RPGM Katalist [v0.097.2] [Tearycian]

[iffrith]

does it have anal?

 

[lnppo]

does it have anal?

For who? The MC gets fucked up the ass with pegging on, and he licks assholes but I don't think he actually penetrates any.

 

[Kraverin]

Okay so here's the wall of text about the Sentinel tower lore. Maybe everything I will write will prove to be wrong but I tried to reason according to every hints Teary put in the game while not overthinking things

To keep things structured I will first give analysis on the events we saw before giving conclusions or theories :

Let's start with the "Rampage". The rampage is the name Alex uses to qualify what Julia ( the bloody girl ) did when the MC fell under the tower for the first time. She basically killed and ate every living entity down there except Alex, the MC and Ki ( the lost silent boy ) if you chose to save him. It's confirmed by Alex that they are the last living things in this section. ( except when you inspect some cells in the "kitchen", it says there are people in it so it might be an inconsistency ) After that, Alex cures Julia's current state. When interacting with the latter, we can see that she's... normal. She feels guilty and is most likely traumatized about killing all these people. She probably has a hard time remembering the events. Before getting to the interesting part of her explaining how it happened, it's interesting to note a dialogue from Alex, when you question her about her role in this mess.

She answers that she has to "fix" the "rampages" whenever they get out of hands. It's important to note that she says fix, and not PREVENT. As if it was... normal for the rampages to happen.
That's where the explanation of Julia is even more interesting and understandable. Julia explains that soon after her start at the college she was brought here under the tower and that the last place she saw was Allan's office. Allan apologized for doing this and then, while Julia was blindfolded there was Miss Cho ( a "teacher" who is not often saw at school ) who started repeating things in her ears. She spoke about various things : "let go of the control", "eat",You have to be "watered", You have to "grow", and the most interesting thing she said is that a catalyst was near, and that she ( Julia ) had to be ready to serve Niht. ( I'll explain later but this Catalyst is Miki at 99% )

So what can we assume knowing all of this ?

The first thing that comes to mind is the fact Julia was almost possessed while doing her rampage. It wasn't her wish to kill everyone. Yet she did, and while we could say it was an accident we have enough elements to guess it's probably not the case. Miss Cho spoke about how she needed to EAT, to GROW, to be WATERED. She treats her like a kind of plant. But... Instead of watering her with actual water, we can imagine she had to water her with blood. Hence why she pushed her to consume all of the peoples down here, and that also explains why Allan was apologizing. He probably knew what was going to happen but as the character said himself he has his "hands tied."

Now to go more in depth, we need to know what is a "Nihtling" in this story. Dominic's diary informs us that Niht is a primordial God, on of the most ancient of the world. His powers is manifested by blood and nails. We have no idea what this entity is or want but he doesn't seem friendly at all. The Nihtlings, who are some kind of progeny or "childs" of him, also inherits more or less of his magic. Walter ( the student who tried to kill the MC before he was resurrected again by the succubus possessing him ) is seen using bloody nails while trying to kill MC.
The principal, is litteraly nailed down to her chair. There is also a cult room under the tower where people prayed him. It's easy to see the Nihtlings of the school who also seem responsible for what happened at the Sentinel tower are some kind of a cult/fanatics.

There are these mysterious pearls also. Teary left less hints about that. The big informations we have about this is that Walter, IS a pearl. It's written in his character info. ( you can also notice he's munching his cravat in his splash art. He's HUNGRY, he has to EAT ) So we do know pearls can become Nihtlings. We also know they can become "failed pearls", a pile of meat searching to eat... Human bones, and even walls. We have no clue about where those pearls are from but they can produce Nihtlings, and seem to grow by drinking blood and eating themselves, in fact the same words are used for the growth of pearls as for the already adults Nithlings, such as Julia. There is also mention of deprecated pearls.

With all of this in mind, the blood, the nails, the cult, the pearls... I think Teary went with the thematic of the sacrifice with the Nihtlings. And while succubuses need to suck people's energy to grow stronger, Nihtlings could be needing to EAT people, or maybe suck the blood to grow. That could explain the stuff Cho was saying "grow, you need watering, eat etc..." and this is also words which come back regularly in the tower, on the interactable such as the notes in the kitchen, the .txt on the PCs etc... the process of "watering" plants ( who are in fact Nihtlings probably ) and the fact the foodstock in the kitchen was full of blood and is also the spot where we found Ki shows that some flesh was on the plate of the canteen. ( Unrelated, it's also good to know that Ki is a human in the character info. He's the only human related to the tower, he's called "deprecated" by the nihtlinngs. Are the deprecated former Nihtlings who lost their powers ? )


All of this shit seems to have been planned, as if Cho wanted Julia to actually eat everyone ( not sure about the staff tho, maybe her rampage went too far ) to grow.

