, before the ban, so that stuff Will never get fixed.

I think I was one of the only ones who actually cared to help with grammar and errors, now the other people still there probably don't care to help in that stuff as much.
I know I am going to be personally annoyed playing now, seeing this stuff and the errors, but I just have to push on and try to ignore this type of stuff now, cause I can't help fix it now.

Well, all I know to say is... That sucks. Hehe, you would think such an elegant person would insist on elegant sentences. Am I right? Evidently, there's just no accounting for taste, or lack thereof.

Peace to you, fellow grammar Nazi

 

[Rowszix]

I just checked it... and there is no difference between Good Liv's refusal and Evil Liv's. The dialogues are the same. By the way, it wasn't even necessary to check, because before this there is a check for the state of certain flags, and if the check fails, the dialogue is the same.
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And the wording of the refusal itself sounds as hypocritical as possible, because if we assume that this is not nonsense or an error in the dialogue, then Olivia may be hinting that she and Kane do not have a romance, which is indicated by the goldilockdom flag (which we get in the pool scene in 0.8.1), but that's not true, and in almost all of my saves (both good and evil), this romantic flag is active.

Well, let's try to figure it out and look for the logic in it (spoiler: there still isn't any).
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Conditions for triggering the scene with Alessa and Liv's VIP room:
goldilocksdom=True and demonessdompath=True or goldilocksdom=True and klmistressdompath=True

Before we continue, take a look at these walkthrough details (season 1):
View attachment 5589973
As we can see, the conditions for obtaining the k1mistressdompath flag differ from those for demonesses, so formally, Olivia may not be a demoness, but she can still lead K1 and kill people of the corresponding rank.

But in fact, this rare k1mistressdompath flag does not appear anywhere else in the game; I checked every official walkthrough using a quick keyword search. Whereas the demoness flag is much more widespread.

But in any case, even if your Evil Liv is not a demoness, and you have clearly calculated and made it so that she “only” cold-bloodedly killed a person and became the head of the K1 department, it still doesn't make her a good and fluffy sheep, and it's easy to assume that behind the scenes she actively killed those who fell under her care, as Mercy, the head of K1, did (and still does).

So, even if you calculated everything in advance and by the time of the key choice (the murder of the old man from the wastelands) in K1, Olivia had, say, 6 sisgood pts and 14 sisevil pts (which guarantees her not getting the demonic flag, but getting K1mistress), she still remains very evil.

Now let's return to why there is still no logic in Olivia's refusal. Such a response makes sense only if Olivia has either a demoness flag or k1mistressdompath, but Kane refused to start a romantic relationship with her (i.e., the flag goldilockdom=False).

However, in the case where Liv is good or even evil (but not a demoness or K1mistress), such a response simply makes no sense at all.

In fact, an evil Olivia who does not meet the conditions of the VIP scene should have said something like,

“I thought about inviting you somewhere... but I changed my mind. You showed a special interest in me, but you didn't work hard enough to turn me into a complete evil bitch who kills innocent people. So I'm just evil, and Alessia and I will have fun without you, lol".

The most difficult and unpleasant thing awaits the Good Liv. I have no idea what she should have said here.

According to logic,(which Tess threw out the window), this VIP scene with Alessa and Liv on the GoodDom route shouldn't have happened at all, but! if Liv's refusal was made solely (by Tess) to hint to the players that they are missing some Dom content, then the method chosen was not the best.

And this will only fuel speculation about whether "GoodOlivia" is really as good as she seems, or whether behind the scenes our agent Olivia is cosplaying Mercy and Jules in one person.

So best scenario: Olivia wants to protect Kane from making a decision that punishes his innocent best friend. And maybe even wants to protect him from knowing about how he got involved into the whole thing, so he doesnt act out and stays focused.
Worst case scenario: Good Olivia just isnt good and wants to have fun punishing Jake and doesnt want Kane to see it.

Wildcard scenario: Good Olivia doesnt want anybody else to get involved and protects Jake here on her own?

Other ideas?

 

[Stan5851]

So best scenario: Olivia wants to protect Kane from making a decision that punishes his innocent best friend. And maybe even wants to protect him from knowing about how he got involved into the whole thing, so he doesnt act out and stays focused.
Worst case scenario: Good Olivia just isnt good and wants to have fun punishing Jake and doesnt want Kane to see it.

Wildcard scenario: Good Olivia doesnt want anybody else to get involved and protects Jake here on her own?

Other ideas?

