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I didnt meant that Alexander would necessarly encourage it, but he wont interfere with it either. And about the homeschool thing, Callista is told to be a super uber genius, the only one comparable to Veronica. If somebody could make sure that Kane would be able to use all of his natural talents it, without an expensive education it would be her. As I said it feels sketchy that he is the only "normal" guy in a family of world class geniuses.
Kane was raised for the gambit, he wasnt raised to have a life outside of it. I'm sure he knows his subjects but hobbies like botany zoology and hacking likely weren't encouraged so he wouldnt have use for those skills. For all we know he could be a genius but those skills wouldnt be developed
 

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Why does Kane actually seem so mediocre compared to his parents and his sister (Nadia)? Basically everyone who has a powerful lineage in the game is exceptional to some degree. And Kane was also raised by Callista, so I would think that he is also extremly intelligent or extremly talented in a specific field or both. But even super successfull dom route Kane seems not to be a genius. Yes he is intelligent and all, but not as exceptional as someone with his lineage and upbringing should be. Also he was never able to lift himself up before going to prison, of course he is pretty young and maybe didn't had so many chances, but all of this seems a little bit sketchy to me? Is Kane maybe actually hiding something himself?

I think many people accept that Olivia most likely hides her knowledge about her heritage from the begging and how much she knows about the gambit and all. *Putsontinfoilhat* Is Kane maybe also aware of everything and also just plays a role? Maybe even he and Olivia are actually working together behind the scenes (I know this sounds kinda far fetched, but I just looking for reasons why Kane isn't on the same level as the rest of his family)?
It's a femdom world and Kane is a guy ... legally he is still between 2 states : 5 years in prison or master/survive 6 months of Karlsson Group rehabilitation program ... in both places all the superiors and stuff are females with femdom kink ... that all limits his options except for the situations where the girls want to play with him and grant him some temporary power ...

And then the dev is a female with femdom fetish and this is her game, so she won't include too much maledom stuff if she is not into maledom ... see the current dom route as a fan service for some of her more vanilla patrons ...
 

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It's a femdom world and Kane is a guy ... legally he is still between 2 states : 5 years in prison or master/survive 6 months of Karlsson Group rehabilitation program ... in both places all the superiors and stuff are females with femdom kink ... that all limits his options except for the situations where the girls want to play with him and grant him some temporary power ...

And then the dev is a female with femdom fetish and this is her game, so she won't include too much maledom stuff if she is not into maledom ... see the current dom route as a fan service for some of her more vanilla patrons ...
Sure i get this. But no I don't want Kane to be more dominant, I came to this game for the femdom, I only play the dom route for completionist values. I was just wondering why he just seems not to be as brilliant as the rest of his immediate family. Which again kind of feels sketchy to me.

Kane was a blatant reminder of Alexander's failures. Because Alexander failed to remain faithful to Callista, he lost her. Kane's father is Alexander's best friend (big loss). Callista ran away to escape from Alexander so, other than being the male carrier of Callista's bloodline and a means to offer leverage over Cole and Callista, I don't think Alexander cared a damn about Kane. Just my opinion.
He told the daughter in the intro to test him. That this was his final price. So to say he doesn't care about him, I dont buy that. Alexander fought himself from the bottom to the top. If I remember correctly he always wanted a son but only got daughters. Now he puts the son of the only woman he always loved in an extremly shitty position to see if he can succeed from there, to succeed like he did. I think he would accept Kane to be a slave to one of his daughters, to be just a sperm donor. But I guess that he hopes that it will be different. I think he hopes that Kane could be like him with one if his daughters as his partner, and then together they create the perfect heir to his empire.
If he just wanted Kanes sperm then my god just get it and impregnate one of your daughters with it. There is no need to actually put him through the gambit. Let the daughters fight it out between themselves and be done with it. But no he wanted Kane to have a chance for power.

