VN Ren'Py Kingdom of Deception [v0.14.2.2] [Hreinn Games]

[Belly97]

You should edit your first post instead of doubleposting.

Also I don't understand the question.

I think he means when you have to meet Neve at night to receive the letter.

 

[Denizen]

How do you change from day to night used to changed after a while in previous updates but since version 0.54 dissent anymore playing on android

If I am correct there should be an option in your tent. Though can't tell if android is just screweing you up (though it shouldn't)

 

[huyhp6000]

i need save file 0.6.4

 

[561397]

Can anyone share the last patreon post pls?

 

[CyderRyder]

I think that route has the most fans on this site yet the game is extremely barren on that type of content, in 0.1-0-4 patches it was more frequent and then they toned it down for whatever reason.
Sad really.

I think the reason is that Patreon started cracking down on games with rape and incest in them, they had to cut out the rape in the beginning because of it, they probably had a lot of ideas for Tekrok content but now can't use it. Well i hope that's the reason and not that they just couldn't be bothered to actually work on him.

 

[Dragon139]

I think the reason is that Patreon started cracking down on games with rape and incest in them, they had to cut out the rape in the beginning because of it

I thought they cut it because it didn't fit the pacing of the game.

 

[bettercallpaul]

I thought they cut it because it didn't fit the pacing of the game.

I believe that's why they cut the initial rape content as well. While Patreon has been cracking down a bit on incest/rape and the like, I believe so long as it is not outright advertised on the patreon page itself then it's fine. For example, Milfy City is still up on Patreon without issues and I mean....can't get much more incest-y than that one. They just don't shove it in your face on their page now.

 

[DraegSOR]

Anybody know why there's a crash after completing the bandit camp raid? It's a fresh install, only thing I've done is copy paste my saves into the files.


I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
Exception: Could not find return label (u'C:\\Users\\UserAccount\\Dropbox\\Kingdom of Deception/game/04Eastern Frontier Map.rpy', 1526727003, 398).

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
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File "D:\Games\RPG maker\Kingdom_of_Deception-pc\renpy\ast.py", line 1448, in execute
next_node(renpy.game.context().lookup_return(pop=True))
File "D:\Games\RPG maker\Kingdom_of_Deception-pc\renpy\execution.py", line 629, in lookup_return
raise Exception("Could not find return label {!r}.".format(self.return_stack[-1]))
Exception: Could not find return label (u'C:\\Users\\UserAccount\\Dropbox\\Kingdom of Deception/game/04Eastern Frontier Map.rpy', 1526727003, 398).

 

[ChaosSorceress]

I'm sad to say that I'm ready to write this game off. I don't know why but after a promising first chapter every additional update has been disappointing. Not only have the updates been taking ages to come out (Noxian Nights had a 4-5 week release schedule, Kingdom of Deception takes several months) but the content of KoD just isn't at the level of NN. Sure the early NN suffered from a lack of good scenes that featured the protagonist (Riven) but it eventually fixed that in the later updates after her corruption. KoD on the other hand started out strong on that front and has gotten weaker over time. Like why the fuck is there finally a Hellhound scene and Sabia is not the one getting fucked? How come the most intense Tekrok scenes all occurred at the start and now he's pretty chill? What is even the point of having a female protagonist if you aren't going to feature her as the main girl getting railed all the time? I understand having "voyeur" type scenes in a game with a male protagonist but here it just makes no sense. I'm not playing as the entire female cast, I'm playing as Sabia. Unless they are currently doing something with Sabia I couldn't give two shits what the rest of the girls get up to.

Ah well. People are still willing to support this game after the pace of updates and the quality of them has gone down the drain, so we only have ourselves to blame.

 

[I Love These Games]

Can someone tell me what it says in Bars and Tents post on Patreon? Please

 

[bettercallpaul]

I'm sad to say that I'm ready to write this game off. I don't know why but after a promising first chapter every additional update has been disappointing. Not only have the updates been taking ages to come out (Noxian Nights had a 4-5 week release schedule, Kingdom of Deception takes several months) but the content of KoD just isn't at the level of NN. Sure the early NN suffered from a lack of good scenes that featured the protagonist (Riven) but it eventually fixed that in the later updates after her corruption. KoD on the other hand started out strong on that front and has gotten weaker over time. Like why the fuck is there finally a Hellhound scene and Sabia is not the one getting fucked? How come the most intense Tekrok scenes all occurred at the start and now he's pretty chill? What is even the point of having a female protagonist if you aren't going to feature her as the main girl getting railed all the time? I understand having "voyeur" type scenes in a game with a male protagonist but here it just makes no sense. I'm not playing as the entire female cast, I'm playing as Sabia. Unless they are currently doing something with Sabia I couldn't give two shits what the rest of the girls get up to.