When you check characters status you can now see julia is a "Night Walker". Beatrice, and the dude with the glasses are also Night Walkers. Trent is probably one too. There are chances that "Night walkers" are an "elite" type of Nihtlings and that the purpose of the sections under the tower is to create those ones. Not sure why Trent Beatrice and the others aren't traumatized like Julia tho.

To conclude this essay we can link all of this stuff with the event of Miki's disappeareance. A female Nithling came to the tower to meet Miki. She smelled her and noticed she was a succubus, then asked if she was Noo ( Noo probably played a part in the Nithling schemes ) to conclude Miki was indeed what she's been searching for. We must keep in mind that Miki was not summoned in the tower randomly. Someone ( probably a nithling ) used the ritual of Dominic to lock her in the tower, so since the beggining of the game she was a captive. They already knew Miki was a... Catalyst. So the woman called her superiors and they most likely brought Miki to the school to achieve something. How do we know Miki is a Catalyst ? First, Cho said to Julia that a Catalyst was near. Then we know Miki is an hybrid Succubus/nithling. And well, if you come to Sentinel tower after Miki has vanished, you can interact with a lot of little spirits where she was staying who are saying very interesting stuff. One of them straight up says somehting like "A perfect catalyst. Niht will be pleased." and another says "If she's your friend, take her away before they do". That leaves no room for doubts. In other maps others spirits say stuff like "Niht is back, i'm relieved" or they don't understand they're dead. I won't extend too much on that but there are chances that these spirits are mainly the people Julia killed recently and they know what's going on.

Here comes the conclusion : Considering all the elements we have, it comes naturally to mind that the Nihtlings just want... To "resurrect" or summon Niht himself. Judging by the dialogues, he is already there but maybe he needs a body or a ritual to come back permanently. Here comes the principal. How could she not play a role in this ? She's the highest member we know in their organisation. She's nailed down to her chair, deblatering enigmatic stuff except one sentence : "How long will they take ?" We can assume she's waiting for her underlings, the Nithlings of the school to achieve the ritual or whatever they planned. The fact that she's waiting, nailed down like this makes me think her body could host Niht. They needed Miki and probably other stuff done ( maybe Nithlings sacrifices ? ) and where the story stop it feels like they are almost done.


Phew writing so much about a porn game make you question your life. If someone has the willpower to read this, don't hesitate to tell me what you think about it already !

Exactly what I had in mind when I thought about walls of text, that aside, do remember that the principal is protecting the MC for whatever reason, so maybe he is pivotal to their plans.

 

[Cundalini]

Guys after defeating Alex where do we find Julia? I can't find another way than the second pic (Julia's first encounter and its bugged as you can see). The quest named 'Red Way Home' looks finished in journal tho. I guess my save bugged.

 

[LexiTV]

Okay so here's the wall of text about the Sentinel tower lore. Maybe everything I will write will prove to be wrong but I tried to reason according to every hints Teary put in the game while not overthinking things

To keep things structured I will first give analysis on the events we saw before giving conclusions or theories :

Let's start with the "Rampage". The rampage is the name Alex uses to qualify what Julia ( the bloody girl ) did when the MC fell under the tower for the first time. She basically killed and ate every living entity down there except Alex, the MC and Ki ( the lost silent boy ) if you chose to save him. It's confirmed by Alex that they are the last living things in this section. ( except when you inspect some cells in the "kitchen", it says there are people in it so it might be an inconsistency ) After that, Alex cures Julia's current state. When interacting with the latter, we can see that she's... normal. She feels guilty and is most likely traumatized about killing all these people. She probably has a hard time remembering the events. Before getting to the interesting part of her explaining how it happened, it's interesting to note a dialogue from Alex, when you question her about her role in this mess.

She answers that she has to "fix" the "rampages" whenever they get out of hands. It's important to note that she says fix, and not PREVENT. As if it was... normal for the rampages to happen.
That's where the explanation of Julia is even more interesting and understandable. Julia explains that soon after her start at the college she was brought here under the tower and that the last place she saw was Allan's office. Allan apologized for doing this and then, while Julia was blindfolded there was Miss Cho ( a "teacher" who is not often saw at school ) who started repeating things in her ears. She spoke about various things : "let go of the control", "eat",You have to be "watered", You have to "grow", and the most interesting thing she said is that a catalyst was near, and that she ( Julia ) had to be ready to serve Niht. ( I'll explain later but this Catalyst is Miki at 99% )

So what can we assume knowing all of this ?

