Damn. I thought that I was the only one.... little did I know that I had comrades...
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Do you REALLY think people play these games because they like grinding OR because of the thrill of getting potentially legendary loot as rewards? I can guarantee you nothing would be changed if devs lessened the grinding. If devs had removed or replaced loot system of diablo 2 that game wouldn't even be known by anyone today.
Isn't it funny how mods that increase grinding are so rare but mods that decrease grinding are so common for any game in general? It is almost as if people aren't attracted to grinding but something else.
I've completed that game once vanilla and several times with mods. It doesn't straight up tell you how to play but if you know how to read you can easily guess which actions leads to which results. Can you say the same for, for example KP's hidden passive unlocking conditions? How are you going to read something that doesn't exist? And once you unlock a passive there is no way to remove it, but for example can you get rid of detectives in Cultist Simulator? Answer is yes, you can.
I completed the game on medium difficulty back when v1.0 was released.
Ah yes benefits such as sight resist and sex resist nerf
Pure White Stained Bride
Proof of a bride who entered Free Play Mode with a slut level over 400. (Happy End)
Passive: Warden Level Limit +1 Order -10 (Equip once to get effects for this playthrough)
Equip Effects: Charm Growth +42% Sight resist -42% Sex Resist -42%
I don't care about people's opinions. When I say grinding is objectively a bad game design and ask you to explain(if you can) why it isn't a bad game design you failed to come up with an answer other than "because opinions". Doing the same thing over and over again without getting bored is infact called Obsessive-compulsive disorder, and that's a fact.
I find it funny how this argument works for both ways. When I or someone else write something negative about the game, responses are "stop disliking things I like". When I or someone else writes something positive about the game no one is allowed to response same way and say "stop liking things I dislike".
People are heavily exaggrating this game. I already written game is average for normal game standards and good for porn game standards. Hell, I've even rated it here. You or anyone else literally cannot tell me ONE SINGLE THING about this game that objectively makes this game so good it should never be criticized and those that criticize it should be ostricized like all of you are currently doing. I've been around for a long time and ANYTIME someone criticized this game or talks about it in a slightly negative way there is always this crowd whose arguments always boils down to either "muh ratings" or "you suck, opinion discarded etc". These "arguments" are acceptable but apparently mines, which are based on facts(not feelings) aren't?
Nah I'm done. This is going in circles and I've derailed the thread and irritated the people who want to use it to actually discuss the game for far too long already.
Sorry about that everyone.
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I'm not taking sides here cause i cheat through every game i play... But i just want to add how I'm so mindblown about the fact that adults can't have a rational calm debate without some 12 year old squeeker coming in and hurling insults.
So. As a sane and logical human adult that likes reading debates, i'd like to thank Purple_Heart for atleast seemingly trying to make proper arguments meanwhile most others arguments just boils down to either insults or "BuT tHaETs lIek... YuR oPiNun MaEEn, And Iz BaEd OpinYuN" Honorary mention to yellowdart777 for also trying.
I'm saying this as someone who likes the game, if you're someone that gets triggered at others that don't like the games you like. It's alright, 2 year olds aren't expected to have an iQ Above 10. But once y'all grow up, it's gunna be a tuff time.
So. As a sane and logical human adult that likes reading debates, i'd like to thank Purple_Heart for atleast seemingly trying to make proper arguments meanwhile most others arguments just boils down to either insults or "BuT tHaETs lIek... YuR oPiNun MaEEn, And Iz BaEd OpinYuN" Honorary mention to yellowdart777 for also trying.
I'm saying this as someone who likes the game, if you're someone that gets triggered at others that don't like the games you like. It's alright, 2 year olds aren't expected to have an iQ Above 10. But once y'all grow up, it's gunna be a tuff time.
I have no idea why this debate even exists. It's not like there's something crucially bad about the game, or at least not anything that wasn't already conveyed by the developer; i.e. they said it needs patience as it takes time to do many things in this game, losing a battle doesn't mean you lose the game, new game+ exists, etc. And about reviews, you can have a overwhelmingly positively reviewed game and it can still have bad parts, that doesn't invalidate them though and the good reviews means either the bad parts aren't bad enough or the good parts satisfy them enough to ignore them. Which means the positive "i came" reviews are what you'd expect to find in a porn game since that's 90% of the purpose.
