I think there is the issue with your Strategy. Loosing on purpose. Slut build on Prisoner Mode works perfectly fine, as long as you don't give away control and just hope it works out, which Defeat Battles are and you are punishing yourself on the next day, with usually bad sleep and no Halberd (which sure, weapon is not important in a Slut run but still).
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It would be nice if it was a toggle that just drained willpower per turn, agreed. Feels a bit repetitive and silly to have to actively do it every single turn, especially now that Pleasure Stance can be multi-turned.
As for initiating sex, it can be a bit tricky even with the above mentioned sex skills, so I see your point. I think the game lacks a dominative/submissive stat currently - the closest it comes is sadism/masochism, which aren't necessarily a 1:1 correlation. I'm personally totally into submissive women so for me it would be a non-brainer which path I'd choose, but having that as option would be interesting regardless.
Slutty prisoner mode runs pretty much require one or two "bad ends" to build up some steam before it gets going, or alternatively simply cheating with some edicts and funding early on.
You will have a relatively good sleep if you win (persevere) the punishment 'battle' (blowbang in the Bar or chained gangbang in the Gym). By loosing a battle on level 1 and allowing the inmates to use Karryn's mouth, she can improve on her oral skills fast. Of course, after she becomes an experienced cum-slurping cocksucker (or experienced enough that she's now armed with a blowjob action), there is little to no point losing battles on that level... unless the player enjoys that particular blowbang scene... which is much more enjoyable than the standing handjob loop. The same applies to honing other lewd skills. For example, if you want the Warden to be a derierre-oriented little painslut that enjoys receiving spankings, the best way to improve in that reargard is to max out your butt allure and give up in front of a thug or several thugs and assume pleasure stance. With enough butt desire he will be spanking her silly and as thugs are not that quick to have their goods serviced, more often than not they will be just spanking and breast-molesting her without going any further. Three or four such sessions and you have all the butt slapping passives achieved. And after she cums, instead of restoring willpower, it is better to take a postorgasmic blissful breath to restore some stamina, just enough to put thug's cock in her mouth (provided she already possess the blowjob action), so she may thank them properly for punishing her naughty bottom and reshaping her udders. Pretty neat submissive slutty combo that employs purposeful defeatism.
You don't have a good sleep after a lost battle. Dunno what you are talking about. On top of that after masturbation, you have a great sleep. Improving Oral fast is nice and all but I could improve everything at the same time, so once again, you are giving away control for one specific thing. Sure if you only want her to be Oral focused it might work but even then, you don't have control, so if another Desire gets to high, that you don't want, well tough luck. And I am not talking about scenes themselves. Guard Defeat Battle is one of my Fav Scenes in the game, so sure if I want to see that scene I just go for it, but I am talking here about a serious Slut Build. Also Pleasure Stance is not a Defeat Battle Scene? So that point is useless. With Pleasure Stance you are in control in a Battle.
I mean full slut mode, no physical combat. I don't think you can clear the first floor in time before order screws you up. At least I don't know how.
Well, no combat ofc is impossible, since at the start you can only win battles via combat. But what has that to do with anything? Your point was, that a Slutty Prisoner Mode run is not possible without some Bad Ends or cheating?
My point is that in order for you to build a completely slutty Karryn build on prisoner mode with all the negative aspects that entails and still survive, you need the advantages that bad ends carry over, such as titles and records. It might be possible without that if you're extremely patient and savescum each battle, but I don't consider it plausible.
And you can win the very first fight without swinging your weapon once. It's more about the limitations of multiphase fights like in the bar and the final fight on the floor that puts pressure on a prisoner slutty build, since you don't have access to the sustainability that a highend slut build gets you.
Well that is my point. You don't. No patients and savescuming required. Because it takes much longer to get all Titles and Passives in the runs before, then to start from scratch and get them. Never understood that argument, as if the runs you do before, aren't taking a lot of time. Well and yes you can win the first Battle without using your weapon, but that takes a lot of time? I start to see, why you think, it is so time consuming and impossible. Because you just never want to use your weapon. So sure, then it is impossible but if you are using it correctly at the start, you can quickly get the necessary Passives, to switch to fight without Weapon. And why would you even fight in the bar? The game even tells you not to. Sure you can, and it is very beatable but seems like an unnecassray risk.