The first thing that comes to mind is the fact Julia was almost possessed while doing her rampage. It wasn't her wish to kill everyone. Yet she did, and while we could say it was an accident we have enough elements to guess it's probably not the case. Miss Cho spoke about how she needed to EAT, to GROW, to be WATERED. She treats her like a kind of plant. But... Instead of watering her with actual water, we can imagine she had to water her with blood. Hence why she pushed her to consume all of the peoples down here, and that also explains why Allan was apologizing. He probably knew what was going to happen but as the character said himself he has his "hands tied."

Now to go more in depth, we need to know what is a "Nihtling" in this story. Dominic's diary informs us that Niht is a primordial God, on of the most ancient of the world. His powers is manifested by blood and nails. We have no idea what this entity is or want but he doesn't seem friendly at all. The Nihtlings, who are some kind of progeny or "childs" of him, also inherits more or less of his magic. Walter ( the student who tried to kill the MC before he was resurrected again by the succubus possessing him ) is seen using bloody nails while trying to kill MC.
The principal, is litteraly nailed down to her chair. There is also a cult room under the tower where people prayed him. It's easy to see the Nihtlings of the school who also seem responsible for what happened at the Sentinel tower are some kind of a cult/fanatics.

There are these mysterious pearls also. Teary left less hints about that. The big informations we have about this is that Walter, IS a pearl. It's written in his character info. ( you can also notice he's munching his cravat in his splash art. He's HUNGRY, he has to EAT ) So we do know pearls can become Nihtlings. We also know they can become "failed pearls", a pile of meat searching to eat... Human bones, and even walls. We have no clue about where those pearls are from but they can produce Nihtlings, and seem to grow by drinking blood and eating themselves, in fact the same words are used for the growth of pearls as for the already adults Nithlings, such as Julia. There is also mention of deprecated pearls.

With all of this in mind, the blood, the nails, the cult, the pearls... I think Teary went with the thematic of the sacrifice with the Nihtlings. And while succubuses need to suck people's energy to grow stronger, Nihtlings could be needing to EAT people, or maybe suck the blood to grow. That could explain the stuff Cho was saying "grow, you need watering, eat etc..." and this is also words which come back regularly in the tower, on the interactable such as the notes in the kitchen, the .txt on the PCs etc... the process of "watering" plants ( who are in fact Nihtlings probably ) and the fact the foodstock in the kitchen was full of blood and is also the spot where we found Ki shows that some flesh was on the plate of the canteen. ( Unrelated, it's also good to know that Ki is a human in the character info. He's the only human related to the tower, he's called "deprecated" by the nihtlinngs. Are the deprecated former Nihtlings who lost their powers ? )


All of this shit seems to have been planned, as if Cho wanted Julia to actually eat everyone ( not sure about the staff tho, maybe her rampage went too far ) to grow.

When you check characters status you can now see julia is a "Night Walker". Beatrice, and the dude with the glasses are also Night Walkers. Trent is probably one too. There are chances that "Night walkers" are an "elite" type of Nihtlings and that the purpose of the sections under the tower is to create those ones. Not sure why Trent Beatrice and the others aren't traumatized like Julia tho.

To conclude this essay we can link all of this stuff with the event of Miki's disappeareance. A female Nithling came to the tower to meet Miki. She smelled her and noticed she was a succubus, then asked if she was Noo ( Noo probably played a part in the Nithling schemes ) to conclude Miki was indeed what she's been searching for. We must keep in mind that Miki was not summoned in the tower randomly. Someone ( probably a nithling ) used the ritual of Dominic to lock her in the tower, so since the beggining of the game she was a captive. They already knew Miki was a... Catalyst. So the woman called her superiors and they most likely brought Miki to the school to achieve something. How do we know Miki is a Catalyst ? First, Cho said to Julia that a Catalyst was near. Then we know Miki is an hybrid Succubus/nithling. And well, if you come to Sentinel tower after Miki has vanished, you can interact with a lot of little spirits where she was staying who are saying very interesting stuff. One of them straight up says somehting like "A perfect catalyst. Niht will be pleased." and another says "If she's your friend, take her away before they do". That leaves no room for doubts. In other maps others spirits say stuff like "Niht is back, i'm relieved" or they don't understand they're dead. I won't extend too much on that but there are chances that these spirits are mainly the people Julia killed recently and they know what's going on.

Here comes the conclusion : Considering all the elements we have, it comes naturally to mind that the Nihtlings just want... To "resurrect" or summon Niht himself. Judging by the dialogues, he is already there but maybe he needs a body or a ritual to come back permanently. Here comes the principal. How could she not play a role in this ? She's the highest member we know in their organisation. She's nailed down to her chair, deblatering enigmatic stuff except one sentence : "How long will they take ?" We can assume she's waiting for her underlings, the Nithlings of the school to achieve the ritual or whatever they planned. The fact that she's waiting, nailed down like this makes me think her body could host Niht. They needed Miki and probably other stuff done ( maybe Nithlings sacrifices ? ) and where the story stop it feels like they are almost done.


