RPGM Katalist [v0.097.6] [Tearycian]

[GearlessJoe]

The notion that you have to pay for something in order to have a "right" to complain about it is one I completely disagree with. It's a bit surprising that people in a porn game piracy site don't share this ideal, but we should be able to say whatever we want about Katalist, whenever we want, and for whatever reason, regardless of whether we're supporting Teary financially or not.
The only thing we can't have a right to, is having our criticisms being heard and taken into consideration by Teary himself, but that includes Patreon backers and "freeloaders" alike. It's Teary's game and he's gonna do whatever he wants with it, so if there's a group of people being entitled, it's the ones that think they have more of a say in Katalist's development just because they threw a couple of bucks Teary's way.
And yeah, even knowing that Teary will ultimately do whatever the hell he wants, and that he's unlikely to hear me or someone of the same opinion out, I still think it's worth it to voice our criticisms in the hopes that he'll listen (and it's also therapeutic).

Whatever the case, people would do well to undo the consumerism brainwashing that's telling them that only buyers have rights, as opposed to everyone regardless of their financial decisions.

 

[Arubedoo]

What the guy above said, plus the fact patrons being less likely to voice negative opinions as we've seen with other games (not generalizing here). That type of behavior only leads to the creator thinking it's okay to keep going down that path.

That said, I believe Teary genuinely still wants to keep the original pace going, regardless of how things turned out recently.
But that's specifically why it's important to let him know about our discontent, BECAUSE he still does seem to care.

 

[SurprisedMoth]

am stuck in beverlys route again I think after update it will be fixed

shes always say this and I cant progress.

I think that's because in this scene you are teleported from classes to library. When you are teleported just exit the library and come back in to study. I think everything works well if you do that.

 

[kashmoney]

Are people actually excited for a bugfixing update? 0.092 obviously just an excuse for Teary to delay the next update, since there was no way in hell it was coming out this month like he said.
There's some contexts where it's good to be cynical, and I think this is one of them bros.

the game was literally unplayable my g, unlike you, most of us won't even bother spending 6 hours looking up rocket blueprints to get pissed on by some preschooler in a videogame on(this is not an insult, it was added for comedic proposes only). so for me at least, just being able to play the game is good. nevermind additional content, and why why would you want more broken shit in your already broken game? more content to not reach because of bugs?

 

[GearlessJoe]

the game was literally unplayable my g, unlike you, most of us won't even bother spending 6 hours looking up rocket blueprints to get pissed on by some preschooler in a videogame on(this is not an insult, it was added for comedic proposes only). so for me at least, just being able to play the game is good. nevermind additional content, and why why would you want more broken shit in your already broken game? more content to not reach because of bugs?

Oh, so you're the type of guy to say "Thank you" when the waiter removes the fly from your soup?
Katalist has always been buggy as fuck, this latest update wasn't much more "unplayable" than the last. Instead of being happy that stuff gets delayed for bugfixing, you should be unhappy that bugfixing needs to happen in the first place. Respect yourself.

Also since I'm on a pessimistic mood lately, here are some predictions for 0.092, feel free to quote this whenever it gets released:
* It isn't coming out in December
* The additional content will be miniscule
* It isn't even going to fix most bugs

I'd love for Teary to prove me wrong, but I'm doubting that he will.

 

[Jegal Taek]

Oh, so you're the type of guy to say "Thank you" when the waiter removes the fly from your soup?
Katalist has always been buggy as fuck, this latest update wasn't much more "unplayable" than the last. Instead of being happy that stuff gets delayed for bugfixing, you should be unhappy that bugfixing needs to happen in the first place. Respect yourself.

Also since I'm on a pessimistic mood lately, here are some predictions for 0.092, feel free to quote this whenever it gets released:
* It isn't coming out in December
* The additional content will be miniscule
* It isn't even going to fix most bugs

I'd love for Teary to prove me wrong, but I'm doubting that he will.

i respect myself bro thats why i dont always complain about a porn game, man like i get it you are mad but this much bro? come on i really dont get it

 

[DemonLord98]

Oh, so you're the type of guy to say "Thank you" when the waiter removes the fly from your soup?
Katalist has always been buggy as fuck, this latest update wasn't much more "unplayable" than the last. Instead of being happy that stuff gets delayed for bugfixing, you should be unhappy that bugfixing needs to happen in the first place. Respect yourself.

Also since I'm on a pessimistic mood lately, here are some predictions for 0.092, feel free to quote this whenever it gets released:
* It isn't coming out in December
* The additional content will be miniscule
* It isn't even going to fix most bugs

I'd love for Teary to prove me wrong, but I'm doubting that he will.