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[Rowszix]

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[PickerLewd]

So based on the in game outro. The dev is getting married now? I hope she still has time to continue work on this game. Do you think Tess will be dominant to her husband or a sub in bed? Maybe she can have him do all the house chores to free up more time for game development?

Finally, someone is asking interesting questions !

No one can. I wrote about it here, mentioning @Silver_Crow117 and @PickerLewd in my post, who, apparently, are Tess's patrons, but there was no response from them.

What about me? It wasn't me. I'm just sharing the news, I'm innocent ! Talk to Anais or Silver .

 

[harsha_26]

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Olivia can be what is based on player but upto some limits (not like Kane because she is not the main MC). So, she can be more evil than Alessandra if player wanted. And She have brains too. But I prefer Alessandra to be dangerous for my kane is because, we have no control over her upto now unless you follow secret sub route. We can make Olivia as sub, fuck Dominique and Juli in the 8.2 dart scene with the total control and that continues later too, as domi and juli talk with you with certain hidden indirect respect and treat you as their guy (assuming you are on their routes). But, Alessandra is still a mystery figure to MC, who supports his sister more than him, trying to divert him to not try for total control (z5) but adjust with z4 (if you concentrate on pool conversation), even going forward to manipulate Olivia to her female supremacy goal (thankgod Olivia is also second MC, we have choices to back out). She is dangerous because she is hard for kane to figure it out and we have less control over her.

Same can be said about veronica too, but she is less interested in all this drama and company control. She have other bigger issues to worry about and not a threat to either good or evil domkane, atleast upto now. Remember the juli conversation with Gary in initial stage of game?

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[NewGuy2022]

I think I get what you mean but would argue that its not 'harder' to give oral to a woman with pubic hair . But I would also say that giving oral to a woman has nothing do with submitting per se, but forced facesitting of course is. I just assumed it was easier/cheaper to not bother with pubic hair, for both men and women.

I would acutally be intrested in your opinions about what dominance vs submission, because I also think some stuff feels off at times.

I don't remember saying anything about shaved vs. trimmed, etc.; perhaps that was someone else?

As for my differing opinion with the developer on dominance vs. submissiveness, as the player I often feel compelled to force Kane to do things I don't want because if he fails to do them he suffers a loss of dom points, or gains sub points, or the NPCs clearly view Kane as more submissive.

To me, it would take balls to say "no" to something a Karlsson wants so refusing sex with Kitty *just because the Karlssons want you to do her* should reward you with dom points... ..not penalize you. Refusing to mash Jake's face into a bowl of dog food should earn you dom points (for defying Juliette) instead of penalizing you with sub pts. Refusing to play darts with a slave as your dartboard should not penalize you if you do it to refuse Tess...

To me, committing acts you don't want to do because you're caving in to the Karlssons should be considered *submissive*, not *dominant.* That's the biggest disconnect I have with the developer.

When Kane refuses to do something and the Karlsson says, "you know, it's not a good idea to refuse a board member request" what I want for Kane to say is, "Oh, yeah? I've got your "submissive" hanging long and low; why don't you blow me?"

It never seems to work out that way for some reason...

BTW, I don't disagree with your opinion on the "dominant" Karlsson women. Kitty very clearly is a switch and wants to be dominated; Dominique won't shut up about how she wants a strong man to take her, etc. I don't think that would work with Veronica but Alessandra would like it. And that is why I refuse to do anything with most of them. (Veronica, Nurse Reyes, Junko, Kane's pod girls, etc., are all on my "yes" list).

 

[harsha_26]

I don't remember saying anything about shaved vs. trimmed, etc.; perhaps that was someone else?

As for my differing opinion with the developer on dominance vs. submissiveness, as the player I often feel compelled to force Kane to do things I don't want because if he fails to do them he suffers a loss of dom points, or gains sub points, or the NPCs clearly view Kane as more submissive.

To me, it would take balls to say "no" to something a Karlsson wants so refusing sex with Kitty *just because the Karlssons want you to do her* should reward you with dom points... ..not penalize you. Refusing to mash Jake's face into a bowl of dog food should earn you dom points (for defying Juliette) instead of penalizing you with sub pts. Refusing to play darts with a slave as your dartboard should not penalize you if you do it to refuse Tess...

To me, committing acts you don't want to do because you're caving in to the Karlssons should be considered *submissive*, not *dominant.* That's the biggest disconnect I have with the developer.

When Kane refuses to do something and the Karlsson says, "you know, it's not a good idea to refuse a board member request" what I want for Kane to say is, "Oh, yeah? I've got your "submissive" hanging long and low; why don't you blow me?"

It never seems to work out that way for some reason...

