Purple_Heart

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All it is, is people claiming, without any real proof, that the updated images "look like AI".

There's no real proof of them using AI for the CG updates, just people not liking / wanting the CG updates. Claiming something is AI art is pretty much the modern version of claiming art is traced without showing what it was traced from.

Note that the hands / feet looking "wrong" isn't a guarantee that it's AI, just one indicator. Many artists (including professional artists) are terrible at drawing hands / feet already.
You will never get proof unless:
  • someone hacks developer
  • developer admits to using ai
And both are unlikely to happen.
 

RedAISkye

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All it is, is people claiming, without any real proof, that the updated images "look like AI".

There's no real proof of them using AI for the CG updates, just people not liking / wanting the CG updates. Claiming something is AI art is pretty much the modern version of claiming art is traced without showing what it was traced from.

Note that the hands / feet looking "wrong" isn't a guarantee that it's AI, just one indicator. Many artists (including professional artists) are terrible at drawing hands / feet already.
Artists may use AI to assist their work, nothing wrong with that.
(Unless if they're just directly using the generated art which would be a different thing.)

The problem is NOT making such cosmetic change as optional, so there's no way to switch back to the old style if you prefer that.
 
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sifena7986

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You will never get proof unless:
  • someone hacks developer
  • developer admits to using ai
And both are unlikely to happen.
  • if you look at the layers in the game, they are very granular. Eyes on one layer, mouth on the other, boobs, tie, hair, etc. It would be a lot of work to crop out everything to such small pieces
  • with AI it would be hard to generate layers that would be consistent with other layers and overall style.
  • people who used AI know, that it doesn't support transparency. So you won't be able to generate transparent layers, that has been replaced during redrawing work.
All above indicates that it won't be worth it unless you really bad at drawing or really good with AI
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P.S. And fact that people already have troubles distinguishing between AI art and art of an artist warms my heart. I feel bright future ahead
 

sifena7986

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I work with ai and I can generate and automatically crop transparent pieces. I am using it to create items, enemies and even player characters for my game.
How do you do that? Afaik sd and SDXL models fundamentally dont support alpha channel (aka transparency). I haven't found reliable way to do that, so I'm curious.

Just to be clear, I didn't mean simply cropping out with mask. I meant creating partial transparency in right places (like in the example of the mouth I've attached earlier)
 
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souldead341

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Artists may use AI to assist their work, nothing wrong with that.
(Unless if they're just directly using the generated art which would be a different thing.)

The problem is NOT making such cosmetic change as optional, so there's no way to switch back to the old style if you prefer that.
Except there's literally nothing stopping you from keeping and playing a version with the old art. It's not like a change to the art of a live service game, you can just not update the version you have and even keep multiple versions to play with the old art and the latest version for mods and such.
 
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Purple_Heart

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How do you do that? Afaik sd and SDXL models fundamentally dont support alpha channel (aka transparency). I haven't found reliable way to do that, so I'm curious.

Just to be clear, I didn't mean simply cropping out with mask. I meant creating partial transparency in right places (like in the example of the mouth I've attached earlier)
I just checked how it works because it has been quite a while since the last time I used ai. Turns out sd was generating images with flat color background(usually white or grey) which can be automatically cropped using a plugin to generate "transparency" where it is needed. This way I was able to use it to generate all sorts of stuff with transparent "background" but yeah it doesn't seem to be able to generate partially transparent pieces.
 
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takohama69

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I try a ccmod and turn on condom mode but doesn't see enemy wearing condom.
How to fix
I asked on git, condoms graphics on inmates are disabled for now due to the official graphics updates. No clear ETA for when they will be enabled back, but as long as the dev keeps making pointlessly dragged out graphics updates, then we most likely won't get a working condom mod.
 
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hyperboy14

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Mod idea using the breast size dlcs, in game event where a drug or something else is used on Karryn by enemies to increase her breast size. Maybe even make them lactate.
 
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Purple_Heart

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Mod idea using the breast size dlcs, in game event where a drug or something else is used on Karryn by enemies to increase her breast size.
ccmod already does this when Karryn gets pregnant(if you are using small breasts).
 
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Lady Luck

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Probably not until the DLC finishes and major changes to the game stop so the modders can make those additions themselves.
Going by steam the gym dlc came out June first of 2023, and the H-cup variation dlc came out September first of 2023. Now I'm not an artist, so I could be wrong, but I don't think it takes this long to redraw the exact same pictures he already has just with bigger boobs for the P-cup variation dlc. I would have assumed it would take about the same amount of time as the H-cup varitaion dlc, i.e. 3 months. Since it's been 9 months since then I'm not convinced they are even working on the dlc anymore.
 

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Going by steam the gym dlc came out June first of 2023, and the H-cup variation dlc came out September first of 2023. Now I'm not an artist, so I could be wrong, but I don't think it takes this long to redraw the exact same pictures he already has just with bigger boobs for the P-cup variation dlc. I would have assumed it would take about the same amount of time as the H-cup varitaion dlc, i.e. 3 months. Since it's been 9 months since then I'm not convinced they are even working on the dlc anymore.

wrong, the artist have been uploading advances on their page and the P-cup DLC is mostly complete.
In words of the artist, basically the H-cup was easier because it was just changing the breast and some of the art around it while the P-cup needed to redo basically everything as they cover more objects. If you check the game files this isn't just the typical VN displaying some static PNG scene, there is a lot of small parts all working together (that is also why the mods are constantly bugging out until all parts work together)
 

negroidprime

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Going by steam the gym dlc came out June first of 2023, and the H-cup variation dlc came out September first of 2023. Now I'm not an artist, so I could be wrong, but I don't think it takes this long to redraw the exact same pictures he already has just with bigger boobs for the P-cup variation dlc. I would have assumed it would take about the same amount of time as the H-cup varitaion dlc, i.e. 3 months. Since it's been 9 months since then I'm not convinced they are even working on the dlc anymore.
Oh look, yet another one who does not understand how much of a gargantuan undertaking it is to rework thousands of art assets that mesh together in a paperdoll system.
 

Milkiway1123

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i'm new to this thread, i absolutelly no idea what to do in the game, there's no guide so i'm planning to just playing with cheat, but what cheat should i get from all of those cheats?
 

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i'm new to this thread, i absolutelly no idea what to do in the game, there's no guide so i'm planning to just playing with cheat, but what cheat should i get from all of those cheats?
none, take the secreatry difficulty and read what npc told you, its not that hard
 

danadana

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So we never will see a what happen in the shower, pool, stables, basket place and in the class?
Unfortunately, that was just people's illusions. They never said they were going to do it. I would have liked it too, but seeing the fauna of people complaining about everything they say or do, accusing the artist of using AI without proof and explaining to the developer how to make a successful game under subjective opinions from their homes without understand a shit (if ppl are so creative, if ppl are so incredible create your own game let's see how it goes), so I understand that he wants to send everything to hell and make a new game ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

What this game has made clear is that it has been a success and it has been without listening to the imbecilities of many enlightened people who like to play being developers with other people's games. :KEK: :KEK: :KEK: :KEK: :KEK: :KEK: :KEK:
 
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