sunstun

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That hasn't been my experience. They've always asked Karryn to drink, no matter what her clothes are like. Of course they ask more when she's fully exposed since asking her to flash isn't an option anymore.
I only noticed it in the last version 7B, though I've only tested it in that version and 8. Also it was specifically drunk inmates that wouldn't ask you to drink. Sober inmates would still ask.
It was honestly a neat little mechanic to discover, since in that version mind recovered slower when you denied drinks. So if the entire table was drunk you could "allow drinks" while there to recover more mind. But with the way mind currently works it'd just make the bar job easier.
 

arucard34

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was playing the 0.8 o version the normal one runs smoothly but with the cc mod, sorry i don't know how to install it so i downloaded the 0.8 o version with the mod installed that was in the past threads and it slow in some scenes and loading times again this is not happening with the normal 0.8 o but with the mod one just putting this info here xD
 

ADAS20

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I got a masochistic passive when I had 12 but I don't have 13 now and I do not have the Masochism title. What happened?
 

yyunus

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What are the disadvantages of Frustate and Horny effects for virgin run? Can you explain both? Also is masturbation a problem for virgin run?
 

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What are the disadvantages of Frustate and Horny effects for virgin run? Can you explain both? Also is masturbation a problem for virgin run?
You can mouseover the Frustrated and Horny icons and the game will tell you what they do. Briefly, Frustrated increases attack but lowers other stats, Horny increases desire gains.

Anything that increases Karryn's desires can be dangerous for a virgin run because if they go too high the prisoners can trigger a sex scene depending on what type of desires Karryn has. To keep Karryn's desires low you want to keep her as unexperienced with sex as possible, so too much masturbation can be a problem. The only long term benefit of masturbation would be that it can be a safe way of getting Karryn to orgasm, as Karryn gets used to orgasms she starts losing less energy when it happens (which can happen in a virgin run as she gains sadistic passives).
 
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You can mouseover the Frustrated and Horny icons and the game will tell you what they do. Briefly, Frustrated increases attack but lowers other stats, Horny increases desire gains.

Anything that increases Karryn's desires can be dangerous for a virgin run because if they go too high the prisoners can trigger a sex scene depending on what type of desires Karryn has. To keep Karryn's desires low you want to keep her as unexperienced with sex as possible, so too much masturbation can be a problem. The only long term benefit of masturbation would be that it can be a safe way of getting Karryn to orgasm, as Karryn gets used to orgasms she starts losing less energy when it happens (which can happen in a virgin run as she gains sadistic passives).
A virgin in this game means no vaginal penetration (by live dick or toy), so only keeping pussy desire below 100 is required for Karryn to remain a virgin. She can have any other type of sex all day any day. Also, there is no connection between her virginity and sadism or masochism.
 
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manscout

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A virgin in this game means no vaginal penetration (by live dick or toy), so only keeping pussy desire below 100 is required for Karryn to remain a virgin. She can have any other type of sex all day any day. Also, there is no connection between her virginity and sadism or masochism.
Sadism increases Karryn's pleasure when she attacks -> high pleasure causes horny and decreases willpower regen -> pussy desire goes up -> RIP virgin run

I'm not saying you can't do a "virgin-slut" playthrough, but it is much more likely to go south than just keeping Karryn's desires in check overall. If you get too many passives and you're getting groped by a lot of opponents while trying to give handjobs and then getting stunned for a turn because Karryn orgasmed, it just creates a lot of gaps in your "just keep pussy desire low" strat.
 
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Hey so, how do save files work for this game? tried putting some save files onto the saves folder but the game can't seem to locate them. Any idea on what's causing this?
 

xellos49698

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Hey so, how do save files work for this game? tried putting some save files onto the saves folder but the game can't seem to locate them. Any idea on what's causing this?
You need to start a new game and choose a save slot first, then you can use an existing save.
 

madchef

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Sadism increases Karryn's pleasure when she attacks -> high pleasure causes horny and decreases willpower regen -> pussy desire goes up -> RIP virgin run