BTW, I don't disagree with your opinion on the "dominant" Karlsson women. Kitty very clearly is a switch and wants to be dominated; Dominique won't shut up about how she wants a strong man to take her, etc. I don't think that would work with Veronica but Alessandra would like it. And that is why I refuse to do anything with most of them. (Veronica, Nurse Reyes, Junko, Kane's pod girls, etc., are all on my "yes" list).

You don't like submissive women Or girls who act like dominant but actually submissive?

I think lot of these girls made this way to convince the dom player that these girls are into submission and that player wont feel dominating them as incoherent. Remember kane's inner dialogue in scene with first Dominique sex scene? Kane also admits your theory.

 

[NewGuy2022]

How the fuck did this get past testing?

Perhaps the testers didn't have enough candles to read while confined to their cages...

 

[NewGuy2022]

You don't like submissive women Or girls who act like dominant but actually submissive?

Where did I say that? Because that's not true of me at all.

I hate Karlssons (most of them, anyway). I direct Kane to refuse to do what the Karlssons want most of the time because I hate the Karlssons. I don't understand why bowing down and doing whatever they want even when you don't agree with it is considered "dominant" but giving them the finger and refusing to do what they want is considered "submissive". ???

 

[PureoSpice]

I don't understand why bowing down and doing whatever they want even when you don't agree with it is considered "dominant" but giving them the finger and refusing to do what they want is considered "submissive". ???

In my opinion it’s quite simple. Is not about what you consider submissive or dominant but rather Kane being smart.

Don’t forget this game is strongly based on women empowerment. Kane is still a Karlsson property and bein’ K9 does not make any difference other than havin’ some privileges. A simple refusal of his, can have strong repercussions on him. while the act itself is not sub, the consequences while surly be since those freaky bitches will have you do some crazy sub tings. For now it’s better to make some allies and don’t try to overdo it to much while tryin’ to be dominant kuz those who are in power is them, not Kane.

 

[Rowszix]

I don't remember saying anything about shaved vs. trimmed, etc.; perhaps that was someone else?

As for my differing opinion with the developer on dominance vs. submissiveness, as the player I often feel compelled to force Kane to do things I don't want because if he fails to do them he suffers a loss of dom points, or gains sub points, or the NPCs clearly view Kane as more submissive.

To me, it would take balls to say "no" to something a Karlsson wants so refusing sex with Kitty *just because the Karlssons want you to do her* should reward you with dom points... ..not penalize you. Refusing to mash Jake's face into a bowl of dog food should earn you dom points (for defying Juliette) instead of penalizing you with sub pts. Refusing to play darts with a slave as your dartboard should not penalize you if you do it to refuse Tess...

To me, committing acts you don't want to do because you're caving in to the Karlssons should be considered *submissive*, not *dominant.* That's the biggest disconnect I have with the developer.

When Kane refuses to do something and the Karlsson says, "you know, it's not a good idea to refuse a board member request" what I want for Kane to say is, "Oh, yeah? I've got your "submissive" hanging long and low; why don't you blow me?"

It never seems to work out that way for some reason...

BTW, I don't disagree with your opinion on the "dominant" Karlsson women. Kitty very clearly is a switch and wants to be dominated; Dominique won't shut up about how she wants a strong man to take her, etc. I don't think that would work with Veronica but Alessandra would like it. And that is why I refuse to do anything with most of them. (Veronica, Nurse Reyes, Junko, Kane's pod girls, etc., are all on my "yes" list).

Ahh I see. Ok but the situations you describe dont really give you sub points. They give you negative points for the ranking. So it is not seen as submisive to defy the Karlssons in this situations, but it is bad for your grade.

Which actually brings me to something intresting. When starting the game and from the introduction in the very first choice of the game, it seemed there were two opposites that would form the story:
Dom vs Sub
Good vs Evil
BUT the game forkes much to hard, much to early for the first opposite to acutally matter anymore. It is nearly impossible to get actual sub points on dom route (except secret sub of course) and also nearly impossible to get dom points os sub route. I think one of the only times that acutally happens is in very early shared decisions after the initial K4 or K5/K6 grade.