Phew writing so much about a porn game make you question your life. If someone has the willpower to read this, don't hesitate to tell me what you think about it already !

Quite a mouthful! I guess ur used 2 those kind of thingz.

 

[MorbidViews21]

the bonnie massage mini game is great. Just wish there more options. Options like kissing,licking, assjob etc.

 

[femdomfartlover]

Guys after defeating Alex where do we find Julia? I can't find another way than the second pic (Julia's first encounter and its bugged as you can see). The quest named 'Red Way Home' looks finished in journal tho. I guess my save bugged.



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she will run away almost everytime just wait talk with alex and search the whole area

 

[GOATeed]

really Goated for sure. interesting perspective. I doubt the need to feed on blood side of things, but it wouldn't suprise me if powers come from blood maybe for niht.or niht worshipers want to do some sort of blood sacrifice ritual. not sure how that will get sexyfied tho. there's a lot of different groups tho. faries witches succubus whatever the school groups are... etc surely it all weaves into one tapestry somehow. they might just want to reincarnate niht into someone's body or something who knows. will have to see . I doubt we've even seen clues for actual endgame boss. this game had the potential to go down so many more tunnels.

btw anyone else disappointed principle was nailed like she was. tbh was kinda hoping she'd be a big mature baddie.

I edited because i forgot about it but it wouldn't be crazy to think the principal want to host Niht in her body. And then... she would become a big mature baddie.

Exactly what I had in mind when I thought about walls of text, that aside, do remember that the principal is protecting the MC for whatever reason, so maybe he is pivotal to their plans.

Mind reminding me how the principal is protecting the MC ? Because afawk her underlings tried to kill him

Quite a mouthful! I guess ur used 2 those kind of thingz.

What a disrespectful boi. You want sum or wot ??

 

[iffrith]

For who? The MC gets fucked up the ass with pegging on, and he licks assholes but I don't think he actually penetrates any.

I'm out... thx for the reply though xD

 

[Blemished_One]

I'm out... thx for the reply though xD

It is a femdom game, so I don't know what you expected

 

[Maslucu351]

Where is Vhidna after the first encounter with Enna? Or do you need to beat her first?

 

[Cundalini]

she will run away almost everytime just wait talk with alex and search the whole area

Thanks for your reply. As i said its all about my save and im not doing anything wrong. So solved

 

[NwSColeh]

Okay so here's the wall of text about the Sentinel tower lore. Maybe everything I will write will prove to be wrong but I tried to reason according to every hints Teary put in the game while not overthinking things

To keep things structured I will first give analysis on the events we saw before giving conclusions or theories :

Let's start with the "Rampage". The rampage is the name Alex uses to qualify what Julia ( the bloody girl ) did when the MC fell under the tower for the first time. She basically killed and ate every living entity down there except Alex, the MC and Ki ( the lost silent boy ) if you chose to save him. It's confirmed by Alex that they are the last living things in this section. ( except when you inspect some cells in the "kitchen", it says there are people in it so it might be an inconsistency ) After that, Alex cures Julia's current state. When interacting with the latter, we can see that she's... normal. She feels guilty and is most likely traumatized about killing all these people. She probably has a hard time remembering the events. Before getting to the interesting part of her explaining how it happened, it's interesting to note a dialogue from Alex, when you question her about her role in this mess.

She answers that she has to "fix" the "rampages" whenever they get out of hands. It's important to note that she says fix, and not PREVENT. As if it was... normal for the rampages to happen.
That's where the explanation of Julia is even more interesting and understandable. Julia explains that soon after her start at the college she was brought here under the tower and that the last place she saw was Allan's office. Allan apologized for doing this and then, while Julia was blindfolded there was Miss Cho ( a "teacher" who is not often saw at school ) who started repeating things in her ears. She spoke about various things : "let go of the control", "eat",You have to be "watered", You have to "grow", and the most interesting thing she said is that a catalyst was near, and that she ( Julia ) had to be ready to serve Niht. ( I'll explain later but this Catalyst is Miki at 99% )

So what can we assume knowing all of this ?

The first thing that comes to mind is the fact Julia was almost possessed while doing her rampage. It wasn't her wish to kill everyone. Yet she did, and while we could say it was an accident we have enough elements to guess it's probably not the case. Miss Cho spoke about how she needed to EAT, to GROW, to be WATERED. She treats her like a kind of plant. But... Instead of watering her with actual water, we can imagine she had to water her with blood. Hence why she pushed her to consume all of the peoples down here, and that also explains why Allan was apologizing. He probably knew what was going to happen but as the character said himself he has his "hands tied."

