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ThatHero

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May 28, 2021
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While it's true the game never has a proper tutorial and nothing ever explained to you, on purpose, because the game really isnt that big, that complex, which Rem really been trying to hide and acting like there actually more to it than it shows. After at most 20 hours in you more or less mastered the game, before you even get to level 4 on your very first run, you can already tell what you did right or wrong in a current run and how it will go and end. What's left for the next 300 hours is to fight is the RGP with odds stacked against you.
I mean, what games are you actually playing for that long if you're not enjoying the experience? It's not like the game is forcing you to put 100+ hours into it to see everything. The game is also not hard unless you want it to be, so the odds being against you is really up to your discretion.

Once you've gotten both the Happy End and Empress End + unlocked all of the sidejobs, you've effectively seen everything. All that's left after that is the core gameplay loop with new runs and different approaches to the game. At that point, it shouldn't be any different from how we play any other arcade-type games on repeat. Unless you're super stubborn with how you play, you should hit both endings in under 30 hours and I expect most people to stop playing around then.

As an aside, critiques and criticisms are perfectly warranted, but I feel like some of what gets said here goes way beyond that.
 

Purple_Heart

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Oct 15, 2021
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the odds being against you is really up to your discretion
It is not really up to the player because game is heavily rigged against them. Whole game is based around the idea of artificially extending longevity of the game through using underhanded tactics against the player. This is why you never actually see "odds" in the game and why everything is described as vaguely as possible, not just during battles but also during "management" parts of the game. This is also the reason why game doesn't display crucial information such as damage previews, turn orders, numeric buff/debuff descriptions...
 

ThatHero

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May 28, 2021
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It is not really up to the player because game is heavily rigged against them. Whole game is based around the idea of artificially extending longevity of the game through using underhanded tactics against the player. This is why you never actually see "odds" in the game and why everything is described as vaguely as possible, not just during battles but also during "management" parts of the game. This is also the reason why game doesn't display crucial information such as damage previews, turn orders, numeric buff/debuff descriptions...
The game has its own rules in place. Whether we agree with how those rules are balanced or not is up to each person, but there is a clear way that things work once you understand the system. Really, only the first run is "rigged" b/c you don't have a baseline to go off for how the game functions. It only stays like that if you don't try to engage with the majority of the tools in the game.

As for how vague things are, I agree with you. If we could see the nitty gritty of how things worked without needing to pop the hood on the game, that would be much better for everyone. The majority of the playerbase is never going to need that information just to finish the game so it's not really an issue imo, but it's a nice QoL thing to have in any game. I can't hold that specifically against KP or any game not having that extra info, though, unless knowing said info is absolutely mandatory for completing a game.

As I've said before, my issue is mostly with the game lacking good guiding tools. There are no suggestions of any kind for what combinations of edicts or accessories would be good investments for different approaches to the game. A lot of games don't do that, but I think KP would have benefitted from more in-game guidance considering it's an H-game. Most people aren't here for a challenge.
 

Roarie

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Feb 13, 2020
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This game (unmooded)really burns me out boys, between enemies one-shooting you in the third floor, the grind. I can't progress at all past that level and I haven't been forcing my way torought the game...I've been looking at the tips the game like when they tell you about not being a jack-of-all-trades and such. I uninstall, reinstall and now life gives you no time to play the game anymore like before. And now I feel like a bitch for ranting man,the burn out is real with this game OR maybe I should just use mods eh?
It's pretty straightforward once you know all the pitfalls.

1) Don't play above Warden difficulty.

2) Buy income edicts before control. Buy control edicts such that you can farm up to ~50 order (high order makes combat encounters weaker).

3) Buy cheap combat stat accessories. Buy the additional skill in your color. Farm one color xp on purpose.

4) Playing like this does take hours of playtime, I won't deny it. Secretary is easier and safer.
 
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Bimbo Barbie

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This game (unmooded)really burns me out boys, between enemies one-shooting you in the third floor, the grind. I can't progress at all past that level and I haven't been forcing my way torought the game...I've been looking at the tips the game like when they tell you about not being a jack-of-all-trades and such. I uninstall, reinstall and now life gives you no time to play the game anymore like before. And now I feel like a bitch for ranting man,the burn out is real with this game OR maybe I should just use mods eh?
Try an Endurance + Stamina build, and keep combat low. Then don't focus on sexual activities and try to remain pure. You'll need to get a STR lv1 and Dex lv1 buff to get access to their moves, but in general that's all oyu need to make it till the end. Just optimize making money (so do guard fights every day, except for the first 2-3 days since they will beat you and you will receive early passives, and you want to avoid as many passives early on as possible). You can still do all the mini-games, just wait things out 'breathers' if you feel at risk, and you should do reception to manage your order so you can progress days without needing to constantly fight. Then have as many days passed before going to the next level, and you'll optimize your edicts (since you optimized making money).

Buy accesoiries that prevent the foes from groping you, and when needed to use you for sex.
Choose Breast as the option at the start that auto-fills over time, and choose anus as your most sensitive part. Then make sure your literal butt is protected with accesoiries :)
They can't hurt you much when your breasts are the one stat you need to leave unprotected so you can use stamina to guard others.

