- Jan 7, 2019
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Am I crazy in thinking that the writing in the new scenes is just atrocious? They feel so out of place compared to the old scenes, the dialogue feels incredibly modern and the descriptions feel utterly amateur.
Art is still great though, and the only reason I even bother with this game anymore.
Art is still great though, and the only reason I even bother with this game anymore.
- May 24, 2018
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I don't disagree, though there's much worse writing in other games on this site (Big Brother, My Cute Cousin, ughhh... *shivers*).
If you'll indulge a ramble for a bit, the thing that makes me scratch my head the most about the new scenes (aside from the Jadk thing) is that you're railroaded into dancing in the relief tents with the most fig leaf porn plot explanation possible. You're... gonna make a bid for warchief... by taking control of the brothel... and using yourself as one of the main attractions? Really?
If Sierra were still here that would probably still be in the game, but it would be the "lol I just wanna see Sabia get fucked and don't care if it makes no sense" option, and there would be multiple other paths to manipulate the warchief election. Which, to be fair, is probably why updates were always late and sparse on actual story progression.
If you'll indulge a ramble for a bit, the thing that makes me scratch my head the most about the new scenes (aside from the Jadk thing) is that you're railroaded into dancing in the relief tents with the most fig leaf porn plot explanation possible. You're... gonna make a bid for warchief... by taking control of the brothel... and using yourself as one of the main attractions? Really?
If Sierra were still here that would probably still be in the game, but it would be the "lol I just wanna see Sabia get fucked and don't care if it makes no sense" option, and there would be multiple other paths to manipulate the warchief election. Which, to be fair, is probably why updates were always late and sparse on actual story progression.
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maybe try to actually read two past thread pages
- Aug 11, 2017
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I have the latest version of the game and tried unren on it. Could enable the console and open it with no problem.
So unren alone should work without having to manually edit the files.
As a last resort since you seem to be having problems using unren with effect or editing, just do the following.
Extract the archive with the latest game version. Don't simply browse it with winrar. Extract it.
Then go to the game's folder (however it might be called), then in the renpy folder, then in the common folder and finally copy paste the attached file. When asked, say you want to substitute the original one.
Edit: make sure the downloaded file is still named 00console.rpy!
- Jul 2, 2017
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Hi everyone! We hope you enjoyed 0.7, and we’re excited to be providing more content for you.
Please keep in mind that we did already source a lot of information from our last post on this topic - but this feedback post is more on the mechanics and managing of the tents coding and art wise.
This is your chance to give us your specific input of what you imagine as fun with regards to managing the tents - we already have some firm ideas we’re excited to flesh out, but we just want to make sure we’re focusing our efforts on what people will like. We intend Sabia to be able to make use of the relief tents for not only the orc camp arc, but for the rest of the game. She’ll be able to manage them for information gathering, using them to help any soldiers and forces she might acquire relieve themselves of tension, as a place to send female enemies, and even participating in them by herself.
To that end, here are some points to consider for feedback and suggestions:
- Do you want to see minor unimportant characters in the tents, or only major characters?
- Do you want to see Sabia being able to train the catgirls or future girls from other races? A more dominant Sabia can punish them, and a more sub Sabia might join them. Would you like to see her be able to train personnel?
- How much control should Sabia have on specific characters? Change their outfits, influence how they service their clients, etc?
- Managing the tents: should Sabia be responsible for all characters personally, or should she have a ‘liaison’ of sorts that gives you all the information (i.e. statistics about how the tents are going, the girls you have working there, etc), and you distribute all the requirements/commands from?
- We’re thinking of adding a slave trainer mechanic - a dominant/slavery Sabia can enslave characters, and train/extract information from them (similar to the Riven mini game from NN). Do you have any comments or suggestions on the mechanics of something like this?
- Do you want to manage the actual tents? i.e. making the tents a progressively better place that is capable of attracting more customers, and unlocking more options - for example, buying better furniture, a new stage, having a supply of food and drink. Or just managing the girls themselves, and leaving this to the background? (This is an important question, because the options to do all these things will be intensive both artwise and coding. We only would want to invest the time and effort into this if it’s wanted.)
- One of the ideas we have involved the girls that will be working in the tents: they can either be important and story-involved characters, or a more background type of characters that are only important in the tents. In the case of the latter, we have discussed the possibility of having the character as a sort of ‘generic base/sprite’,similar to the current orc base/sprite, that you can dress up in different outfits, and see different CGs based on tent stat development.
So would you want fewer unique characters or more generic ones.
Based on all these points - or maybe a suggestion you might have - what is it that you want to see the most from Kingdom of Deception?
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- Oct 23, 2017
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Glad to see the tents getting love, seems this game is going in the right direction again. I know some people want Sierra back so she can continue with whatever she was writing, but Hreinn is making a smart financial decision by heavily appealing to what their fans want even if it's at the cost of believable writing. At the end of then day this is still a porn game and people want to fap to the main attraction which is Sabia getting dicked.
That said, where's my Jadk route?
That said, where's my Jadk route?
That's one interpretation of the main attraction I s'pose. For me it was specifically the writing, as the H-game market is already quite oversatured with variations of the "heroine getting dicked because lolplots" theme. (And tbqh the Japanese tend to do *that* better.)
something something lowest common denominator and design by committee
Heavily appealing to only one group of fans is only "smart financial decision" if that one group represent 80% or more of your fanbase. In every other case you risk turning off a portion (possibly quite a significant one) of your paying customers away, meaning you lost their money.
Considering how many of Hreinn Games Patreons came to them due to Sierra and her writing (and how many of them actually support both Hreinn Games and Sierra Lee!), moving away from Sierra's writing style and sacrificing "believable writing" for railroading players into situations that make little to no sense (like entire "make my bid for warchief by selling my body in brothel") does not seem like a "smart financial decision" in the long run. Dominant Sabia taking over the tents so she could "get dirt and blackmail opposition" could work, but dominant Sabia dancing (or more) there... not even by a long shot.
I feel that Nomo lost his direction and no longer know what he want his game to be all about... adding slave training or brothel manager mechanic to the game only serve to increase the confusion and turn the game into a one big (possibly unplayable) mess.
- Oct 23, 2017
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Sierra's writing is literally nothing special, I genuinely don't understand the endless praise it gets in this thread. Her apparently stellar writing wasn't helping much while this game went downhill over the past year. Obviously there's no pleasing everyone but I know that myself and a good amount of people are happy about the direction the game is going in now and if the next update continues in this direction I'd be more than happy to become a patron for this game again.
They said in their post that they still want to focus on the story first and foremost and don't plan on overstaying the tent content, but they're also going to listen to what the majority of their fans want. Given this reception that the last couple of updates received, this way of going forward is the most logical one.
Compared to what? Because the bar is kind of really low in "Western" H-games and not much higher in the Asian ones, and Sierra's certainly well above the average.
- May 24, 2018
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- May 24, 2018
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I want to do Manply & helhound, but I don't know where is Hellhound Kennels. Can anyone tell me where it is? PLEASE