Now to go more in depth, we need to know what is a "Nihtling" in this story. Dominic's diary informs us that Niht is a primordial God, on of the most ancient of the world. His powers is manifested by blood and nails. We have no idea what this entity is or want but he doesn't seem friendly at all. The Nihtlings, who are some kind of progeny or "childs" of him, also inherits more or less of his magic. Walter ( the student who tried to kill the MC before he was resurrected again by the succubus possessing him ) is seen using bloody nails while trying to kill MC.
The principal, is litteraly nailed down to her chair. There is also a cult room under the tower where people prayed him. It's easy to see the Nihtlings of the school who also seem responsible for what happened at the Sentinel tower are some kind of a cult/fanatics.

There are these mysterious pearls also. Teary left less hints about that. The big informations we have about this is that Walter, IS a pearl. It's written in his character info. ( you can also notice he's munching his cravat in his splash art. He's HUNGRY, he has to EAT ) So we do know pearls can become Nihtlings. We also know they can become "failed pearls", a pile of meat searching to eat... Human bones, and even walls. We have no clue about where those pearls are from but they can produce Nihtlings, and seem to grow by drinking blood and eating themselves, in fact the same words are used for the growth of pearls as for the already adults Nithlings, such as Julia. There is also mention of deprecated pearls.

With all of this in mind, the blood, the nails, the cult, the pearls... I think Teary went with the thematic of the sacrifice with the Nihtlings. And while succubuses need to suck people's energy to grow stronger, Nihtlings could be needing to EAT people, or maybe suck the blood to grow. That could explain the stuff Cho was saying "grow, you need watering, eat etc..." and this is also words which come back regularly in the tower, on the interactable such as the notes in the kitchen, the .txt on the PCs etc... the process of "watering" plants ( who are in fact Nihtlings probably ) and the fact the foodstock in the kitchen was full of blood and is also the spot where we found Ki shows that some flesh was on the plate of the canteen. ( Unrelated, it's also good to know that Ki is a human in the character info. He's the only human related to the tower, he's called "deprecated" by the nihtlinngs. Are the deprecated former Nihtlings who lost their powers ? )


All of this shit seems to have been planned, as if Cho wanted Julia to actually eat everyone ( not sure about the staff tho, maybe her rampage went too far ) to grow.

When you check characters status you can now see julia is a "Night Walker". Beatrice, and the dude with the glasses are also Night Walkers. Trent is probably one too. There are chances that "Night walkers" are an "elite" type of Nihtlings and that the purpose of the sections under the tower is to create those ones. Not sure why Trent Beatrice and the others aren't traumatized like Julia tho.

To conclude this essay we can link all of this stuff with the event of Miki's disappeareance. A female Nithling came to the tower to meet Miki. She smelled her and noticed she was a succubus, then asked if she was Noo ( Noo probably played a part in the Nithling schemes ) to conclude Miki was indeed what she's been searching for. We must keep in mind that Miki was not summoned in the tower randomly. Someone ( probably a nithling ) used the ritual of Dominic to lock her in the tower, so since the beggining of the game she was a captive. They already knew Miki was a... Catalyst. So the woman called her superiors and they most likely brought Miki to the school to achieve something. How do we know Miki is a Catalyst ? First, Cho said to Julia that a Catalyst was near. Then we know Miki is an hybrid Succubus/nithling. And well, if you come to Sentinel tower after Miki has vanished, you can interact with a lot of little spirits where she was staying who are saying very interesting stuff. One of them straight up says somehting like "A perfect catalyst. Niht will be pleased." and another says "If she's your friend, take her away before they do". That leaves no room for doubts. In other maps others spirits say stuff like "Niht is back, i'm relieved" or they don't understand they're dead. I won't extend too much on that but there are chances that these spirits are mainly the people Julia killed recently and they know what's going on.

Here comes the conclusion : Considering all the elements we have, it comes naturally to mind that the Nihtlings just want... To "resurrect" or summon Niht himself. Judging by the dialogues, he is already there but maybe he needs a body or a ritual to come back permanently. Here comes the principal. How could she not play a role in this ? She's the highest member we know in their organisation. She's nailed down to her chair, deblatering enigmatic stuff except one sentence : "How long will they take ?" We can assume she's waiting for her underlings, the Nithlings of the school to achieve the ritual or whatever they planned. The fact that she's waiting, nailed down like this makes me think her body could host Niht. They needed Miki and probably other stuff done ( maybe Nithlings sacrifices ? ) and where the story stop it feels like they are almost done.


Phew writing so much about a porn game make you question your life. If someone has the willpower to read this, don't hesitate to tell me what you think about it already !