Ah well. People are still willing to support this game after the pace of updates and the quality of them has gone down the drain, so we only have ourselves to blame.

I completely agree with your points. I was a patron for several months, and i still like the game and art style, but i can't help contribute financially given the last few updates and the steadily declining quality. The payoff for the added months of waiting just isn't there. I hope they turn things around, and I'll go right back to supporting if they do, but for now it's too hard to justify.

 

[bigpenniser]

I'm sad to say that I'm ready to write this game off. I don't know why but after a promising first chapter every additional update has been disappointing. Not only have the updates been taking ages to come out (Noxian Nights had a 4-5 week release schedule, Kingdom of Deception takes several months) but the content of KoD just isn't at the level of NN. Sure the early NN suffered from a lack of good scenes that featured the protagonist (Riven) but it eventually fixed that in the later updates after her corruption. KoD on the other hand started out strong on that front and has gotten weaker over time. Like why the fuck is there finally a Hellhound scene and Sabia is not the one getting fucked? How come the most intense Tekrok scenes all occurred at the start and now he's pretty chill? What is even the point of having a female protagonist if you aren't going to feature her as the main girl getting railed all the time? I understand having "voyeur" type scenes in a game with a male protagonist but here it just makes no sense. I'm not playing as the entire female cast, I'm playing as Sabia. Unless they are currently doing something with Sabia I couldn't give two shits what the rest of the girls get up to.

Ah well. People are still willing to support this game after the pace of updates and the quality of them has gone down the drain, so we only have ourselves to blame.

But you dont get it. She is supposed to be a strong independent woman thablahblahblahblahblah then dont make a porn game.

The quality of the updates gets worse every time they release one. Fewer scenes, worse drawing, the story does not move forward. Its come to a point where the game is just boring.

 

[Dragon139]

I've been waiting till the game was sufficiently updated before playing through it again, each update I see the changes and decide to keep waiting.

 

[MasterBlaxter]

Well, the biggest issue people seem to be having with the actual content being put out, independent of the long release schedule issues, is that KoD is turning out to be a lot more like The Last Sovereign, with its focus on plot and systems and character development over porn, than Noxian Nights, which was a cookie-cutter RPGMaker fuckfest from start to finish that made you go out and whack goblins every so often where the characters bore only a passing resemblance to the originals. Sabia herself can be played more like Simon if she's on the Dom path or Riven if she's on the sub, but the differences go beyond that.

Sabia is much more of a rounded character than Riven was, for example. Even on the sub path, sex is clearly a tool for her. You can make her fuck everyone she can to gain an advantage or a favor, but she's not going to just go down and work the tents for the fuck of it. The solution Hreinn seems to have decided on to compensate for the drop in Sabia dickings is to feature the other girls - Neve, Ylva, Maply, Vehlis and Elmy - in a variety of other sexual situations. Now, in Noxian Nights Irelia and Katerina had their own scenes as well, both solo and group events where Riven either wasn't around or wasn't participating, and no one had a problem with that because Riven was getting a bunch of scenes herself and had a few repeatable scenes unique to her. Sabia by contrast is having LESS sex as time goes on and no repeatable scenes at all.

Now, the argument can certainly be made that Sabia having less sex makes sense, even if she is a sub, because she's reached a point where she doesn't need to fuck as much any more to gain power. By this point in the story she has her own raiding group, has solidified her position as a rising power within the tribe, and theoretically has enough lundils to avoid working in the goddamn General Store again, though every update keeps proving me wrong on that last point. But that argument goes to my original point, which is that KoD's first priority is clearly not the porn. Which is all well and good, but I can see why people who were expecting Noxian Nights: Copyright Free Renpy Edition would be increasingly disappointed by the game's trajectory.

Truth be told, I think KoD is at its best when it's focused on the character interaction and at its worst whenever it makes me play Simon Says: Silver Swords Edition (Now with 200% more MOMENTUM) (Also Featuring the WILD AXE from Jadk's Bar). I can't say I play it for good faps. I realized early on that wasn't what it was going to be focusing on. Honestly, there are only two scenes I have fapped to in KoD, and both of them have been done better elsewhere.

TLDR: If you're into KoD for the characters and story, playing every update will probably be worth it for you. If you just want to see Sabia fuck an ever-increasing variety of penises, you're better off waiting for every other update, at best, or finding something else to spend your money on (assuming such folk are among us).

