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R1verr

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I'm curious, is there a way to softlock yourself out of progressing by getting too many slut levels too fast? I feel like I get stuck getting fucked with no real way out and not enough energy or recovery options to see it through all the way.

Any way out of it or should I just start a new save and spacebar through the grind?
 

EmilIrving

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I'm curious, is there a way to softlock yourself out of progressing by getting too many slut levels too fast? I feel like I get stuck getting fucked with no real way out and not enough energy or recovery options to see it through all the way.

Any way out of it or should I just start a new save and spacebar through the grind?
You gotta make a new save. It's really hard to slut it up without softlocking yourself (Karryn becoming perverted is a different matter tho'). If you wanna be that kinda of Karryn, you gotta wait until after achieving the Happy-ending where Karryn stays with the prison. That's where you can freely do so without much consequences.
 

R1verr

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You gotta make a new save. It's really hard to slut it up without softlocking yourself (Karryn becoming perverted is a different matter tho'). If you wanna be that kinda of Karryn, you gotta wait until after achieving the Happy-ending where Karryn stays with the prison. That's where you can freely do so without much consequences.
Fun times, guess ill just look for a save or something for now, and play through the game more properly when ive "seen it all"

Thanks for the quick reply!
 

AMT7922

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I'm curious, is there a way to softlock yourself out of progressing by getting too many slut levels too fast? I feel like I get stuck getting fucked with no real way out and not enough energy or recovery options to see it through all the way.

Any way out of it or should I just start a new save and spacebar through the grind?
If you softlocked yourself, just let it game over by letting Order drop below zero.

For sex/slut build, the danger is always sensitivity gain exceeding your energy level especially sight/talk. For body part sensitivity, it's counter balanced by sex skill lvl gained. So those usually won't softlock you.

Stack Endurance and Energy gain early and you are unlikely to run into softlock. Also avoid receptionist and stripper work, leave those for endless mode after beating the final boss.
 

UndeadEve

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So, he's going to just move away from Karryn Prison system entirely ? And even make the character a non virgin from the get go? Plus forced NTR?

The only good thing about this is that I won't have to wait 5+ years for his next game to be finished, because it has zero appeal to me, as someone who got interested in this developer precisely because of Karryn's prison game system and ability to retain her virginity or lose it at will.

Shame, but hey not skin off my back.
Thanks for sharing this.

Still, while in my opinion having the forced NTR removed, is good.... I just can't see how these ideas about his car/non-card battle mechanics will play out well (heck from what I can read Even Remtairy seems confused about what he ultimately wants), as well as the relationship being cooked into passives and meta progression, will only end up with a Slut MC who fucks everyone for the bonuses (not my kind of tea), plus having the clothes "cooked" into a class system just...scream rigid, something that will grow old and boring fast.

I have to admit, I am really not sold on this, it seems like a gigantic downgrade from Karryn's Prison.

It's like someone opening a store where they are serving a rich in variety buffet where everyone can eat whatever they want and if they want, and the very next day the same store just sell lukewarm rotisserie chicken and cold fries.

I wish I'll end up being wrong...but I somehow can't see that being the case.
I had flashbacks of another game, so bad in fact i had to check i was still on karryn's :ROFLMAO:
This looked and sounds so much like "Saria Reclaimed" and it's development i had whiplash:ROFLMAO:
We just need the game to become a visual novel out of nowhere and then be abandoned and we're on tracks
 
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ThatHero

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It's really hard to slut it up without softlocking yourself (Karryn becoming perverted is a different matter tho'). If you wanna be that kinda of Karryn, you gotta wait until after achieving the Happy-ending where Karryn stays with the prison.
I feel like as long as you aren't letting the game play itself (you're still making choices to make battles end ASAP and you're managing your mind/energy), going full bimbo without softlocking yourself shouldn't be hard. Ideally, you just want to fast track a particular skill so that Karryn can be an initiator and active participant before her passives skyrocket. Helps if you already have the titles for speeding up unlocking skills or intentionally take loses while enemies are weak to farm a specific skill. You can get Kiss/HJ/BJ extremely quickly by losing on Floor 1 a couple of times at the end of your day or throwing the bar side job and still have time to clear Floor 1 and 2 respectively in 6~ days each.