There's always enough willpower when it comes to Katalist lore huhuhu, a fine insightful read you've put together man

The Nihtlings' plan being ultimately to restore their deity makes sense, and Deverou as the host explains her current state. Furthermore, having to sacrifice Nihtlings accounts for their efforts to cultivate more of their kind out of the Gatastate student body. As for why some Pearls/complete Nihtlings have varying degrees of mental stability, we might cite two possible causes:

1. There is a core circle of genuinely devout Niht followers (Trent, Beatrice, Walter) who may not be used as sacrifices, as opposed to disposable members (Julia), and are wholly committed to seeing their scheme through, or
2. The Nihtlings were all normal demis (presumably, regular humans with latent magical potential hailing from either Chloa) forced into the worship of Niht, becoming loyal agents at some point when faced with the reality of not being able to live ordinary lives anymore, shedding/burying their trauma and losing themselves to the ecstasy of violence.

Great catch you made about Walter btw! I'd just dismissed his constant nibbling on his cravat as a habit, when it was a tell hinting at his nature as a growing Pearl

Your perspective on Miki's role as a catalyst is compelling as well, though there seems to be an alternative way to explain what happened here (it's a theory I've entertained for a while, please bear with me):

Spoiler: who's the catalyst

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Granted, I've likely made too many big leaps of logic, and presented theories less grounded in the observed behavior and dialogue you've used to build your case, but hopefully these ideas shed some light on how the seemingly wildly disparate plot threads connect. Otherwise, it's a little strange that this whole richly written horror cult bit would exist in a vacuum in the story with the main connection to Dilan's mission being down simply to Miki's involvement, but by Occam's razor, it's quite likely that Miki was indeed key to the Nihtlings' plans since the beginning.

aight I've showed you my hyperfocus pls respond jkjk

 

[GOATeed]

There's always enough willpower when it comes to Katalist lore huhuhu, a fine insightful read you've put together man

The Nihtlings' plan being ultimately to restore their deity makes sense, and Devon as the host explains her current state. Furthermore, having to sacrifice Nihtlings accounts for their efforts to cultivate more of their kind out of the Gatastate student body. As for why some Pearls/complete Nihtlings have varying degrees of mental stability, we might cite two possible causes:

1. There is a core circle of genuinely devout Niht followers (Trent, Beatrice, Walter) who may not be used as sacrifices, as opposed to disposable members (Julia), and are wholly committed to seeing their scheme through, or
2. The Nihtlings were all normal demis (presumably, regular humans with latent magical potential hailing from either Chloa) forced into the worship of Niht, becoming loyal agents at some point when faced with the reality of not being able to live ordinary lives anymore, shedding/burying their trauma and losing themselves to the ecstasy of violence.

Great catch you made about Walter btw! I'd just dismissed his constant nibbling on his cravat as a habit, when it was a tell hinting at his nature as a growing Pearl

Your perspective on Miki's role as a catalyst is compelling as well, though there seems to be an alternative way to explain what happened here (it's a theory I've entertained for a while, please bear with me):

Spoiler: who's the catalyst

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Granted, I've likely made too many big leaps of logic, and presented theories less grounded in the observed behavior and dialogue you've used to build your case, but hopefully these ideas shed some light on how the seemingly wildly disparate plot threads connect. Otherwise, it's a little strange that this whole richly written horror cult bit would exist in a vacuum in the story with the main connection to Dilan's mission being down simply to Miki's involvement, but by Occam's razor, it's quite likely that Miki was indeed key to the Nihtlings' plans since the beginning.

aight I've showed you my hyperfocus pls respond jkjk

It was a good read my friend. By joining our interpretations we might come up with a better version of our little theories

So first i did read your paragraph on Dilan and his orgins. Sadly i did not dwell into that part of the story enough to have my own thoughts about it, but i get the idea of Bonnie bearing Katja's essence hence why Dilan would begin to see her in his visions. And Bonnie seems to hide something. We can read some stories on people telling she ate soldiers at war. She says this is not exact. What if she was some sort of Katalist like Dilan, able to absorb others essence ? Also if you examine Bonnie's essence the game tells you that "no such thing exists". Weird. Anyway as you say we don't have enough elements on this side of the scenario

As for the rest, reading your perception of things made me think about something

I really like your idea of Dilan being the primary objective of Deverou ( and by extention of the rest of the nithlings ) and i did not give this detail enough attention. Technically he could fulfill the role of a Catalyst perfectly. Remember when I wrote about the little spirit saying "A perfect Catalyst. Niht will be pleased" ? Well, he did say that when Dilan is right before him after all. Which make me think that Miki could have been effectively locked in the tower randomly or by another nithling who wanted to play "solo".

But now they got Miki, they could use her as a cheap replacement.