 

[bigpenniser]

Well, the biggest issue people seem to be having with the actual content being put out, independent of the long release schedule issues, is that KoD is turning out to be a lot more like The Last Sovereign, with its focus on plot and systems and character development over porn, than Noxian Nights, which was a cookie-cutter RPGMaker fuckfest from start to finish that made you go out and whack goblins every so often where the characters bore only a passing resemblance to the originals. Sabia herself can be played more like Simon if she's on the Dom path or Riven if she's on the sub, but the differences go beyond that.

Sabia is much more of a rounded character than Riven was, for example. Even on the sub path, sex is clearly a tool for her. You can make her fuck everyone she can to gain an advantage or a favor, but she's not going to just go down and work the tents for the fuck of it. The solution Hreinn seems to have decided on to compensate for the drop in Sabia dickings is to feature the other girls - Neve, Ylva, Maply, Vehlis and Elmy - in a variety of other sexual situations. Now, in Noxian Nights Irelia and Katerina had their own scenes as well, both solo and group events where Riven either wasn't around or wasn't participating, and no one had a problem with that because Riven was getting a bunch of scenes herself and had a few repeatable scenes unique to her. Sabia by contrast is having LESS sex as time goes on and no repeatable scenes at all.

Now, the argument can certainly be made that Sabia having less sex makes sense, even if she is a sub, because she's reached a point where she doesn't need to fuck as much any more to gain power. By this point in the story she has her own raiding group, has solidified her position as a rising power within the tribe, and theoretically has enough lundils to avoid working in the goddamn General Store again, though every update keeps proving me wrong on that last point. But that argument goes to my original point, which is that KoD's first priority is clearly not the porn. Which is all well and good, but I can see why people who were expecting Noxian Nights: Copyright Free Renpy Edition would be increasingly disappointed by the game's trajectory.

Truth be told, I think KoD is at its best when it's focused on the character interaction and at its worst whenever it makes me play Simon Says: Silver Swords Edition (Now with 200% more MOMENTUM) (Also Featuring the WILD AXE from Jadk's Bar). I can't say I play it for good faps. I realized early on that wasn't what it was going to be focusing on. Honestly, there are only two scenes I have fapped to in KoD, and both of them have been done better elsewhere.

TLDR: If you're into KoD for the characters and story, playing every update will probably be worth it for you. If you just want to see Sabia fuck an ever-increasing variety of penises, you're better off waiting for every other update, at best, or finding something else to spend your money on (assuming such folk are among us).

Where is that focus on the plot my man? The story has not advanced at all since like the 3rd(?) update. The game is extremely boring right now, in all its facets.

 

[MasterBlaxter]

Where is that focus on the plot my man? The story has not advanced at all since like the 3rd(?) update. The game is extremely boring right now, in all its facets.

Depends on what aspect of the story you mean. If you mean the big, overarching "Sabia's mom and the mages are building some dasterdly project and plotting to take Lundar for themselves" storyline, that hasn't gone anywhere for a couple updates now, true, and I'll address that in a moment. If you mean Sabia's personal quest, this last update is the first time it felt like that stalled out somewhat. The first update was the trial and Sabia carving out a place for herself within the tribe, the second was the cat-girl raid and Sabia ascending to a decision-making position within the tribe, the third was the Feast where Sabia cemented her importance in tribal politics, either to a Captain of her choice or as the leader of her own faction, the fourth was the Red God's Arena where Sabia proved herself worthy enough to be granted command of an orcish raiding party, and the fifth was Sabia taking her first steps as a true power within the tribe and striking out beyond the walls of the camp itself.

Now, this last update felt like Sabia was spinning her wheels, to be sure, but Hreinn has said that's because they wanted to get several side stories done before focusing on the next major step for Sabia, which involves her infiltrating some kind of cat-girl gathering going by the previews they've mentioned. But Sabia's personal story has been advancing every update until now. The overarching Troubles in Lundar stuff has been put on the backburner, but Sabia won't have to deal with that for a long time anyway so that's not really a big deal. The tribal politics has had a more splintered focus, depending on whether or not you're siding with a Captain or not, but that feels more like it's done as much as it can for now. Sabia is ultimately using the orcs and once she has her own squad it makes sense she wouldn't bother with the Captains or the tribe as much as she did before. Any further upheavals would be major events like the death of Warchief Groknak that will probably happen eventually but don't seem to be a priority right now. The human side of things with Governor Andian is slowly coming into focus, but Sabia doesn't seem too concerned about it as of yet.