And if we assume that the daughter from the intro is Olivia: He asks her if she has fooled him too, and she says yes. So this is why actually came up with the idea of Olivia of them both working together from the beginning, basically a gigantic fuck you to the father she fooled from the second they met.
Kane and Olivia were extremly close in their childhood. Maybe, and this is a big maybe, there acutally were in love with each other even before. Maybe Olivia went straight to Kane and told him everyhting. Then tey came up with a plan to fuck with the Karlssons. Maybe the plan was for both to get as much power as they can --> Dom/Dom route. (There also is the sentence about unlimited power in the hand of one person leads to cruelty in the intro. Maybe a good Olivia thought that while this is true, she decided to just change the premise completly and just not fight on her own and was willing to share power with Kane)
Maybe they came to the conclusion that only when Olivia seems to be ruthless and dominates her own "brother" she will be seen as capable enough by her sisters --> Sub route. (This actually would explain the statment from Tess that Kane is ok with everyhting that happens to him, and if Kane is actually into being a sub, this also works :p)
To make my tinfoil hat even bigger: We already get sometimes decisions on flashbacks. Maybe all of this only happend in the past when the Oliva and Kane actually are in a relationship. (Basically the actions of the present would shape what happend in the past)

For your argument that they don't talk about it even when they assume they are not under surveillance, they can never be sure that nobody hears everything they say, maybe through the chip or bomb inside of Kane, so they won't risk anything. (I know this is not the strongest argument :p, but it could explain it to some degree).

Again I am not at all conviced this is true. I just tried to explain to myself why Kane seems more "normal" compared to his family of super geniuses. And the secret power couple is the best idea I came up with so far.
 
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Sure i get this. But no I don't want Kane to be more dominant, I came to this game for the femdom, I only play the dom route for completionist values. I was just wondering why he just seems not to be as brilliant as the rest of his immediate family. Which again kind of feels sketchy to me.


He told the daughter in the intro to test him. That this was his final price. So to say he doesn't care about him, I dont buy that. Alexander fought himself from the bottom to the top. If I remember correctly he always wanted a son but only got daughters. Now he puts the son of the only woman he always loved in an extremly shitty position to see if he can succeed from there, to succeed like he did. I think he would accept Kane to be a slave to one of his daughters, to be just a sperm donor. But I guess that he hopes that it will be different. I think he hopes that Kane could be like him with one if his daughters as his partner, and then together they create the perfect heir to his empire.
If he just wanted Kanes sperm then my god just get it and impregnate one of your daughters with it. There is no need to actually put him through the gambit. Let the daughters fight it out between themselves and be done with it. But no he wanted Kane to have a chance for power.

And if we assume that the daughter from the intro is Olivia: He asks her if she has fooled him too, and she says yes. So this is why actually came up with the idea of Olivia of them both working together from the beginning, basically a gigantic fuck you to the father she fooled from the second they met.
Kane and Olivia were extremly close in their childhood. Maybe, and this is a big maybe, there acutally were in love with each other even before. Maybe Olivia went straight to Kane and told him everyhting. Then tey came up with a plan to fuck with the Karlssons. Maybe the plan was for both to get as much power as they can --> Dom/Dom route. (There also is the sentence about unlimited power in the hand of one person leads to cruelty in the intro. Maybe a good Olivia thought that while this is true, she decided to just change the premise completly and just not fight on her own and was willing to share power with Kane)
Maybe they came to the conclusion that only when Olivia seems to be ruthless and dominates her own "brother" she will be seen as capable enough by her sisters --> Sub route. (This actually would explain the statment from Tess that Kane is ok with everyhting that happens to him, and if Kane is actually into being a sub, this also works :p)
To make my tinfoil hat even bigger: We already get sometimes decisions on flashbacks. Maybe all of this only happend in the past when the Oliva and Kane actually are in a relationship. (Basically the actions of the present would shape what happend in the past)

For your argument that they don't talk about it even when they assume they are not under surveillance, they can never be sure that nobody hears everything they say, maybe through the chip or bomb inside of Kane, so they won't risk anything. (I know this is not the strongest argument :p, but it could explain it to some degree).

Again I am not at all conviced this is true. I just tried to explain to myself why Kane seems more "normal" compared to his family of super geniuses. And the secret power couple is the best idea I came up with so far.
If "Olivia Secret" is true, then she always knew Kane is not her brother. She acted well with Elena. And It seems Olivia have some type of "feelings" (love/attraction/sex) towards Kane even in past, but couldn't expressed them because of that ain't the right time. Jake tried hard to get Olivia, but she never given him a chance. If you observe, Olivia is very easy to accept Kane as a sexual being after elena reveal and propose the idea to Kane. Isn't this unnatural for a girl who believed someone to be her own brother all along?