About that, now that I think about it it seems too easy. Like "Oh no they have Miki they will do some bad ritual to do bad things we need to rescue her to stop them" Maybe it's too linear given the type of writing Teary is using in the game.

What if they use Miki as a bait to lure Dilan right where they want him ? It's obvious Dilan and Dominic will intervene anyway, so Dilan being present when they will do the ritual ( or whatever they have planned ) will be the main event I think. Plus it would connect well behind the narrative on Miki's character ( Teary presented her like a very bratty girl but being deeply good. It was hinted she never killed anyone and she doesn't seem to want to do it, letting Dilan K.O after she beats him instead of draining him to death ) the player AND Dominic/Dilan want to help her out, making them fall into a trap or something.

We'll see, it shouldn't be long ( in terms of number of updates ) to see how this part unfolds

 

[2341Name]

Nice to see the thread go back to the lore discussions. Life is a cycle and by my estimates, in two weeks we'll go back to arguing about femboys.

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To chip in a bit with the theory about Dilan's past,

Spoiler: dilan ma boy

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Can't comment much on the finer details since I haven't played through the story in a while. Vaila definitely doesn't know shit though.

 

[NwSColeh]

It was a good read my friend. By joining our interpretations we might come up with a better version of our little theories

So first i did read your paragraph on Dilan and his orgins. Sadly i did not dwell into that part of the story enough to have my own thoughts about it, but i get the idea of Bonnie bearing Katja's essence hence why Dilan would begin to see her in his visions. And Bonnie seems to hide something. We can read some stories on people telling she ate soldiers at war. She says this is not exact. What if she was some sort of Katalist like Dilan, able to absorb others essence ? Also if you examine Bonnie's essence the game tells you that "no such thing exists". Weird. Anyway as you say we don't have enough elements on this side of the scenario

As for the rest, reading your perception of things made me think about something

I really like your idea of Dilan being the primary objective of Deverou ( and by extention of the rest of the nithlings ) and i did not give this detail enough attention. Technically he could fulfill the role of a Catalyst perfectly. Remember when I wrote about the little spirit saying "A perfect Catalyst. Niht will be pleased" ? Well, he did say that when Dilan is right before him after all. Which make me think that Miki could have been effectively locked in the tower randomly or by another nithling who wanted to play "solo".

But now they got Miki, they could use her as a cheap replacement.

About that, now that I think about it it seems too easy. Like "Oh no they have Miki they will do some bad ritual to do bad things we need to rescue her to stop them" Maybe it's too linear given the type of writing Teary is using in the game.

What if they use Miki as a bait to lure Dilan right where they want him ? It's obvious Dilan and Dominic will intervene anyway, so Dilan being present when they will do the ritual ( or whatever they have planned ) will be the main event I think. Plus it would connect well behind the narrative on Miki's character ( Teary presented her like a very bratty girl but being deeply good. It was hinted she never killed anyone and she doesn't seem to want to do it, letting Dilan K.O after she beats him instead of draining him to death ) the player AND Dominic/Dilan want to help her out, making them fall into a trap or something.

We'll see, it shouldn't be long ( in terms of number of updates ) to see how this part unfolds

Glad to hear it! It's so much fun swapping theories, poking at the mystery Teary has set up ^^

It's interesting you brought up the possibility of Bonnie being a Katalist-like entity, as we actually have something dug up awhile ago in the game files that states she is an "Agglomerate," rather than outright classifying her as succubus or magician. We've encountered other things labeled as agglomerates before, but not much lore has been divulged about them. Based off the name alone, they might be beings that gather other entities/essences into themselves, which suggests Bonnie might indeed function like a Katalist if this is truly an agglomerate's nature. The confusion caused by mixed essences (which characters have expressed upon first meeting Dilan) can explain how Bonnie went undetected among magicians during the war before she used her frost magic.

You got another great point I'd overlooked, that the Sentinel Tower spirit did say his piece only when Dilan was in front of him. Granted, it can be a design/limitation of the engine, where dialogue triggers upon interaction, but from a lore perspective it's suspicious he'd say that while right beside Dilan; maybe it was a damning hint hiding in plain sight all along.

I think you're spot on with the future plot developments surrounding Miki, perhaps her upcoming uniformed sprite ties into this, even. When she next appears, we might actually see the Nihtlings flaunt her as their puppet before Dilan to bait him. Considering what we've seen of her behavior so far, it'd make sense to round out her character by showcasing her innate goodness in an arc like this. On the other hand though I'm concerned about what role Dominic would choose to play; I'm inclined to concur with your view that he and Dilan are aligned, but the peeks we've had into Dominic's darker thoughts and tendencies (such as his diary) are rather off-putting.

Nice to see the thread go back to the lore discussions. Life is a cycle and by my estimates, in two weeks we'll go back to arguing about femboys.