Bug-fixing will always be a thing dude. Even OG video games had lots of bugs.

 

[GearlessJoe]

i respect myself bro thats why i dont always complain about a porn game, man like i get it you are mad but this much bro? come on i really dont get it

Know what's more pathetic than me bitching about Teary and Katalist? You bitching about me bitching about Teary and Katalist. Have some self-awareness my dude.

Bug-fixing will always be a thing dude. Even OG video games had lots of bugs.

Bug-fixing is indeed a thing... a thing you're supposed to do before launching updates, not after. And yes, some bugs can get through, but this many and this bad? No, that sort of shit either doesn't happen, or it's extremely rare and it's followed up by an instant hotfix that at least makes the game playable. Even Boda, for all their glaring flaws, got this stuff right. I used to overlook it in Teary because he was inexperienced but that's no longer the case and he shows no signs of improving, it's about time it was addressed.

 

[Jegal Taek]

Know what's more pathetic than me bitching about Teary and Katalist? You bitching about me bitching about Teary and Katalist. Have some self-awareness my dude.

Bug-fixing is indeed a thing... a thing you're supposed to do before launching updates, not after. And yes, some bugs can get through, but this many and this bad? No, that sort of shit either doesn't happen, or it's extremely rare and it's followed up by an instant hotfix that at least makes the game playable. Even Boda, for all their glaring flaws, got this stuff right. I used to overlook it in Teary because he was inexperienced but that's no longer the case and he shows no signs of improving, it's about time it was addressed.

like dude you are so delusional you come here bitching all 7/24 and i watched you like doing this for 1or2 year 2 years you are doing exact same thing here and you attack anyone that says something sure man if you want to get attention somehow and this is your way good for you i guess

 

[GearlessJoe]

like dude you are so delusional you come here bitching all 7/24 and i watched you like doing this for 1or2 year 2 years you are doing exact same thing here and you attack anyone that says something sure man if you want to get attention somehow and this is your way good for you i guess

Some people enjoy fishing, others like to collect stamps. Me? I'm a simple guy, I like to argue with strangers over the internet about indie porn game developers.
Bad jokes aside, we're both getting down in the mud, but at least I'm aware of it and I'm having fun regardless. You though? You're just mad bro. I can be the receipent of your redirected anger all you want, but at some point you'll have to ask yourself what you're so mad about.

 

[SurprisedMoth]

There are devs who can make games without many bugs. And there are devs who can't. Some can make bugfixes fast, some can't. Teary made an announcement to release the update by the end of Novemder and I'm sure he had a bugfest of a game to that deadline. And when he made a delay to fix bugs people startad shouting "Koda!" and casting curses (hehe). So he had to release anything (I would've wanted my pp back ASAP too).
It's not the first time Katalist update is buggy, not the first time it's delayed. Yes, that sucks. What's the point discussing same stuff over and over again in different threads each time? Pretty sure it won't make devs do bugfix better and work faster. They have their skills and limited time to spend on project. And few pages of complaints won't help with any of these.

 

[GearlessJoe]

There are devs who can make games without many bugs. And there are devs who can't.

There are shit devs and there are good devs, what you don't seem to be getting is that you aren't supposed to stay a shit dev forever. People are supposed to learn from their mistakes and get better.

Some can make bugfixes fast, some can't.

What went on with 0.08 and Mackey/Beverly content is pretty much unheard of. A whole bunch of new content being so buggy to the point of being unplayable, and the dev never releasing a hotfix to solve that, even with the community having found make-shift solutions? Stop trying to normalize it, it's not a common occurrence even among inexperienced, solo, part-time devs, it's not okay.

Teary made an announcement to release the update by the end of Novemder and I'm sure he had a bugfest of a game to that deadline. And when he made a delay to fix bugs people startad shouting "Koda!" and casting curses (hehe). So he had to release anything (I would've wanted my pp back ASAP too).

There were multiple deadlines being missed, and Teary released 0.09 long after people started complaining and curses were being cast. Even in your fantasy scenario that's extremely charitable to Teary, you're making him out to be a severely incompetent game developer, who can't make any piece of new content without a ton of things going wrong in the process.
It's been roughly a year and a half, Teary's supposed to be getting better, not worse.

It's not the first time Katalist update is buggy, not the first time it's delayed. Yes, that sucks. What's the point discussing same stuff over and over again in different threads each time? Pretty sure it won't make devs do bugfix better and work faster. They have their skills and limited time to spend on project. And few pages of complaints won't help with any of these.