Also this guy offered an update for the game which got drowned out by this
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Just because it's conveyed by the developer doesn't mean it's excused.
As for the good reviews, Hearty dude over there already explained it's a good game... By Porn industry standards, and those coomer brained reviews reflect that. But just like with me who doesn't play the game properly, these people only play to rub their willy. If they played for the game mechanics they might have a different opinion.
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>one contrarian tries to pass his opinions as facts
>gets rightfully shut down at every turn by multiple people
It's almost as if, if literally everyone is disagreeing with you, chances are you're being dense. And he doesn't have the mental capacity to understand that.
And that's hilarious to me.
I see this as an absolute win, I don't know what the dude above is talking about. Some time ago he was whining about Karryn's tits being too large (lmfao)
>gets rightfully shut down at every turn by multiple people
It's almost as if, if literally everyone is disagreeing with you, chances are you're being dense. And he doesn't have the mental capacity to understand that.
And that's hilarious to me.
I see this as an absolute win, I don't know what the dude above is talking about. Some time ago he was whining about Karryn's tits being too large (lmfao)
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And just like that, you outed yourself as a liar and a troll.
By "dude above" I must assume you mean me, as no one else fits the criteria of your "point". And if you indeed meant me, then a quick search of my post history would reveal the one time I posted something on this sub, it was info for when the next dlc would come out. Ergo, you're a liar. Or just careless, either way not cool.
As for being a troll. You're still acting like a little kiddie thinking insults can win you an argument.
It won't, you just sound like a child.
If, by "dude above" you didn't mean me then I apologize about my second paragraph, the rest still stands.
Ok. So I'm having a bit of trouble with the CC mod. Back in the past I could easily install it to Karryn's Prison manually by just moving the www file over to the game. now however it seems the way to download the mod is much more complicated than it was before. there is 2 things I'm looking for, 1: A guide on how to download the mod manually or 2: A download of the game with the mod already in it. I would really appreciate if someone did this for me. Also for anyone that's wondering about the game not starting normally, sign out of Steam, that should start the game. Thx in advanced, and have a good day.
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> hurr durr stop criticizing a game I like
> this meme.jpg proves you are wrong
> unironically trying to use 4chan shit on other sites, even coloring the text
> "rightfully shut down"
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. Scroll down until you see "Download" section. Click download link under that section. Download it from mega. Installation should be still same, you drag and drop mod into the correct folder, that's it.
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Honestly, the only grievance I take with this at all is the idea that grinding in a video game is fundamentally bad design. There are plenty of games out there that solely rely on you grinding to improve your skills, mechanically, as a player if you wish to improve, and said game types do pretty damn well for themselves overall, enough to be still relevant gaming experiences now in 2023 as genres. MOBA's, fighting games, and most any multiplayer focused game with a competitive angle to it are HEAVILY reliant on you simply grinding out said game online to improve yourself as a player, and for no real intrinsic reward beyond just playing the game for its own enjoyment.
Naturally, I understand that doesn't exactly apply here, albeit it can to an extent, but seriously, OCD has nothing to do with enjoyment of doing what you might subjectively consider to be fun or on the flipside a repetitive and monotonous task. In fact, its pretty much the opposite, in that you typically find yourself doing irrational things and patterns out of a sense of fear, anxiety, or simply lack of an ability to embrace change. Obviously this is somewhat simplifying it, but OCD fundamentally is built on destructive or disruptive patterns that a person most likely doesn't even want to do, or know isn't good for them, but still finds themselves doing so simply out of a obsessive compulsion to do so, and in many cases, feeling worse and worse the more they stray from doing said act. Again, definitely over simplifying the issue as a whole, but no, its not a fact that Grinding or engaging with a system you enjoy over and over is considered OCD, if that were the case, engaging in something you enjoy like a hobby repeatedly, or better in this example, playing the same game over and over regardless of what it is, as that IS what repetition is, would constitute as you having OCD, and nowhere at all does that make sense.
