Neriel

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Well damn. I didn't check out those saves myself, but from your analysis on this it does make me believe that this isn't a legit run at all. I mean, it was never said it was a legit run in the first place so I'm only the one at fault for thinking it was, lol.

With my current experience on doing a pure run on prison mode right now, the chance of completing such a run with only those level amount of stats and edicts is pretty much impossible.
Well, sure if that was true. This claim of low 50 Stats is a lie. And that run was legit. You guys want me now to do a vid or what?
 
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Ir0n Ma1den

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I see you posting this over and over again everytime I come here to read the comments. I'm not giving you shit about it to be clear. Just you would be spending your time better if you did this on rem's twitter, discord, or subscribestar. I doubt he cares what anyone says here since it is a big no no to even mention this place on the discord.
If only I could
 

Nazzar

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Was a legit run.

1. If you know the Passives, you know roughly when to fight a Boss. Easy example you will always get the Passive "First time in Heat" fighting the 2nd Boss. So reality is, I didn't fight all Bosses with 19-29-39-49. I usually go with 18-27-38-48. Now I cannot say with what I went exactly in that run. I am sure that in some I was starting at the Limit of 19 or something because of getting 2 Passives while at 17 for example.
All the same, Im sure you can see how finishing all 4 at the absolute edge of failing the slut check every single floor with the argument "i know exactly which passives ill get at which point" (which in itself implies you *know* how every combat will go, RNG be damned) with 0 breathing room for failure - and it panning out each time - really strains credibility. It just doesnt seem like the sensible way to go about it if you truly had the thought "ill have to restart if this hair's breadth calculation doesnt pan out" in the back of your mind.

2. What are you even talking about in Stats?
Low 50? Come on, at least be honest and don't say stuff that isn't even true. And that is with 23% Fat with which you already lose Stats btw.
I assure you, I diligently checked each and every save, before writing a thing and here you are immediately after clearing the 4th floor:
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Those are the base stats - as i said - no fatigue or items, and fine; str and agl are mid-50's. Stat comparisons are done at their unmodified values. So no, im not making stuff up.

3. The Last Boss. The last Boss is not hard. You don't need to worry about Passives anymore. So you can go crazy with Flaunt. Flaunt every wave, same for Boss. Did you even fight the Boss on the save or just looked and said to yourself not possible?
I beat the boss from your save on the third try. Thats not the point. Theoretically, and with luck, doing anything in the game is possible.
However to recall a previous argument, it beggars belief that you would be willing to play all the way through 1025 enemies and the final boss, without hedging your bets to the absolute maximum via simple things such as getting at least the basic versions of any and all upgrades or specializing in a stat, to eliminate the chance of having your time wasted (as i did on my first game over exactly 1 slut level) and the entire run ruined by the exceedingly likely chance of a single miscalculation or unlucky happenstance over the course of all these fights. Unless in the back of your mind failing didnt give you cause to worry, because of...alternatives.
 
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Neriel

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All the same, Im sure you can see how finishing all 4 at the absolute edge of failing the slut check every single floor with the argument "i know exactly which passives ill get at which point" (which in itself implies you *know* how every combat will go, RNG be damned) with 0 breathing room for failure - and it panning out each time - really strains credibility. It just doesnt seem like the sensible way to go about it if you truly had the thought "ill have to restart if this hair's breadth calculation doesnt pan out" in the back of your mind.
And you again don't understand the concept of, these are under 4 hour runs. If something happens, a restart is not that much time spent. And again, I told you that I didn't go to all bosses on the exact point of not being able to get another Slut point. Did you read the 18-27-38-48 rule that I have or just ignore it? There were just a bunch of people asking for a Save and I just took the first run I did. With the idea of hey let's create save points after each Boss, so people could try it themselves on each floor. It just so happend to end with a perfect 19-29-39-49.


I assure you, I diligently checked each and every save, before writing a thing and here you are immediately after clearing the 4th floor:
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Those are the base stats - as i said - no fatigue or items, and fine; str and agl are mid-50's. Stat comparisons are done at their unmodified values. Hence why its no cause to call me a liar.
For real? Why would you fight WITHOUT Items, that I have clearly equipped for a Reason? And why would you fight ever without an easy to get 9% Stat Boost? Like you are saying my run is impossible, by removing stuff. What kind of logic is that? I don't care what the Stats are, if I remove all Items, equip the worst Title and try to get a bad sleep. I only care about the end result. So sure, bring up something that is absolutly irrelevent.

I beat the boss from your save on the third try. Thats not the point. Theoretically, and with luck, doing anything in the game is possible.
However to recall a previous argument, it beggars belief that you would be willing to play all the way through 1025 enemies and the final boss, without hedging your bets to the absolute maximum via simple things such as getting at least the basic versions of any and all upgrades or specializing in a stat, to eliminate the chance of having your time wasted
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and the entire run ruined by a single miscalculation or unlucky happenstance. Unless in the back of your mind failing didnt cause you to worry, because of...reasons.
You are right, I don't worry. Why should I? I have fun with those kinda challenges in all kinda games. So starting over is not a big deal for me. Did I do at some point test runs with save scumming? Of course, to see what is possible and what not. But this run was legit as it gets, from start to finish in one go. No save scumming, no editing files or whatever else you can think of. And I can repeat it no problem, since that run isn't even perfect. Did some bad Edicts choices later stages, since the last time I did such a run was a few months ago. I have been playing this game since 0.3 so believe me, that I had a ton of runs since then. And a lot of failures. But sooner or later you will know what to do. Sure you are correct, that I could not 100% make that run every single time because sometimes bad stuff happens and as you said one Slut Level at the wrong time too much and run over.
 