To chip in a bit with the theory about Dilan's past,

Spoiler: dilan ma boy

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Can't comment much on the finer details since I haven't played through the story in a while. Vaila definitely doesn't know shit though.

We've definitely got some probable explanations for how Dilan got to where he is now. But even if this theory gets close to Dilan's true nature/identity, it does leave Nalid out of the equation.

Spoiler: of nalid and incubi

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I abide by your estimates. In two weeks when the femboy fracas rejoins, I fight on the side of the femboys.

 

[Tom Aspinall]

Not much that hasn't been said yet, but I was always under the impression the nihtlings aren't too aware of Dilan being a Katalist.

Trent is even friendly to you at the start, and it's only after the mines where Trent sends Walter to kill you, which would be unbelievably stupid if they knew beforehand, and Beatrice would have surely warned them instead of letting Walter get mogged. Dilan isn't being watched by the teachers until he starts Macky's questline either.

Katja/Bonnie seems to know them well enough though, she even knows Walter's surname, worth noting that a second Bonnie fight is the last main Succubus in the in game switches, implying she might be the final boss. Trying to walk out of the college when you start a new game also gives away that she's been there since the start.

Another thing worth noting is that a catalyst isn't consumed and remains unchanged after a reaction, gives me the feeling Miki will be fine.

 

[NwSColeh]

Not much that hasn't been said yet, but I was always under the impression the nihtlings aren't too aware of Dilan being a Katalist.

Trent is even friendly to you at the start, and it's only after the mines where Trent sends Walter to kill you, which would be unbelievably stupid if they knew beforehand, and Beatrice would have surely warned them instead of letting Walter get mogged. Dilan isn't being watched by the teachers until he starts Macky's questline either.

Katja/Bonnie seems to know them well enough though, she even knows Walter's surname, worth noting that a second Bonnie fight is the last main Succubus in the in game switches, implying she might be the final boss. Trying to walk out of the college when you start a new game also gives away that she's been there since the start.

Another thing worth noting is that a catalyst isn't consumed and remains unchanged after a reaction, gives me the feeling Miki will be fine.

Restarted the game to see the scene for myself, that's a very cool find you got ^^
Given the _ _ _ of the speaker name, I feel there's a chance it doesn't refer to Katja or Bonnie, but then no one else seems as controlling of Dilan as they are. With the final boss status in mind though, I buy the idea of them/her having observed the whole situation from the beginning.

Where can Trent be found before entering the mines btw? I think I met him once that way, but don't remember exactly
I missed how the staff only started keeping an eye on Dilan after the incident, though if we still work with the notion of the Nihtlings already being aware of Dilan being a Katalist, we have some possible explanations:

• Dilan was perceived as a controlled variable that posed little threat, such that the Night Walkers treated him like any other student.
• The Nihtlings' knowledge of a Katalist's nature extends only as far as "a container that can hold succubi and Niht's essences."

For the second one, I am going against what I posted before, but there is a chance that the Gatastate administration's intelligence network isn't as complete as the more clued-in succubi's.

Got a question: what prompted the teachers to start surveilling Dilan during Macky's questline? I never managed to get a lot of progress in it

 

[GOATeed]

Not much that hasn't been said yet, but I was always under the impression the nihtlings aren't too aware of Dilan being a Katalist.

Trent is even friendly to you at the start, and it's only after the mines where Trent sends Walter to kill you, which would be unbelievably stupid if they knew beforehand, and Beatrice would have surely warned them instead of letting Walter get mogged. Dilan isn't being watched by the teachers until he starts Macky's questline either.

Katja/Bonnie seems to know them well enough though, she even knows Walter's surname, worth noting that a second Bonnie fight is the last main Succubus in the in game switches, implying she might be the final boss. Trying to walk out of the college when you start a new game also gives away that she's been there since the start.

Another thing worth noting is that a catalyst isn't consumed and remains unchanged after a reaction, gives me the feeling Miki will be fine.

Maybe they didn't know Dilan as a Katalist at the very beginning but, him being transfered ( when they never accept transfer student basically ) and the principal seemingly wanting to protect him is weird.

Then why Walter tried to kill him ? Maybe his body is enough to achieve what they have in mind ?

As for Miki, as said earlier the risks of the character dying or getting permanent heavy changes are almost 0 because of her sprites and her development is still in early stages. ( She's also the only representative of her fetish for now )

Now she will be fine but I wonder if thd Nihtlings will achieve their goal or not. Given where we are in the story and the amount of preparation they did i do see them succeed in their plan. Maybe it will be the first big pivotal point of the scenario.

 

[Blemished_One]

Guys, stop it... This is just a porn game, right? Riiiight?