- Thread starter Stone Eyes
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The guy making this mod wanished, rip shower mod.
Author's last communique dates back to 2022.
Doesn't make the action legal
It doesn't matter why they are in place. It's not up to you do interpret it
Doesn't matter. Go ahead and edit unlicensed fork in github since you're so confident
Piracy is complex term that includes both unauthorized use and distribution. You can google it
I don't assume anything. I gave you a reference to the copyright law description. Ironically, you assumed that author don't care about pirating the game and will never change his mind, which, for some reason, makes the action of stripping demo barrier legal
No need for personal attacks if you can't prove your arguments with anything but your assumptions. I provided you reference to copyright law, which you continuously ignore. Read carefully since you have some peculiar misconception of the law that might have actual consequences if you have enough skills in development/hacking.Lifting the demo restriction is about accessing unfinished content left by the dev that's not normally accessible in the game. It's equivalent to modders accessing hot coffee in GTA SA. That has nothing to do with piracy. You clearly do not understand what piracy means just like the mods in the dev's discord. You might as well apply to become a mod there.
Yeah, the official docs from github is my narrative. The world doesn't disappear when you close eyes
Oh, I get it now. You think that if you have license, i.e. bought the product or subscription, you can do everything with it, including code modifications. That's another misconception. Read any license agreement and you'll see that you can't modify code or reverse engineer it in most cases (example of an exception can be open-source projects with MIT-like license)
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Never thought people in a Porn game forum can hold such moral obligations to something as piracy.
It's not about morals. I frequently bypass apps/game protections myself if price is too steep and there is no crack available. Difference is that I understand consequences of my actions to avoid troubles with law. Ignorance is bliss only until you get caught
But I agree that it is weird place to have objective discussion on this topic, detouched from emotions and beliefs
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Piracy for personal use has always been one of those things I've never had an issue with. Simply put- I was never going to buy the product in the first place, I was simply not interested in it enough so your not loosing out or I don't have the funds so I could have never afforded it in the first place. Let's not forget, it's not like stealing a car or handbag, there is not stock to be replaced, no materials wasted. It's a product that's copied without restraint and distriputed without loss and there was no profit to be made from that person in the first place. Pay for a product because you want to support it and enjoy more of it in the future. Reward creators for a qaulity item not underhanded tactics to part poor fools from their money.
Yeah, I meant is Yasu I was just getting mixed with "robot" stuff, I what is his enemie types as? It is prisoner or thug?
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You assumed dev put anti-piracy measure(on a wip content that isn't even playable), so you can call it a DRM that was "cracked/bypassed" when it's not, just so you can call it "piracy" when it's not.
I gave you several points that support the dev's intentions have never been to fight against piracy, so there's no reason for you to assume the demo barrier is a "anti-piracy measure". From his own words to his actions show that. You're free to go ask the dev if he cares for piracy or not if you're still clueless about his intentions. And while doing that, also apply to become a mod in his discord as you'd fit well with other mods there.
And finally, Github doesn't decide the law on what's copyright infringement when it comes to game modding nor does some EULA from a random trash game which you also falsly assume is 100% enforceable and throws fair use out of the window. That's not how this works, buddy, there's a reason this is a legally gray-area and done on a case by case basis. You may not care about morals but most reasonable and logical people do as we don't want companies fucking over consumers just in their hopes of maximizing profits.
Funny thing is I intended to buy the game at release but KP mods told me I can't "pirate" demo build and get a glimpse at the WIP unplayable content, that I had to either wait for release or pay for subscription on the shitty Patreon site. Lol, Idc how much I want to support a dev, I'm not giving a cent to Patreon
So what's the difference between the clean Steam version that was just updated and the other 1.2.9.64 version in the OP?
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If you couldn't tell by the versioning.
One's the most recent(latest atm) build of the game while the one in OP is an older build not yet updated.
You can check changelog to see if it's worth downloading or not.
Jesus... How do you read my messages. Do you know what modification means? There are game files. Modification is when you open any file, edit it and save. I don't know how explain it simpler
You should've started with the phrase: I don't believe in official documents. I wouldnt try to convince you in this case.
After this amazing speech I can only wish you luck with your all-encompassing and all-allowing definition of fair use and complete disregard of license agreements. All your actions are legal now, congratulations. You've won
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I do but you clearly don't understand the difference between a personal use modification that falls under fair use and a modification that circumvents measures and infringes upon copyright.
No, I don't believe Github taking down some project they consider as a "violation" on their site to be a proof that game modding is inherently illegal. Otherwise most modders wouldn't be so carefree to risk getting into legal troubles as they clearly never got permission from the devs.
I don't see you linking any license agreement for KP for someone who cares so much about official documents, especially when it's a game we're specifically talking about. Of course I'm going to disregard your EULA from a random game that nobody heard of.
(Not that this matters.)As just because something's written on a legal document by the dev doesn't mean it's automatically all enforceable. It's not a set in stone thing. Like I said, this is a gray-area and it's done on a case by case basis for a reason.
If the law decides it falls under fair use, yes, it would indeed be legal. Uncertainty does not mean it's by default illegal.
Yeah, I got you in the previous message. Let's finish this, since nothing I provide will matter
Ah right sorry, just confused on why the OP wasn't being updated if the Steam version was being updated, etc. Cheers.
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I tried to check the changelong but it is not working for me. What's new in the new version?
yasu is a boss you will find him listed as boss_yasu if i remember right. be careful, there is the yasu from the intro fight and the yasu near the end of the game and they are different. it might be boss_yasu2 for the yasu near the end of the game
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You believe Github as the force of law, disregard fair use as a valid defense against copyright infringement and conflate game modding with piracy.
I guess I was also "pirating" KP by just modding a cheatmenu in the game to access the dev's test map that is not normally accessible in-game. Guess that barrier wasn't there to prevent players from engaging with unplayable test content, it was clearly a barrier placed as anti-piracy measure regardless of the dev's intent:-
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