So because it's happened multiple times now, we're supposed to let it go and think of it as the new normal? That's how you get ToT 2.0.
And yeah, maybe Teary won't get anything out of this, but staying silent and not saying anything would be a lot less fruitful, because then there'd be absolutely zero chance of him getting his shit together.

 

[cheeldoolb]

It's not mentioned explicitly in the changelog so I thought I'd point that out - at v0.08(I think) teary switched to some form of external event loading plugin system which was not present in the initial versions. Lack of such a system is what makes developing in rpgm really shitty, and to my eye as a programmer it is the biggest red flag present in all similar projects, so I was glad to see teary addressing that. To keep it simple, it allows the dev to avoid copypasting lots of dialogue data across all the relevant maps and reduces amount of dumb busywork and potential errors that come from that.
That said, from missing Beverley events and other bugs I could surmise that teary is not yet used to using that system. Furthermore, it is unfortunate that required bugfixes were not released timely, conveniently or at all. I am hoping teary will take time to figure out how to make small patches efficiently without reuploading the entire 1.5gigs of animated succubus ass and shitload of WIP content contained in the project (I assume that's what kept him from doing bugfixes). To my knowledge, rpgmaker doesn't offer any convenient tools for version numbering or keeping track of what goes in builds and what doesn't, so it's a bit of a bitch and has to be learned separately and done manually.

Regarding v0.09, I am sure everyone could see a number of UI reworks and other engine changes, it was more obvious than the v0.08 thing. Unfortunately, it isn't realistic to expect stable builds from teary at this stage of development, especially from updates that still change the under-the-hood systems. I find it quite unfortunate myself, that I still can't recommend this game in good conscience because of all the bugs.
However, I believe it is not accurate to say that teary is not improving or not trying to address the development issues. It is currently a rough, unpolished mess with trivial mistakes like leaving the noclip flag enabled, but in my eye teary is trying to take the intelligent approach to development and it will pay off in the long run.

 

[DemonLord98]

It's not mentioned explicitly in the changelog so I thought I'd point that out - at v0.08(I think) teary switched to some form of external event loading plugin system which was not present in the initial versions. Lack of such a system is what makes developing in rpgm really shitty, and to my eye as a programmer it is the biggest red flag present in all similar projects, so I was glad to see teary addressing that. To keep it simple, it allows the dev to avoid copypasting lots of dialogue data across all the relevant maps and reduces amount of dumb busywork and potential errors that come from that.
That said, from missing Beverley events and other bugs I could surmise that teary is not yet used to using that system. Furthermore, it is unfortunate that required bugfixes were not released timely, conveniently or at all. I am hoping teary will take time to figure out how to make small patches efficiently without reuploading the entire 1.5gigs of animated succubus ass and shitload of WIP content contained in the project (I assume that's what kept him from doing bugfixes). To my knowledge, rpgmaker doesn't offer any convenient tools for version numbering or keeping track of what goes in builds and what doesn't, so it's a bit of a bitch and has to be learned separately and done manually.

Regarding v0.09, I am sure everyone could see a number of UI reworks and other engine changes, it was more obvious than the v0.08 thing. Unfortunately, it isn't realistic to expect stable builds from teary at this stage of development, especially from updates that still change the under-the-hood systems. I find it quite unfortunate myself, that I still can't recommend this game in good conscience because of all the bugs.
However, I believe it is not accurate to say that teary is not improving or not trying to address the development issues. It is currently a rough, unpolished mess with trivial mistakes like leaving the noclip flag enabled, but in my eye teary is trying to take the intelligent approach to development and it will pay off in the long run.

Bro is trying to learn new shit. Plus it's not like Boda who make over like 10K a month on subs. That said he DOES need better management on his schedule and shit.

 

[Joseph9999]

Why doesn't the gallery do anything? Anyone able to open the gallery?

 

[Deleted member 1587747]

I think that's because in this scene you are teleported from classes to library. When you are teleported just exit the library and come back in to study. I think everything works well if you do that.

I try this its not work

 

[Shado10]

is there any sort of a walktrough ? I feel like totally lost..

 

[Nait Sieve]

is there any sort of a walktrough ? I feel like totally lost..

there you go

 

[Deleted member 2602227]

Can anyone link changelog for 0.09? I kind of promised myself not to talk here any more, though I don't want to try out every girl to see new content, would anyone please link changelog? I will probably manage to kill myself before most of these games reach completed status!

 

[kbutler]

Can anyone link changelog for 0.09? I kind of promised myself not to talk here any more, though I don't want to try out every girl to see new content, would anyone please link changelog? I will probably manage to kill myself before most of these games reach completed status!

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