I'm not saying you can't do a "virgin-slut" playthrough, but it is much more likely to go south than just keeping Karryn's desires in check overall. If you get too many passives and you're getting groped by a lot of opponents while trying to give handjobs and then getting stunned for a turn because Karryn orgasmed, it just creates a lot of gaps in your "just keep pussy desire low" strat.
A virgin slut run is very easy, barely an inconvenience. Just reconsider your concept of virgin from an attacking, reluctant handjob giving 'sadistic' Warden to a submissive ultra slut who's offering everything to the prisoners and guards... everything bar her pussy. Such Karryn doesn't get groped, but puts cocks up her ass from the get go, while her mouth is constantly sucking dick if its not busy tossing salad. Too many passives and orgasms is exactly what the good doctor ordered, as orgasm related passives greatly diminish chances of bliss. You just need to work for it.
 

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Sadism increases Karryn's pleasure when she attacks -> high pleasure causes horny and decreases willpower regen -> pussy desire goes up -> RIP virgin run

I'm not saying you can't do a "virgin-slut" playthrough, but it is much more likely to go south than just keeping Karryn's desires in check overall. If you get too many passives and you're getting groped by a lot of opponents while trying to give handjobs and then getting stunned for a turn because Karryn orgasmed, it just creates a lot of gaps in your "just keep pussy desire low" strat.
if you get the one item that reduces pussy desire generation by 66% it's really easy to always keep it below 50 no matter what else you're doing in the run.
 
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manscout

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A virgin slut run is very easy, barely an inconvenience. Just reconsider your concept of virgin from an attacking, reluctant handjob giving 'sadistic' Warden to a submissive ultra slut who's offering everything to the prisoners and guards... everything bar her pussy. Such Karryn doesn't get groped, but puts cocks up her ass from the get go, while her mouth is constantly sucking dick if its not busy tossing salad. Too many passives and orgasms is exactly what the good doctor ordered, as orgasm related passives greatly diminish chances of bliss. You just need to work for it.
I will take your word for it. The original context was just asking about a virgin run and I personally think the game is short enough that a sadistic ass-kicking Karryn is less work than grinding the passives needed for a virgin-slut, but you are right that it would work just fine if you got passives that helped resist the negative effects of sex and made Karryn's other sex bits more available.

I think that we can both agree there aren't half-measures though, you either commit to training your Karryn to be a sex-machine that doesn't use her pussy or you try to make her be not interested in sex at all. Or you can just get the accessory Yukariin mentioned, forgot that one existed and it would make it really easy to never be exposed with high pussy desire.
 

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I will take your word for it. The original context was just asking about a virgin run and I personally think the game is short enough that a sadistic ass-kicking Karryn is less work than grinding the passives needed for a virgin-slut, but you are right that it would work just fine if you got passives that helped resist the negative effects of sex and made Karryn's other sex bits more available.

I think that we can both agree there aren't half-measures though, you either commit to training your Karryn to be a sex-machine that doesn't use her pussy or you try to make her be not interested in sex at all. Or you can just get the accessory Yukariin mentioned, forgot that one existed and it would make it really easy to never be exposed with high pussy desire.
The game is actually supposed to be a repeatable experience involving a hefty amount of grinding, and is geared towards ultimately turning the Warden into a sex-machine, virgin or not, submissive rather than dominant. Yes, the Amazon run may be a faster run, but that also means missing at least half of the game's content, compared to sub-slut run. There are no 'sadistic' victory scenes for Karryn, only defeat ones, which are putting her in progressively submissive positions (blowbang, human urinal, restrained gangbang in solitary cell, pillory gangbang with spanking...). There is scarcity of undeniably sadistic sex moves compared to the arsenal that a maso slut Karryn can have and use to win 'battles' just by sexually pleasing the prisoners. Titjobs and handjobs are just unconvincing as sadistic acts. 90% of the available passives are sex-machine building blocks. Possibly 50% of available edicts are Prison-to-whorehouse re-decorating blocks.

Even when equipped with the Pearl Ring (the accessory Yukariin mentioned), Karryn needs to keep on suppressing her pussy desire if she wants to remain a virgin, so this can be a fun and frustrating challenge even for ultra-slut runs.

So yes, there are two routes possible in this game: an honest slut and a slut-in-denial. ;)
 

annam

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Is there a way to unlock release desires without having to max out all desires and the sex partner requirement?
 
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