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markoolio

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How do you play the waitress job properly? Everytime I run out of stamina and energy, and she has orgasm after orgasm, can't even move from table to table
 

Irradiation

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Is the final boss bugged in both CCmod and the regular version? I'm using a sex build and I've dropped his energy to 0 through orgasms for 20 minutes straight now and he keeps regenerating his energy every time like it's nothing.
 

Nazzar

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Ok. I said why what i saw strains credibility and you replied. Over and done. One thing to clarify:

For real? Why would you fight WITHOUT Items, that I have clearly equipped for a Reason? And why would you fight ever without an easy to get 9% Stat Boost? Like you are saying my run is impossible, by removing stuff. What kind of logic is that? I don't care what the Stats are, if I remove all Items, equip the worst Title and try to get a bad sleep. I only care about the end result. So sure, bring up something that is absolutly irrelevent.
No idea how you got that out of what i said. I did not in any way advocate purposefully gimping oneself for one reason or another. What I said is that I compared base, unmodified stats between my character and yours. Base=no external modifiers, be they positive or negative. Its just how you ensure an unbiased comparison.
 
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Neriel

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No idea how you got that out of what i said. I did not in any way advocate purposefully gimping oneself for one reason or another. What I said is that I compared base, unmodified stats between my character and yours. Base=no external modifiers, be they positive or negative. Its just how you ensure an unbiased comparison.
But that isn't true. You need to take everything into account. What Acc. Item you have makes a difference, one way or another. Same for Title and the sleep buff. They are Edicts after all. By that Logic, why do you look at the Training Edicts but don't count Acc. Items or Bed? Even if I had 100 Agi as Base, I would still need two Training Edicts to get +10 Agi because they only give 5% each. Just straight 10 from the Acc. Item is a much better deal for that price with the Passive Timer over the head.

This specific run, I could not pick other 4 Acc. Items and it would work. It is made in mind with those Acc. Items and when I unlock the specific Title, with the support of basically everyday 9% Stats once I get the Passive for Masturbating giving better sleep.
 
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iRoxor

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Never thought of keeping order low, since that seems like it goes against the concept of running a prison! I pretty much always had the +1 control title equipped, so I'll stop doing that. Are there any drawbacks to being slow to complete a level?

Should I be using the edicts primarily to focus on the economy of the prison? In the game I'm abandoning, I had some of the training skills unlocked, and had also bought a bracelet- is that the sort of thing you should only buy once you are making something like 1k per day?

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I just wanted to chime in real quick to give you an important game tip and I'm not sure if it was explained already:
So, not only is there a soft timer with Control constantly dipping lower and lower as each day passes, but there is also a hidden formula that increases the stats of each enemy with each passing day, which you can find in "...\Karryn's Prison\www\js\plugins\RemtairyEnemyLevel.js", Line 43-49 (code snippet below).

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It will take awhile for enemies to start really ramping up in difficulty, but because this is also a constantly-rising difficulty scaling that doesn't reset until you Game Over or New Game+, it will make it so that the final floors are very difficult if you farm for too long in the early floors.
In the past, I have edited the percentage values (from 0.5 -> 0.05, from 0.33 -> 0.033, etc.) when testing out some stuff and noticed an extreme difference on a high-numbered Day; the enemies become so laughably easy even on the last floor. The scaling truly doesn't stop from what I can tell from the code, so you really are pushed to speedrun through the floors as efficiently as possible if you're trying to do a Pure run (or at least attempt Prisoner difficulty).

There is also an in-game tip about something along the lines of Named enemies growing in difficulty after you defeat them in battle, so be wary of that, they can get pretty ridiculous.
 
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DevonRayMun

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Unless a game is specifically about pregnancy, it should always be an option that you can turn off. I have absolutely zero interest in pregnancy in a game, but I know others do like it. Things like that should always be optional.
Bruh he is asking about the CCmod, not the base game.

And to answer that question, yes. But the goth mod is not working 100% because in 1.0 a lot of cut-ins and new cgs are added.
 

Assassin3

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Well, sure if that was true. This claim of low 50 Stats is a lie. And that run was legit. You guys want me now to do a vid or what?
Nah u good man. I believe u(y) Fucking insane how u r able to speed run the game in a way on prisoner mode like it's nothing. Really just shows the amount time u invested towards the game for how it's truly played in a professional manner. As a gamer u have my full respect.
 
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OffPathGames

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You can on dlsite but it's censored, and I don't think they offer a patch to uncensor it.
You can't get it from subscribestar either. Only steam.
Fun fact, it's actually illegal in Japan (and a couple other Asian countries) to offer an uncensored version, even to foreign markets. Steam is based in the US so he can get away with it, but on DLSite, any JP language stuff would be clearly in violation.
 
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