As for grinding in an RPG being a positive, or a negative experience, it all really just comes down to how much you enjoy subjectively engaging in that system. Its really as cut and dry as that. Most games, especially multiplayer centric ones rely on some level of repetition in their gameplay loops. One of my favorite developers, in fact, basically just outright makes and tweaks the same very system for many of their games in the form of Fromsoftware, and countless people enjoy each and everyone of their titles, some even managing to play the same specific game over and over for either mastery over the game, or to simply continue enjoying it, and you could argue that the games themselves can become somewhat repetitive and grindy in their own gameplay loops. A more direct comparison if any to what we're talking about now would, in all honesty, be MMO's as a whole. Hell, one of my favorites in Classic WoW is one of the most grindy games you can play. I don't necessarily think its improved by its lack of QoL features and longer time to reach max level than pretty much any MMO that's popular on the modern market, but I still would happily prefer to engage with its grindy leveling over, the much similar, grindy end game.
All in all, really all this to say, grinding can be a really poor tool or way to increase a players playtime, but not all repetition is necessarily a grind. In Karryn's Prisons case, I don't even think its a phenomenal game in terms of its gameplay, devoid of an porn naturally, however, I think combined with it, and if you really are one for trying to play the "slow descent into losing to dick" that the game basically is, or just enjoy trying to avoid the inevitable for many without inherently aiming to do a pure playthrough, it nails that niche exceedingly well. Its also one of the few games I can say manages to, at least for me, blend gameplay with its hentai pretty seamlessly, and without it needing to be a pile of you losing to get to that point, while also still having it be a potential con in its own right, even if it doesn't have to be if you choose to simply give in and make a slut build. Doesn't hurt that it also has english voice acting, something that many hentai games simply can't compete with, and a certain polish and quality that similarly, many hentai games do happen to lack. Hell, I even think it does a decent job of providing a world for you to sandbox in, and silly in its own right, even get somewhat immersed in really, all the more improved by things like CCMod, and hell, the fact its even a fairly decently moddable experience is a pretty big plus for it compared to MOST hentai games as well, further adding a bit of replay value alone.
Obviously, I'd still say its a far cry from the pinnacle of actual hentai gaming, namely the vaunted 200-300GB modded Skyrim Install full to the brim with graphics mods, physics frameworks, and all the goodies that you can find on a site like LoversLab, but as a self contained and focused experience it does what it sets out to do quite well. Again, this isn't an attack on you or your opinion, as really, I feel saying the game is poorly made for relying on grinding is, in all honesty, probably one of its biggest common complaints and reason some dislike it. That said, a grind only becomes such when you find it unenjoyable, and its pretty clear that some either don't really mind engaging with said grind here, either due to its windowdressing and "dopamine" from getting a more lustful, or powerful Karryn in the form of levels. HELL, I'm STILL waiting for the day I can just get myself a perfect hentai Darkest Dungeon, and that games WHOLE schtick is endless repetition and mitigation of RNG, and its also probably among some of the most beloved indie games there is despite how repetitive it is.
To further boil this all down though, game isn't objectively bad for one disliking it, or not even liking its more repetitive elements, however, its just as equally not objectively good either, it simply falls into how well the game appeals to you fundamentally on how good it is, and personally, I really don't even find its grind to be all that insane in the grand scheme of things, unless you're just purposefully attempting to lose over and over to become a full on slut, then yeah, it most definitely does become grindy, all the more if the entertainment provided by the game doesn't dress up and distract from the repetition you're engaging in to reach your end goal.
I'll help! [Insert side of argument you disagree with] is being a nazi, just as bad as Hilter.
Seriously, at this point I've put a few reports in due to the flamewar shit that's going on here. It'd be better to just accept that other people have different opinions, regardless of the amount of facts and "facts" you bring to your side. Just calm down and stop posting, since at this point there's likely at least some trolls on both sides fanning the flames.
I know I'm not the best at stopping posting in an online discussion / argument, but seriously just stop.
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That's a lot of text from someone who doesn't have my respect. I wasn't referring to you; who even are you lol? Carry on, troll.
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