What I get from this is, that initially the game was most likely planned very different to acutal use those 4 stats as the most important to actually form the story. But instead of constantly make decisions about those stats, Tess decided to basically make 2 games. One for dom and one for sub.
There is only one chance to change from K4 or lower to K5+ and this is with Olivias first judgment scene. And the change here actually forces the player into secret sub. While it is complelty impossible to fall down from K5 to K4.
This game split acutally opens up one of the biggest plot holes (in my opinion) on sub route:
During the second Olivia judgment in the throne room, a good Olivia with max sisTeam and princesseye points (up to this point of course) forbids Kane from using his Kpass to go from K4 to K5, because she doesn't want anybody get that rank on that day. BUT she knows that the game show will happen after that. A game show that has a pretty high chance of killing Kane (at least in the story) so WHY THE ACTUAL FUCK does she prevents her adoptive brother/love interest to be safe from this, if she is good and has a good realtionship with him ?

I assume (and really this is speculation) that initially (and I mean very early) the ranking was planned as less relevant for being sub or dom but more like an overall ranking how good the player does, while interactions with different characters would play out differently depending on how dominant/submissive Kane is or acts in these situations.
As a sub leaning switch, this actual would be an even more intresting game to me , and what I thought it would be from the introduction.

So yeah, the game does not penalize you with sub points. It penalizes you with giving you a worse grade. Because the dom stat doesnt really seem to matter anymore after we are on dom route.

And about the switch girls. I agree with your examples except Alessandra. I think she is acutally one of the girls that only really wants a sub long term and she acts like it. Yes she enjoys using Kane as a bull in cuckold stuff but unlike Dominique or Juliette she doesn't really wants Kane to take the lead. But I complelty agree with Veronica, she either wants a Kane that is equal to her. She doesn't want a guy that dominates her, but a partner. Or a sub if on sub route, but even here she seems to be more into gentle femdom and it seems her sub would have to be very competent and successful outside of the bedroom (kinda like with secret sub, but coming from sub route instead of dom route).

 

[Rowszix]

Olivia can be what is based on player but upto some limits (not like Kane because she is not the main MC). So, she can be more evil than Alessandra if player wanted. And She have brains too. But I prefer Alessandra to be dangerous for my kane is because, we have no control over her upto now unless you follow secret sub route. We can make Olivia as sub, fuck Dominique and Juli in the 8.2 dart scene with the total control and that continues later too, as domi and juli talk with you with certain hidden indirect respect and treat you as their guy (assuming you are on their routes). But, Alessandra is still a mystery figure to MC, who supports his sister more than him, trying to divert him to not try for total control (z5) but adjust with z4 (if you concentrate on pool conversation), even going forward to manipulate Olivia to her female supremacy goal (thankgod Olivia is also second MC, we have choices to back out). She is dangerous because she is hard for kane to figure it out and we have less control over her.

Same can be said about veronica too, but she is less interested in all this drama and company control. She have other bigger issues to worry about and not a threat to either good or evil domkane, atleast upto now. Remember the juli conversation with Gary in initial stage of game?

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Yes Alessandra is not on team kane unless on secret sub and even then, she is more likely on team Alessandra with Kane being part of it. Alessandra truly believes women are superior, the reason she isn't pushing to take control herself is her hedonistic mind set. She doesn't want all the work that is necessary for leading the company so she pushes Olivia to take control.
I think Veronica will be extremly dangerous to Kane if a good Kane goes for revolution route without saving Maria. She is against the revolution (which makes total sense, since we know that she could end the Karlssons reign from the flashback with Alexander), several dialogs on both sub and dom make this clear. The only reason she doesn't stop it immediatly is because it's her mother and her favorite sister who are pushing it. But if she isn't moved to the good side, she will most likely put an end to it at some point, while trying to protect Yvette and Astrid from harm and instead let others take the blame like Junko, Otto, Kyomi and ... Kane.

And about her immunity ... I actually think there is no real story reason for it ... it's because of TQA and Tess wants the groundwork for TQA to always happen in KG. I don't like that, it puts unnecessary restrictions on her story. Planning the sequel while the main game is basically only half done is also not the best decision in my opinion. Especially since Tess seems to like to make story changes sometimes.

 

[NewGuy2022]

Also didn't they just tell Kane that how he does with his team is important? If so, why would Kane try to kill someone from his pod?

Just my opinion and not supported by insider info or screenshots so give this whatever weight you want... ...I get the feeling the pods don't really matter. This is a trial for Kane (and a few others: Angelica, Chloe, etc.) to see how he multitasks, deals with problem solving, acts/reacts under stress, and demonstrates leadership potential.

For a few of the pod girls, it's a chance to gauge what roles they likely can handle post-release. Some, like Kwame, Zach, and Jake, are just suffering for Dominique's enjoyment (and probably Olivia's WRT Jake).

The board will advance or reduce Kane based upon his performance, how the factions assess he can help them or harm the others, and their biases. Just a red herring thrown in for added stress... ...again, just spitballing here.