I have ended infinitely more runs trying to do the Empress Ending under various conditions :cry:

Also avoid receptionist and stripper work, leave those for endless mode after beating the final boss.
The bonuses you get from high reputation in those two jobs specifically makes it to where you want to do them at least occasionally, imo. Being able to gradually reduce control deductions plus increase order for the former and gain money while stopping riots for the latter tends to give you way more wiggle room. Less fights also means your passives spike much less often. Poledancing is like the freest boost to late-game progression as long as you specifically aren't taking off more than the first piece or any at all.
 
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The_Knut

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What is the new update for this version?
Or is there any mod, or new side job?
Thank you.
At this point will be just bugfixes and minor optimizations, check the last few patch log versions below:

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If you're looking for more content you'll need to rely on mods instead...
 

raishiro

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At this point will be just bugfixes and minor optimizations, check the last few patch log versions below:

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If you're looking for more content you'll need to rely on mods instead...
oke, thank you for the share.
so which version of the game is with the proper or smooth run?
my last version, crush when played the free run.
 

thatscoolbro

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Hey i appreciate the work you put into the pre modded version Purple_Heart . I appreciate evrn more seeing after your post 30 pages long trying to helo people with issues facing your premodded version. I hate to be the one also telling you about the issue i am facing. I couldnt find any one mentioning this in the 30 pages i scrolled through however i just installed your pick from the premodded version and i want to play it using joiplay on my pixel 6 but i am facing this issue on runnup. if you could help me in any shape or form it will be appreciated 1000137203.png
 

thatscoolbro

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Hey i appreciate the work you put into the pre modded version Purple_Heart . I appreciate evrn more seeing after your post 30 pages long trying to helo people with issues facing your premodded version. I hate to be the one also telling you about the issue i am facing. I couldnt find any one mentioning this in the 30 pages i scrolled through however i just installed your pick from the premodded version and i want to play it using joiplay on my pixel 6 but i am facing this issue on runnup. if you could help me in any shape or form it will be appreciated View attachment 5501453
I found the Issue was go to Settings and disable PixiJsV5
 

AMT7922

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The bonuses you get from high reputation in those two jobs specifically makes it to where you want to do them at least occasionally, imo. Being able to gradually reduce control deductions plus increase order for the former and gain money while stopping riots for the latter tends to give you way more wiggle room. Less fights also means your passives spike much less often. Poledancing is like the freest boost to late-game progression as long as you specifically aren't taking off more than the first piece or any at all.
If you optimize on edict choice, you won't need their bonuses. Having beaten the game on prisoner mode using slut build, there's surprisingly a lot of edicts you can safely skip out on without running out of Order. A lot of my runs finish without reception, gym, stripclub.

On my slut runs, i only use bar to learn my first sex skill and only occassionally do it to maintain some income early game. Toilet sidejob is for grinding sex level and orgasm (which related passives eventually reduce Energy loss from orgasm). This is without resorting to defeat spam and/or getting stripped naked by prisoners (triggers exhibitionist passive) to learn sex skills.

The main reason to avoid these two jobs is because of the sight / talk action by the prisoners which counts toward triggering passives that lowers their resist.
Bar job is also kinda bad but on slut run, you are racing to get drunk asap to finish the session.

That said though, if you focus on endurance & energy growth early, you can still tanked through all the pleasure damage without worrying too much about being soft locked by orgasm loop and just play the game as normal.
 
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ThatHero

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If you optimize on edict choice, you won't need their bonuses. Having beaten the game on prisoner mode using slut build, there's surprisingly a lot of edicts you can safely skip out on without running out of Order. A lot of my runs finish without reception, gym, stripclub.

On my slut runs, i only use bar to learn my first sex skill and only occassionally do it to maintain some income early game. Toilet sidejob is for grinding sex level and orgasm (which related passives eventually reduce Energy loss from orgasm). This is without resorting to defeat spam and/or getting stripped naked by prisoners (triggers exhibitionist passive) to learn sex skills.
Honestly, the game pretty much encourages avoiding the majority of the edict system since most of what you can get is too expensive for how long it takes to get them regardless of if you run a combat, pervert, or slut build. My suggestions were more so taking into account if someone wanted to get to the sluttiness before starting most of the content and still getting to see it in a run. You are completely right, though. You don't need to do it the way I suggested.