Now, if your main complaint regarding how boring the game has gotten boils down to "Sabia isn't getting fucked enough" I addressed that with my last post and don't feel like I can add anything further. But the plot has been moving ahead. I certainly would prefer the updates to come out at a faster pace, but there's nothing I can do about that.

 

[bigpenniser]

Depends on what aspect of the story you mean. If you mean the big, overarching "Sabia's mom and the mages are building some dasterdly project and plotting to take Lundar for themselves" storyline, that hasn't gone anywhere for a couple updates now, true, and I'll address that in a moment. If you mean Sabia's personal quest, this last update is the first time it felt like that stalled out somewhat. The first update was the trial and Sabia carving out a place for herself within the tribe, the second was the cat-girl raid and Sabia ascending to a decision-making position within the tribe, the third was the Feast where Sabia cemented her importance in tribal politics, either to a Captain of her choice or as the leader of her own faction, the fourth was the Red God's Arena where Sabia proved herself worthy enough to be granted command of an orcish raiding party, and the fifth was Sabia taking her first steps as a true power within the tribe and striking out beyond the walls of the camp itself.

Now, this last update felt like Sabia was spinning her wheels, to be sure, but Hreinn has said that's because they wanted to get several side stories done before focusing on the next major step for Sabia, which involves her infiltrating some kind of cat-girl gathering going by the previews they've mentioned. But Sabia's personal story has been advancing every update until now. The overarching Troubles in Lundar stuff has been put on the backburner, but Sabia won't have to deal with that for a long time anyway so that's not really a big deal. The tribal politics has had a more splintered focus, depending on whether or not you're siding with a Captain or not, but that feels more like it's done as much as it can for now. Sabia is ultimately using the orcs and once she has her own squad it makes sense she wouldn't bother with the Captains or the tribe as much as she did before. Any further upheavals would be major events like the death of Warchief Groknak that will probably happen eventually but don't seem to be a priority right now. The human side of things with Governor Andian is slowly coming into focus, but Sabia doesn't seem too concerned about it as of yet.

Now, if your main complaint regarding how boring the game has gotten boils down to "Sabia isn't getting fucked enough" I addressed that with my last post and don't feel like I can add anything further. But the plot has been moving ahead. I certainly would prefer the updates to come out at a faster pace, but there's nothing I can do about that.

Absolutely no need to write an essay, you answered at the beginning. So indeed you recognize that there is no plot development. Thanks.

 

[MasterBlaxter]

Absolutely no need to write an essay, you answered at the beginning. So indeed you recognize that there is no plot development. Thanks.

No. The overall tale is about Sabia and her journey from backstabbed, cast off sibling to ruler of Lundar (or Bad End of your choice). That is the main story thread, and aside from this last update that was focused on sidestories, it's been advanced with every update. Tyria's and Lynn's machinations are part of her story, to be sure, and eventually Sabia will have to confront them, but they're not the main story thread and we don't need constant updates about whatever it is they're up to. It seems to me that you're conflating the two ideas. But then, I wouldn't have bothered qualifying my argument if I'd known you were going to cherrypick the first line because it seemed to agree with you out of context, ignore everything else I wrote, and then declare that clearly I agreed with you. So I suppose I'll stop now.

 

[bigpenniser]

big, overarching storyline that hasn't gone anywhere for a couple updates

Whatever man. You just accepted that the story doesnt advance and then rumbled about what they did put in the game to make it seem better because you like the game.

You dont seem to get it anyways so fuck it.

 

[random.person]

I think the reason is that Patreon started cracking down on games with rape and incest in them, they had to cut out the rape in the beginning because of it, they probably had a lot of ideas for Tekrok content but now can't use it. Well i hope that's the reason and not that they just couldn't be bothered to actually work on him.

This is a common misconception, Patreon's change of terms isn't the reason for that scene's removal. The official explanation is linked to the game's narrative pace.

I'm sad to say that I'm ready to write this game off. I don't know why but after a promising first chapter every additional update has been disappointing. Not only have the updates been taking ages to come out (Noxian Nights had a 4-5 week release schedule, Kingdom of Deception takes several months) but the content of KoD just isn't at the level of NN. Sure the early NN suffered from a lack of good scenes that featured the protagonist (Riven) but it eventually fixed that in the later updates after her corruption. KoD on the other hand started out strong on that front and has gotten weaker over time. Like why the fuck is there finally a Hellhound scene and Sabia is not the one getting fucked? How come the most intense Tekrok scenes all occurred at the start and now he's pretty chill? What is even the point of having a female protagonist if you aren't going to feature her as the main girl getting railed all the time? I understand having "voyeur" type scenes in a game with a male protagonist but here it just makes no sense. I'm not playing as the entire female cast, I'm playing as Sabia. Unless they are currently doing something with Sabia I couldn't give two shits what the rest of the girls get up to.

