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droglob

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Here's the mod download link, for those of you who need it!
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Huh? How do i use this? I installed it but it's just the regular CGs when i go to the bathroom. Is it not compatible with fast cut ins? Does it need any other things? The instructions don't mention any requirements. Is it for the previous version of the game or some shit? Did the guynjust write H Cupmeaning the DLC and not the option?
 

Rhogog

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I don't really follow this game's development history so I don't have any comment on that. However I've seen many people say this statement, how this hgame is the best hgame out there and I genuinely don't understand how.

The first time I played this hgame on easy mode and completed it I was like "Ok", it was a decently good hgame, a 6.5/10. But then the biggest problem surfaced when I tried the harder difficulties, how this hgame was actually smeared with tons of RNG and mind-numbing grind that completely spoiled my enjoyment of the H content. The amount of clicks I had to do during H-combat and side job was something I've never experienced in any other games. Instead of my dick, I felt like my soul was the one being sucked dry as I try to desperately end the misery of repeating the same stuff over and over again. That bar side job for example was pure hell on steroid and it didn't get any better even after installing those mods.

The H content is certainly good but it's completely spoiled by the horrendous game mechanics. This hgame is far from being the best hgame. But eh, if people can still enjoy the sex scenes despite the mind-numbing-grind-fiesta then good for them. I gave this hgame like 7 chances but 6 out of them, I gave up. The grind and RNG is simply too much for my taste.
Just curious, what would you say is the best H game?
 

RLJFZ

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Just curious, what would you say is the best H game?
The answer to this is very subjective. There's no objective answer as to what is best. For some, their best hgame could be MGQ, for others it could be any of the Rance series, some others is Karryn's Prison, for me it's LonaRPG. LonaRPG doesn't have much when it comes to sex but the mechanics in this hgame is some of the deepest, most complex yet simple I've seen in any RPGmaker/H games I've played. I'm someone who look more for hgames that got a deeper game mechanics with the sex being an option, so LonaRPG fits the criteria quite well for me. Taking aside the devs questionable antics, there's so many things I could praise about this hgame, like having a dynamic AI NPCs where you can have them fight among each other, zero need to grind to get things done, so on and so on.
 

Kuroimi95

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I dont know if Rem had a budget on advertising, but he put the game as "finished" and "completed" (arguably) right at that time, helped it quickly gained attraction and attention over other many "ongoing" projects, which been quite awhile, since the world began, been known as lackluster money scams (many of them at least), as you know it. I remember woke up that morning and Karryn's Prison was everywhere.
I don't really see the problem with that? The game was a complete experience back in 2021, even with the cut content.
Now, of course, I'm not a fan of how much content they've cut, especially for floor 4 (IIRC), but a lot of games release with cut content that never sees the day, especially Hgames. Is it bad? Maybe.

You are comparing Karryn Prison to other low tier weaker quicker buck bowrser VNs. Proper Corruption mechanics, multiple endings, RPG mechanics and all wasnt new, it's wasnt uncommon, it's been done before. and any decent games do build it properly, Let's not pretend Karryn is the only one.
I'm not comparing Karryn's Prison to "low tier weaker quicker buck browser VNs", I literally said "most corruption games".
Also, no, unique mechanics was, and still is, a rare occurrence, look at actually released RPG Maker games for example, there's like 80% of them that are either the classic RPG Maker gameplay, battle fuck that works exactly like the classic RPG Maker gameplay, or simple CG galleries.

Karryn Prison wouldnt survive with that triple A price tag if it was released last year. You have to admit it there are objectively way better things to spend 30 bucks (40 with dlcs) and 500 hours now, on steam at least, moving on from 2020, not talking only about hgame, or adult products in general.
30 bucks isn't a AAA price tag, what are you even talking about?
Most big indie games are around 20-40 bucks, AAA price tag is 60-70 bucks, sometimes even more, and let's not talk about DLCs, or else we could easily go to 100 bucks or more.
If you want some comparison, you could go to DLsite and filter by pricetag between 3001-5000 JPY, .
Also, Karryn's Prison doesn't need 500 hours to clear, most people would probably do only one ending, maybe two.

Meltys Quest was a way smaller and less popular game, Dev team would get experience from it to make a better game, but not the preference of wider audiences, also the market is no longer like what it was at Karryn's release.
Even if the market "changed", like you said, Karryn's Prison would still sell, it's a big polished game with unique mechanics, a good artstyle, and a lot of content.
Also, Meltys Quest is very different, yes, but it still helps with their popularity. People who liked Meltys Quest would very likely want to try out their next game, it's the same with literally every game company.

Since we're talking about sales, might as well include numbers.
According to DLsite, which have the highest confirmed sales for both games (by that I mean that it's the only place we have actual numbers, since Steam doesn't show sales numbers afaik) :
sold at least 19,619 copies
sold at least 45,521 copies
 

Kunt

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No, no VN, 3DCG crap or Unreal Scam Engine shit made since then counts because they are all scams or generic. They existed before KP and they exist now in the exact same way.