And in this latest dom update, if you take alessandra+olivia room (Demoness path), you know how Olivia reacts to Jake and give kiss to Kane, if you choose the last option of judgement?
 
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If "Olivia Secret" is true, then she always knew Kane is not her brother. She acted well with Elena. And It seems Olivia have some type of "feelings" (love/attraction/sex) towards Kane even in past, but couldn't expressed them because of that ain't the right time. Jake tried hard to get Olivia, but she never given him a chance. If you observe, Olivia is very easy to accept Kane as a sexual being after elena reveal and propose the idea to Kane. Isn't this unnatural for a girl who believed someone to be her own brother all along?

And in this latest dom update, if you take alessandra+olivia room (Demoness path), you know how Olivia reacts to Jake and give kiss to Kane, if you choose the last option of judgement?
I agree that Olivia likely knew the truth about Kane not being her brother because I believe Callista trained her for her current role. I agree the romantic attraction was (and is, if the player accepts it) there. The real kicker is that Elena is the one who keeps proposing it; does she think that it's her idea (perhaps put there by Callista and Olivia)? A lot to wrap one's head around with this game.
 
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I agree that Olivia likely knew the truth about Kane not being her brother because I believe Callista trained her for her current role. I agree the romantic attraction was (and is, if the player accepts it) there. The real kicker is that Elena is the one who keeps proposing it; does she think that it's her idea (perhaps put there by Callista and Olivia)? A lot to wrap one's head around with this game.
I guess Elena actually doesn't really care about Kane (but she wants him to be useful for Olivia). But to some extent she most likely understands or at least has some ideas how to win the gambit from the very beginning. And she wants Olivia to win. At least she knows that Kane is somehow important for the gambit, so keeping him close to Olivia is the smart decision.
But if Olivia knows everything then she also has Elena heavily manipulated from the very beginning and keeps doing so by telling her: Oh no don't give up your position in the board for me mother. While in secret she thinks: Hah, that was even easier then expected, now how do I get my stupid sisters to kill each other while gaining more control at the same time, while everybody thinks I am on their side :LOL:. Fun thing is that would work for both, evil power hungry Olivia or good Olivia, that actually wants to make a change, and simply knows that she has to take out most of her family to do that.
 

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I agree that Olivia likely knew the truth about Kane not being her brother because I believe Callista trained her for her current role. I agree the romantic attraction was (and is, if the player accepts it) there. The real kicker is that Elena is the one who keeps proposing it; does she think that it's her idea (perhaps put there by Callista and Olivia)? A lot to wrap one's head around with this game.
Yes, independently which path you decided for your novel, it is getting more and more interesting, how the story will develop. Normally I decide for only on one path, in some cases like this novel, I try for a short sequence two options and then decide which one to go on. "Sales and marketing" is too extreme for my feeling, but was interesting to watch in the last available sequence
 

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I guess Elena actually doesn't really care about Kane (but she wants him to be useful for Olivia). But to some extent she most likely understands or at least has some ideas how to win the gambit from the very beginning. And she wants Olivia to win. At least she knows that Kane is somehow important for the gambit, so keeping him close to Olivia is the smart decision.
But if Olivia knows everything then she also has Elena heavily manipulated from the very beginning and keeps doing so by telling her: Oh no don't give up your position in the board for me mother. While in secret she thinks: Hah, that was even easier then expected, now how do I get my stupid sisters to kill each other while gaining more control at the same time, while everybody thinks I am on their side :LOL:. Fun thing is that would work for both, evil power hungry Olivia or good Olivia, that actually wants to make a change, and simply knows that she has to take out most of her family to do that.
Yes. Elena made it plain that she wants Kane to pair up with Olivia and since she's Team Olivia's biggest cheerleader, she'll support anyone who helps Olivia in the long run. Don't forget that Elena and Callista are chatting about strategy (or were before Olivia left to go be with Cole).
 