There is a lost battle and there is a lost Day. When you lose a battle mid-Day, the men take you to a 'punishment' area, right? It's Bar Storage on Lv 1 and Gym's chain room on Lv 3, is that correct? Your desires and arousal stats are transferred to the punishment session, but not your stamina, energy and willpower, which are fully refreshed in accordance with your current fatigue. I am not sure if this is true in Prison Mode as I haven't played on this difficulty level yet, but it is true for Secretary mode. Thus, you have a high chance of actually winning the punishment session that brings back a few points of order, after which Karryn sleeps in the punishment room and receives a certain amount of refreshment. Her arousal also drops down. Not as much as if she slept in her Office or a Guard Station but on easier modes it's enough to be alert and fresh the following day and start sweeping the corridors again half-assedly. If your control decay is in low -3 to -5, you only need to win 3 to 5 battle waves before you can safely take a dive and be taught another lesson or two by those muscular savages. If this was a silly strategy, the game would not offer you an option to give up and then surrender completely. It's as if somehow the devilish devs want the Warden to lose and loosen up. Descent into the profoundest depths of depravity seems to be the end goal.
Again, I am not sure if this is sustainable on Prison mode but on Secretary it's a walk in the park.
Of course, it pays off to subdue level 1 eventually, so you may repair the bar and reception, gaining two new lewd activities and sources of income and notoriety. The upcoming update should make subjugation of Level 2 worthwhile with the expected Gloryhole job. Level 3 will have a Strip club and there are still two levels to be implemented. This will surely change the balance of the game and probably make it harder to farm experience by losing on purpose. But as it is, you can unlock a lot of lewd content fast by playing 'poorly'.
Well you can try that Strategy in Prisoner Mode, I highly doubt it will work at all but ofc you don't have to. Play what is fun for you because that is only what counts in the end.
Yes, but there are people that just Alt+F4, if something happens, they don't want before the game has a chance to save.
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Yeah it is. That's how I save myself from losing too much order if I end up losing a battle. The one thing I didn't know in the past was that after that session it was a new day, and because of how low her stats were I just went to sleep, thus wasting an entire day and losing order.
Exactly! Porn games especially should be enjoyable first and foremost. Which doesn't mean I am not going to try my slut's luck on Prisoner Mode eventually. I only discovered this game last weekend, so still figuring it out.
As regards the Halberd, it's about as useful to a slutty Karryn as a saddle on a pig. I wish there was an option to unlock and purchase different sets of uniforms or sex toys/accessories, like a latex ponygirl outfit for example, equipped with a tight armbinder, a spreader gag and a pighole buttplug, so she cannot get stuck in those boring handjob loops anymore. And to make up for lost use of limbs, her orifice desires could be further raised to 300+, so she may give double-oral/anal/pussy.
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Right after I criticize the stifling removal of diversity you accuse me of wanting "the same". Not funny.
Exactly. "Fighter Build" is an excuse to not like something. How do I know? Self-reflection. The game is literally pushing Karryn into Slut Mode regardless of what you do: you go for sex - Slut (obviously), you go for battles - Sadism and Masochism, and that is a one-way street. In other words, it is not designed for long-term sessions (yet) as the end result is the same. And no, I never ended up in that situation, somehow survived until Surrender skill without that.
Precisely the goal, as was hinted at by my initial post on the issue.
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You gain order even when you lose battles. And you gain far for order by lewd engaging the prisoners than by regular combat.
If you grind to get the available titles your life will be very easy. I assume this game is intended to be played several times so you can unlock the tittles.
And yes you can be sucessfull without using combat skills but you'll have to lose a couple of times. If you want to act first then you'll have to work your agility. If your agility is high enough (as long as you are not tired) your action is always the first to take place plus some of the new/rebalanced passives allow you to do the sex skills first regardless of your agility level, you just need to work on that skill passives.
End of the line this only works if you have an understanding of the game mechanics, and you only get that by playing.
If you grind to get the available titles your life will be very easy. I assume this game is intended to be played several times so you can unlock the tittles.
And yes you can be sucessfull without using combat skills but you'll have to lose a couple of times. If you want to act first then you'll have to work your agility. If your agility is high enough (as long as you are not tired) your action is always the first to take place plus some of the new/rebalanced passives allow you to do the sex skills first regardless of your agility level, you just need to work on that skill passives.
End of the line this only works if you have an understanding of the game mechanics, and you only get that by playing.
What kind of diversity? You were only complaining about, that you cannot just wait around forever. Yeah great "gameplay" to just wait. And I don't even want to know, what you mean with the Control/Order change, if you complain about something removed from the game, that was not healthy gameplay wise and added as a Skill down the line, if you have a Sluty Character and it actually makes sence, to just let things happen.
Uh... what? Yes, you will get some passives. But that was always the case, that is nothing new. Yes, Karryn will no matter what develop certain fetishes. But in no way is the end result the same. You can do low Slut Level runs no problem and never get even groped at all.
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