Ah well. People are still willing to support this game after the pace of updates and the quality of them has gone down the drain, so we only have ourselves to blame.

The point is that this game turned out to be not he kind of game most people expected. It's just not a game about playing a female character who gets increasingly corrupted and sluttier. It's not modeled after the classic JRPG games of the corruption genre, like NN was.
And, honestly, it should've been clear from the start to everyone that thought otherwise, because the emphasis put on a realistic world and on complex narrative is a dead giveaway that this game is not like NN. The latter was on the derpy side of the spectrum, the narrative never took itself too seriously. KoD on the other hand is a serious game from the start, it's all about power and political struggles in a land of racial prejudices and wars.
If that doesn't tell you that you won't be going around getting your brain wired to like being fucked left and right, well, you're at fault for deluding yourself because the game doesn't even try to hide its realistic-fantasy nature. It's still an adult game where sex is a focus, but that doesn't mean that sex is always the end, sometimes it's just the mean to a wider end of delivering a good visual novel.
And visual novels, by definition, are very akin to novels, they're about a story delivered through text and visuals.

But you dont get it. She is supposed to be a strong independent woman thablahblahblahblahblah then dont make a porn game.

The quality of the updates gets worse every time they release one. Fewer scenes, worse drawing, the story does not move forward. Its come to a point where the game is just boring.

I am no SJW and indeed I hate SJWs (they ruined my Star Wars and are ruining Linux, those damned ***), but your first argument makes no sense. A strong and independent woman can totally be the main character of a porn game. Not all porn revolves around the woman being submissive and getting degraded. There are people into femdom as well.
Your statement is just narrow-sighted and probably influenced by your taste, which is also actually a taste of mine, but that doesn't mean there can't be a porn game with a strong feminine lead.

Well, the biggest issue people seem to be having with the actual content being put out, independent of the long release schedule issues, is that KoD is turning out to be a lot more like The Last Sovereign, with its focus on plot and systems and character development over porn, than Noxian Nights, which was a cookie-cutter RPGMaker fuckfest from start to finish that made you go out and whack goblins every so often where the characters bore only a passing resemblance to the originals. Sabia herself can be played more like Simon if she's on the Dom path or Riven if she's on the sub, but the differences go beyond that.

Sabia is much more of a rounded character than Riven was, for example. Even on the sub path, sex is clearly a tool for her. You can make her fuck everyone she can to gain an advantage or a favor, but she's not going to just go down and work the tents for the fuck of it. The solution Hreinn seems to have decided on to compensate for the drop in Sabia dickings is to feature the other girls - Neve, Ylva, Maply, Vehlis and Elmy - in a variety of other sexual situations. Now, in Noxian Nights Irelia and Katerina had their own scenes as well, both solo and group events where Riven either wasn't around or wasn't participating, and no one had a problem with that because Riven was getting a bunch of scenes herself and had a few repeatable scenes unique to her. Sabia by contrast is having LESS sex as time goes on and no repeatable scenes at all.

Now, the argument can certainly be made that Sabia having less sex makes sense, even if she is a sub, because she's reached a point where she doesn't need to fuck as much any more to gain power. By this point in the story she has her own raiding group, has solidified her position as a rising power within the tribe, and theoretically has enough lundils to avoid working in the goddamn General Store again, though every update keeps proving me wrong on that last point. But that argument goes to my original point, which is that KoD's first priority is clearly not the porn. Which is all well and good, but I can see why people who were expecting Noxian Nights: Copyright Free Renpy Edition would be increasingly disappointed by the game's trajectory.

Truth be told, I think KoD is at its best when it's focused on the character interaction and at its worst whenever it makes me play Simon Says: Silver Swords Edition (Now with 200% more MOMENTUM) (Also Featuring the WILD AXE from Jadk's Bar). I can't say I play it for good faps. I realized early on that wasn't what it was going to be focusing on. Honestly, there are only two scenes I have fapped to in KoD, and both of them have been done better elsewhere.

TLDR: If you're into KoD for the characters and story, playing every update will probably be worth it for you. If you just want to see Sabia fuck an ever-increasing variety of penises, you're better off waiting for every other update, at best, or finding something else to spend your money on (assuming such folk are among us).

Finally someone who gets it.
Thank you for taking your time to write this up, I appreciate it.