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Yes. Elena made it plain that she wants Kane to pair up with Olivia and since she's Team Olivia's biggest cheerleader, she'll support anyone who helps Olivia in the long run. Don't forget that Elena and Callista are chatting about strategy (or were before Olivia left to go be with Cole).
Yep I am still curious about what Callistas real endgame is. I suppose she want to save Kane by any means necessary in the end. Maybe by pairing him with Olivia or Veronica as either a sub or a partner.
I am really wondering how pissed Kane will/can be when Callista and Olivia reveal that they knew about what will happen to him.

Also it will be interesting if Kane might be able to betray the revolution faction, which I think Cole and Callista now also support, by going much harder then they wanted, and simply bring chaos, basically destroying the status quo without any safety nets. Veronica of course could then just go to island 4 and be safe, but for the rest of the sisters and their employees it could end much worse.
 

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Yep I am still curious about what Callistas real endgame is. I suppose she want to save Kane by any means necessary in the end. Maybe by pairing him with Olivia or Veronica as either a sub or a partner.
I am really wondering how pissed Kane will/can be when Callista and Olivia reveal that they knew about what will happen to him.

Also it will be interesting if Kane might be able to betray the revolution faction, which I think Cole and Callista now also support, by going much harder then they wanted, and simply bring chaos, basically destroying the status quo without any safety nets. Veronica of course could then just go to island 4 and be safe, but for the rest of the sisters and their employees it could end much worse.
Callistas first endgame is getting that bomb out of Kane's head, her second is likely running the Karlsson company through Kane and likely Olivia. Either that or at the very least have kane survive all this and chilling on island 4

He'll definitely be able to betray the faction. The real question is what will cole and callistas reaction to that be.

I agree that Olivia likely knew the truth about Kane not being her brother because I believe Callista trained her for her current role. I agree the romantic attraction was (and is, if the player accepts it) there. The real kicker is that Elena is the one who keeps proposing it; does she think that it's her idea (perhaps put there by Callista and Olivia)? A lot to wrap one's head around with this game.
She was proposing their getting together before elena even knew Callista was alive. Im betting she knows how to win the gambit she's just unable to do much then foster their attraction. I do wonder what she will do if Kane isnt interested in Olivia
 

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... I was just wondering why he just seems not to be as brilliant as the rest of his immediate family. ...
The very first dialogs of Kane in prison eg with Elena or Patricia show brilliance if you pick the smart choices, not the dom or sub choices ...
Once Kane is on one of the two main paths, there are less options and less need to place intelligent comments in the game since they would not affect the current path. If Kane is already on the sub path he won't get promoted by talking smart but by solving the impossible tasks he gets. (Later sub Kane will likely need all his wits to stay on K4 to not get demoted further ...)

I think the game features several Kane characters depending on path.
The brilliant Kane starts K6.
The less brilliant, sub Kane starts as K4 and if he misses the first K5 promotion he obviously is even less brilliant and more a sub. This is shown in dialogs on sub path eg with Veronica where she points out his sub character.

It's a bit like in those old RPGs (like Fallout) where you can give your character stats for Intelligence, Strength, etc.
High Int may give additional dialog options which may open new paths ...
Here it seems reversed : not picking the smart dialog options seems to imply that your character is not smart.
(That's bad for completionists who try to play all the paths ...)


I don't remember any Olivia or Callista dialogs where they show brilliance. It's just repeated all the time by others that they are brilliant but it is not shown to the audience. One of the problems here is that lots of their story is still hidden. And another problem is that due to latest reveals the early Olivia parts do no longer make much sense since they are obviously fake to mislead the player and others.

Olivia still has to prove her brilliance with brilliant actions, otherwise the players may start to see her as kind of "false" or "fake" character, just facade and talks but no action (in regard to brilliance) ...
 
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The very first dialogs of Kane in prison eg with Elena or Patricia show brilliance if you pick the smart choices, not the dom or sub choices ...
Once Kane is on one of the two main paths, there are less options and less need to place intelligent comments in the game since they would not affect the current path. If Kane is already on the sub path he won't get promoted by talking smart but by solving the impossible tasks he gets. (Later sub Kane will likely need all his wits to stay on K4 to not get demoted further ...)