You attack 'never' with taunt, and you make sure you avoid using sex-skills until the enenmies actually succeeded in forcing themselves on you to the point you are at risk, then you start giving handjobs.

You use the toilet, and just rest there as well. Hell, you can even do stripjob by the time you unlock it, just don't do it evreyday, and make sure you focus on reaching the end-fight as soon as level 4 becomes optional. Which means, make sure your level is maxed out before going to the boss.

Let me re-itterate that. YOU WAIT TILL YOUR LEVEL IS MAXED OUT ?BEFORE YOU DO ANY BOSS!
(Somehow it seems like I need to remind people this is an RPG-game, but you won't believe how many times I see people noticing they rush the bosses and expect to just win).

This is the long and steady way to beat the game on Warden mode, that also allows you to have fun with the minigames. Even when the endbosses destroy you in fights (whihc, if you max out the days before you go there becomes more and more likely as everything gets stronger over time), you will easily jerk them off and beat them game.
 
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waffel

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My counter argument is every single build is bad, everything you do eventually leads to dead ends and you either grind it like a mobilephone game for hundreds of hours, the way Rem intended, or cheese the hell out of it.
I would say, in regards to karryn's Prison, it is not the destination that is important, it's the journey towards it. All those journeys make the game special.

You have a lot of agency in how you want to go, but every path is not equally easy, sometimes the path you wanna go is difficult and filled with jungle, and you lost your machette a long the way.

I like that the game has set up some base rules, no matter what, this is what the game tries to achieve, and then you can explore your possiblities to reach the end point differently. Beat the game in different ways, and explore how to both circumvent and exploit what the game has in store :)
 

Fibbers

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Losing virginity is pretty anti-climatic. I expected some special dialogues or something but you have to lose it to random peeps, unless I don't know something.
 
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Evil Earthworm Jim

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Losing virginity is pretty anti-climatic. I expected some special dialogues or something but you have to lose it to random peeps, unless I don't know something.
She comments on it during the scene; It's usually something to the effect of "I can't believe I've lost what I was saving for the emporer." I also think she references the enemy type. It's not a ground shaking event however, if that's what your looking for.
 
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slowpersun

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May 30, 2017
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CC mod, doesn't works with newest boob size though
Does this new boob size mod add any other content? If not, I am happy with the standard boba size. Does the link in the first page come with this boba size dlc installed?
It's too bad there isn't a mod (CC or not) that just integrates the differing boob size options directly into the game; almost as surprising as the devs bothering to add variations but I get it, devs are just trying to please the customer base.
 

misakik1

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Jan 14, 2020
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I finally managed to finish a masochist-slut run. It's very boring and grindy... not as fun as I thought it would be. Later boss fights can't be beat by just lying on the ground as the boss won't initiate sex attack, so you have initiate sex yourself but it's not always easy to do (the last one can one-shot me right after healing, which kinda soft-locks) I'd even say it's harder than my previous virgin run.

Still not sure how am I supposed to enjoy the game... I never had time to enjoy side jobs as the risk of having multiple riots on later stages are too high for me to waste fatigues on things doesn't help progressing.
 

RLJFZ

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I finally managed to finish a masochist-slut run. It's very boring and grindy... not as fun as I thought it would be. Later boss fights can't be beat by just lying on the ground as the boss won't initiate sex attack, so you have initiate sex yourself but it's not always easy to do (the last one can one-shot me right after healing, which kinda soft-locks) I'd even say it's harder than my previous virgin run.

Still not sure how am I supposed to enjoy the game... I never had time to enjoy side jobs as the risk of having multiple riots on later stages are too high for me to waste fatigues on things doesn't help progressing.
I'm in the same boat. I tried really hard to see how I could enjoy this game at higher difficulty but it was impossible. The heavy repetitive grind felt like I was doing some irl job instead of playing a game. The only way I could somewhat enjoy this game is to play it on low difficulty, aka ignoring the game mechanics that force me to grind and just enjoy the H scene.
 
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HentaiGnome

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I finally managed to finish a masochist-slut run. It's very boring and grindy... not as fun as I thought it would be. Later boss fights can't be beat by just lying on the ground as the boss won't initiate sex attack, so you have initiate sex yourself but it's not always easy to do (the last one can one-shot me right after healing, which kinda soft-locks) I'd even say it's harder than my previous virgin run.

Still not sure how am I supposed to enjoy the game... I never had time to enjoy side jobs as the risk of having multiple riots on later stages are too high for me to waste fatigues on things doesn't help progressing.
Thanks for the heads up. I'm currently trying to do a masochist run as well and I've never beaten the game yet (I've found myself restarting several times due to hitting 0 order lol), so the warning about the final boss is very much appreciated. I think what I'm gonna do is continue the masochist run, but start going into the sadist route as if Karryn's undergoing an evolution of her broken psyche. My head-canon is that after hitting a deep end of masochism she just lives and breathes sex, and that she now initiates jumping from dick to dick instead of waiting for them to plow her.

The reality of course is that because of the way this game is designed Karryn's accidentally gotten a few sadist points even though I've tried to get her to do the masochistic route as much as possible, and based on your warning about the final boss it seems like it might be difficult, if not impossible, to do a 100% completely pure masochist run anyway.
 
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