I can name one game made since then that really surprised me with how good it was and that's The Pilgrimage, which is a Renpy game about Tali from Mass Effect. However, as great as that game is and as exemplary as that dev is i can't say it blows KP away because it's unfortunately still one of those games where you have to do the counterintuitive (wrong) things to see the porn, the gameplay is not as good as KP and it has my personal pet peeve of locking content behind different player options (which is in line with Mass Effect but i hate it in porn).

The importance of properly integrating porn in your game can't be overstated. It's baffling how so few games strive to do it at all much less do it right.
How about tales of androgyny or tower of trample?
 

Purple_Heart

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No, Sachi made the game, English version was done by Rem.
I've updated my post with the link. You should read the note in KP as well.
What the hell is this "Happy Life" then?
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Also, if Sachi can make a game on his own, why did we wait for big breasts dlc for so long(when Rem got sick, depressed for no reason, fell into black hole and couldn't work on the game)?
I have so many questions...
 

RedAISkye

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Kuroimi95

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There's also this comment, which explain a bit more what Sachi and Remtairy did (there's no info on whether or not there was more people involved tho)
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With this comment, it's very likely that Remtairy is the main dev for Karryn's Prison, while Sachi is the story/art guy, since Karryn's Prison's gameplay is much more complex than Meltys Quest
 

RedAISkye

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There's also this comment, which explain a bit more what Sachi and Remtairy did
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With this comment, it's very likely that Remtairy is the main dev for Karryn's Prison, while Sachi is the story/art guy, since Karryn's Prison's gameplay is much more complex than Meltys Quest
Happy Life is the old circle of Sachinama.

Sachi officially works with Rem together, that's why it's now under the circle Remtairy.
F95 should state developer as both Happy Life (Sachinama) and Remtairy.
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(there's no info on whether or not there was more people involved tho)
Sachi and Rem are the only people listed as authors. So there are only 2 people involved.

For KP, modders are involved on certain areas.
 
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Purple_Heart

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Did you not read the Patreon post?
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Here's Sachi's pixiv:
Thanks for the explanation. Sorry, I didn't fully read contents of link in the previous post, it was too long and I am not in the mood to read long posts nowadays so I skipped a lot of it. Its probably why I missed that detail.

Because Sachi by their own words in that patreon post stated they're an amateur game programmer.
Rem is the programmer of KP, not Sachi.
Being an amateur game programmer is enough to do what Rem did with p-cup dlc. Sachi already made a game with same engine before so he should already be familiar enough to be able to continue Rem's work(when he was sick, depressed or whatever bullshit reason/excuse he came up with in the past to delay the dlc).
 

Kuroimi95

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Being an amateur game programmer is enough to do what Rem did with p-cup dlc. Sachi already made a game with same engine before so he should already be familiar enough to be able to continue Rem's work(when he was sick, depressed or whatever bullshit reason/excuse he came up with in the past to delay the dlc).
Eeh, I don't really think it would be that easy.
I didn't really check the insides of Karryn's Prison, but at this point, I would expect it's a mess of a spaghetti code like most RPG Maker games (especially Patreon ones, and especially when it's a game with a lot of "not RPG Maker" mechanics).
You'd have to rework the whole game to even detect the P-Cup mode, for example.

Maybe if the game was thought with character customisation in mind from the start (like outfit change, hairstyles, glasses...), it would be easier, but here...
I really doubt an "amateur" programmer could make actual progress on the development of the P-Cup DLC.

Now, whether or not Rem was actually depressed/sick/whatever is another matter. Who really knows in this kind of situation, really?
But let's be honest, even if it was true, Sachi could've still make progress in other ways (finishing the writing and cg of the DLC, and/or do smaller-scale updates) to pass time while Rem is "away".

But again, who knows what really happened? Maybe Sachi actually did finish his work, or maybe Sachi was also taking some rest too, or maybe Rem didn't want Sachi to touch the "programming" part.
 

RedAISkye

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Thanks for the explanation. Sorry, I didn't fully read contents of link in the previous post, it was too long and I am not in the mood to read long posts nowadays so I skipped a lot of it. Its probably why I missed that detail.
You only had to read the title or the very first line of the post. How did you miss that? :KEK:

Being an amateur game programmer is enough to do what Rem did with p-cup dlc. Sachi already made a game with same engine before so he should already be familiar enough to be able to continue Rem's work...
Sachi worked on a very basic RPGM game meanwhile KP is significantly more complex, both with its gameplay and with how assets are handled, so I don't believe an amateur who's only done simple stuff with RPGM in the past can suddenly pick up the main programmer's complicated pile of mess.
 
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