I think the game features several Kane characters depending on path.
The brilliant Kane starts K6.
The less brilliant, sub Kane starts as K4 and if he misses the first K5 promotion he obviously is even less brilliant and more a sub. This is shown in dialogs on sub path eg with Veronica where she points out his sub character.

It's a bit like in those old RPGs (like Fallout) where you can give your character stats for Intelligence, Strength, etc.
High Int may give additional dialog options which may open new paths ...
Here it seems reversed : not picking the smart dialog options seems to imply that your character is not smart.
(That's bad for completionists who try to play all the paths ...)


I don't remember any Olivia or Callista dialogs where they show brilliance. It's just repeated all the time by others that they are brilliant but it is not shown to the audience. One of the problems here is that lots of their story is still hidden. And another problem is that due to latest reveals the early Olivia parts do no longer make much sense since they are obviously fake to mislead the player and others.

Olivia still has to prove her brilliance with brilliant actions, otherwise the players may start to see her as kind of "false" or "fake" character, just facade and talks but no action (in regard to brilliance) ...
Yeah, I think there definetly was a plan sometimes for a pretty intelligent Kane, that could be cunning and tried to play the long game. But as you said it gets less and less. But even then, it kind of lacks the showing of potential he should have because of his heritage. Especially in sub path. But I totally accept that I am maybe nitpicking here.

I also think a lot of early interactions are no longer fitting anymore. Like Veronica masturbating on the first Seth experiment scene. Or after giving Allessandra the husband and wive asking to do some experiments on them. I assume she was planned as much more on hands on evil, but then developed into a more cold hearted, scientific evil, to be more different from her sisters.

For Olivias brillance I think you are right. It is said that she runs the programm very succesfull but we only get some interactions from her actual doing it. So most of it is just offscreen and we just have to accept the face value for it. But it is like this with most highly intelligent characters in the game. Callista has just not a lot of screen time so I would agree here too. Even though I think showing high intelligence for characters is one of the hardest things in fiction. You basically have to create really hard to solve problems, where the characters then can show off - like Sherlock Holmes brillant deductions for example. But if your story doesn't focus on that it gets harder.

Edit: Even though as a submission and femdom enjoyer I don't really like the idea of stupid Kane = sub Kane ;) .
 
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Corporate Development Memo 7 December 2025

Hi Patrons this is Anais I'm writing for Tess and she helped me edit this for here!

I'm just listing down her notes of course she is having a crazy week over the next 10 days so helping her out! I can't talk on that but I think you can guess something special happening soon!

Last two weeks is about 118 and 110 renders this week.

9 more animations done for scene with Claudia and Liam in the two tub room. I dunno how she picks animations but I think she should keep most of them for game!

Outro all 31 renders finished and tested in game.

Claudia good scene all done -- Claudia evil scene 25 more written to pose!

Game 6 written need to pose only big work left

K1 scene almost done 10-15 more renders pose

She has written down this for me: Realistic goal for Final A release --> December 17-22 window. Christmas final hard date Final B.

She is leaving country on December 21 so I am super trying to help make sure all done by then!

I want to write this here but I didn't ask her to say this so I hope she doesn't yell at me!

They are an epic couple and I'm so excited for their future! Real talk and no cap, Wonder Woman and Superman for real!

I'm more math/gaming/creative drawing kind of girl than beautiful writer so I stop while not digging bigger hole, haha!

We all working hard to help get game out as soon as possible she want me to make sure and say sorry for little extra time this update btwn final and test but more content and of course life unique thing!

Have epic week, seize life!

Dancing with excitement,

Anais

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Corporate Development Memo 7 December 2025

Hi Patrons this is Anais I'm writing for Tess and she helped me edit this for here!

I'm just listing down her notes of course she is having a crazy week over the next 10 days so helping her out! I can't talk on that but I think you can guess something special happening soon!

Last two weeks is about 118 and 110 renders this week.

9 more animations done for scene with Claudia and Liam in the two tub room. I dunno how she picks animations but I think she should keep most of them for game!