The main reason to avoid these two jobs is because of the sight / talk action by the prisoners which counts toward triggering passives that lowers their resist.
Bar job is also kinda bad but on slut run, you are racing to get drunk asap to finish the session.

That said though, if you focus on endurance & energy growth early, you can still tanked through all the pleasure damage without worrying too much about being soft locked by orgasm loop and just play the game as normal.
The sight/talk passive gain rate only gets amplified if Karryn's body is fully revealed, though, right? As long as you aren't spending the majority of the side jobs with her T&A out and panties gone, those passives shouldn't be getting out of control before you get your sex skills unlocked. None of the petting actions directly contribute to getting skills, so I tend to just avoid them until they are no longer detrimental.

Usually when I do the bar mini-game, I don't let Karryn get drunk until you're almost out of time so I can still do the side job while having the lowest number of shifts + gaining the most gold. You can stack up your endurance levels and gold really easily by only offering Ale and taking sips from/flashing a crowd of customers while taking breathers.

I do agree with all of your points, though. I think we ended up offering two very different experiences, haha.
 

AMT7922

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The sight/talk passive gain rate only gets amplified if Karryn's body is fully revealed, though, right? As long as you aren't spending the majority of the side jobs with her T&A out and panties gone, those passives shouldn't be getting out of control before you get your sex skills unlocked. None of the petting actions directly contribute to getting skills, so I tend to just avoid them until they are no longer detrimental.

Usually when I do the bar mini-game, I don't let Karryn get drunk until you're almost out of time so I can still do the side job while having the lowest number of shifts + gaining the most gold. You can stack up your endurance levels and gold really easily by only offering Ale and taking sips from/flashing a crowd of customers while taking breathers.

I do agree with all of your points, though. I think we ended up offering two very different experiences, haha.
I have no firm clue on what triggers prisoner to ogle and dirty talk karryn. It's probably desire level of each body part as with most sex actions. Cause even fully clothed, prisoner will ogle her body parts if she has enough desire build up.

To learn sex skill, ogling or petting doesn't help. It needs to be the actual sex action over a number of times to learn them. That's means right desire combination and being naked.

In terms of the sight/talk sensitivity passive gains though, it works off the cumulative pleasure damage she received from being stared or dirty talked since mind build is basically immune to this passive gain cause they have full resist and take zero pleasure from those.

As for edicts, yes a lot of em are double edged sword and even outright detrimental depending on your type of run. Even learning stat growth skill, you only want to focus as few stat as possible to have a viable stat distribution.

Thankfully sex build is the cheapest build to work with, just endurance and energy growth and a few key accessories. Rest of my income just goes into getting +income and -expense edicts, racial edicts and upgrading her bed if I m not doing a maso build.
 
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I have no firm clue on what triggers prisoner to ogle and dirty talk karryn. It's probably desire level of each body part as with most sex actions. Cause even fully clothed, prisoner will ogle her body parts if she has enough desire build up.

To learn sex skill, ogling or petting doesn't help. It needs to be the actual sex action over a number of times to learn them. That's means right desire combination and being naked.

In terms of the sight/talk sensitivity passive gains though, it works off the cumulative pleasure damage she received from being stared or dirty talked since mind build is basically immune to this passive gain cause they have full resist and take zero pleasure from those.

As for edicts, yes a lot of em are double edged sword and even outright detrimental depending on your type of run. Even learning stat growth skill, you only want to focus as few stat as possible to have a viable stat distribution.

Thankfully sex build is the cheapest build to work with, just endurance and energy growth and a few key accessories. Rest of my income just goes into getting +income and -expense edicts, racial edicts and upgrading her bed if I m not doing a maso build.
Prisoners can ogle and dirty talk even when karryn is fully clothed.
There are a bunch of odds involved, but here are a few factors are:
1. Charm level
2. How stripped karryn is (if trying to strip her isn't possible, it is removed as a possible choice of action obv, same for groping)
3. Desires levels, simply because having low desires all around makes groping or sex actions impossible as a random choice.
4. Angry vs normal vs Horny status effects, also edicts and titles that decrease inmate attack chance when combines with the previously mentioned conditions.
 
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