Outro all 31 renders finished and tested in game.

Claudia good scene all done -- Claudia evil scene 25 more written to pose!

Game 6 written need to pose only big work left

K1 scene almost done 10-15 more renders pose

She has written down this for me: Realistic goal for Final A release --> December 17-22 window. Christmas final hard date Final B.

She is leaving country on December 21 so I am super trying to help make sure all done by then!

I want to write this here but I didn't ask her to say this so I hope she doesn't yell at me!

They are an epic couple and I'm so excited for their future! Real talk and no cap, Wonder Woman and Superman for real!

I'm more math/gaming/creative drawing kind of girl than beautiful writer so I stop while not digging bigger hole, haha!

We all working hard to help get game out as soon as possible she want me to make sure and say sorry for little extra time this update btwn final and test but more content and of course life unique thing!

Have epic week, seize life!

Dancing with excitement,

Anais

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Looking forward. Tell Tess, she is doing a very impressive work. The amount of variation you could do is huge. Still happy to see, that I can get the novel onto the path I do enjoy the most. Keep it up.
 
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Corporate Development Memo 7 December 2025

Hi Patrons this is Anais I'm writing for Tess and she helped me edit this for here!

I'm just listing down her notes of course she is having a crazy week over the next 10 days so helping her out! I can't talk on that but I think you can guess something special happening soon!

Last two weeks is about 118 and 110 renders this week.

9 more animations done for scene with Claudia and Liam in the two tub room. I dunno how she picks animations but I think she should keep most of them for game!

Outro all 31 renders finished and tested in game.

Claudia good scene all done -- Claudia evil scene 25 more written to pose!

Game 6 written need to pose only big work left

K1 scene almost done 10-15 more renders pose

She has written down this for me: Realistic goal for Final A release --> December 17-22 window. Christmas final hard date Final B.

She is leaving country on December 21 so I am super trying to help make sure all done by then!

I want to write this here but I didn't ask her to say this so I hope she doesn't yell at me!

They are an epic couple and I'm so excited for their future! Real talk and no cap, Wonder Woman and Superman for real!

I'm more math/gaming/creative drawing kind of girl than beautiful writer so I stop while not digging bigger hole, haha!

We all working hard to help get game out as soon as possible she want me to make sure and say sorry for little extra time this update btwn final and test but more content and of course life unique thing!

Have epic week, seize life!

Dancing with excitement,

Anais

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This is definitely a real person that talks like this. Now if I can just place the accent...:unsure:
 

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From what I've seen in the walkthroughs, if Kane is a sub his refusal will make things fairly brutal for him. Since I'm pushing for the throuple, I'm Team Olivia (and Team Veronica, too).
Mhh that actually depends on player choice. Evil Olivia is already very harsh to Kane all the time. If he refuses to see her sexual I think it's not really that problematic, if he refuses to accept Elena's sponsorship, Olivia can make it much harder for him (but this is actual a player choice) in the game show and also tells him she doesn't consider him family anymore. Which is rich because, if I am not mistaken about the order of events, regardless of this she can say even earlier that she doesn't want him to be save from being killed during the game show.

All of this implies that Kane actually can die during the game show, which of course would basically fuck up the gambit completely and most likely lead to an all out war between the Karlssons and the DeCocks, I assume this is one the most "bad" endings (bad for most of the cast and Kane of course, because he's dead, duh, but maybe one of the most positive for the rest of the world :LOL:) for the game, in which basically no one will come out on top. If it happens like this, then this also would be one of the very rare occasions in the game where choosing pure evil would actually be a "bad" choice for a character personally.
 
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If the mc dies in a game it's usually called a bad ending.
Here it seems that killing Kane will be a player choice for those with morbid femdom fantasies. AfaIk Kane first has to drop to K1 to get in the death zone.

Kane does not really matter. He is there because he is the son of Cole and Callista.
Both Cole and Callista were presumed dead back then in 2020 but now they are alive and in the game.
If Kane dies, they can make new babies for the gambit ... and Veronica can likely help to grow them faster ...
She probably could also just take genetic materials from all of them and then create/clone new Kanes without 9 months delays for pregnancies ... if the gambit matters at all.
 
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