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Does anyone know how to get past the quest with maply and a hellhound with in it, if you preveiously enslaved the catgirls? She just keeps refusing to talk to me after a certain point during the quest. It is preventing me from progressing the game any further.
 

AnubiSs2167

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I left a comment some time ago on patreon, will try here too since devs seem to browse this place aswell. I agree with what most ppl complain about. Game took wierd turn from trainer to some kind of vn/adventure game hybrid. U read and read just to view one scene then read and read again. Even worse, most stuff require money to progress and there is no fun way of geting money after 1st chapter. Spaming "hunting" in a forest for 3 weeks is not fun gameplay. This game needs trainer elements and reapatable scenes for it to be sustainable. 1 art can last much longer with slight changes if you guys provide context. If the game continues like this then every update ppl will grind for next scene while being frustrated by unfun "hold ctrl" gameplay, then view scene for 15 seconds and put the game down again in disapointment. Porgressing story with alot of text is ok if you give us scenes to break up the monotony. I know it sounds harsh but in the end the game is basicly a vehicle for viewing nomos art and give context to the scenes. We dont need great stories and huge fleshed out maps. Just gives us repeatable and random encounters in the camp involving sabia and orcs/hounds and make resaults and answers be effected by her stats or previous quests. Abandon progressing story or adding new characters untill you can make the game actually enjoable to play thru anything after 1st chapter. Reuse the scenes if u must but please, add porn to the porn game. Anyway thats my 5 cents. I wish the team best luck in the future.
 
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cuckofdecade

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For me personally.. I'm just gonna be writing thoughts in no order here so,
I discovered your work when you finished NN and shortly before starting KoD, NN was awesome for few reasons, and not necessarily related to the characters it parodied. They were unique in the H game sense, and there was a lot of roleplay in it, for example the scene where you could betray your teammate when she was kept as insurance in the minotaur camp was one of the hottest things. The endgame minigames were 30/10 too and I just prefer rpgm to renpy.

Now for KoD, it started amazing, hot muscular highborn girl alone in orc camp, with this premise it's really hard to go wrong but.. As someone mentioned she has a bit too much freedom for being prisoner, it's quite irrational, but you could use the excuse that there is too much going on in the camp for them to care. Yoruichi is also there to assure her, if she made appearance later it would make more sense for Sabia to lean towards sub behaviour.
Next, there are no small event decisions for Sabia, you pick one of the big routes and she autopilots with her proud personality (sub only player here, oops guilty, playing hgames for the hentai) the bar event is the biggest offender here, no choices, no variance, not even foreshadowing and the build up is in completely different direction. No repeatable scenes as said many times before, this is really silly, you only need to draw it once and it will fill the game, think from players prespective as well.

Honestly I'd describe KoD atm as one big cock tease, the theme is so flexible and good, yet it's like the good stuff is being avoided on purpose. I would make Sabia's personality more flexible early with each choice until she falls into either extreme then you can start branching the scenes. Basically I go sub route but she's still in the highborn commander Sabia mindset, instead of being just girl who submitted to orcs out of fear.
Now the story, while decent it really never kicked off, neither did the dialogue, the characters are rather weak for the most part. When I was replaying the 3rd time after update I found myself ctrl-ing through the new content I haven't read yet, with no regrets.. I'll give it a shot again now that you have new writer in 2019. Also, stop skipping best. content :rage: I don't doubt kod will evolve and eventually smoothens out with enough work in the right direction, the theme is just strong. Gl to you and the others.
 

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Here's my crunched version.

Image/audio/video quality is reduced to make shit smaller. This is not a perfect process and sometimes can break a game. You've been warned so no bitching.

Kingdom of Deception [v0.8.2] [Hreinn Games] - Original Size: 835MB
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Sinvx

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For me personally.. I'm just gonna be writing thoughts in no order here so,
I discovered your work when you finished NN and shortly before starting KoD, NN was awesome for few reasons, and not necessarily related to the characters it parodied. They were unique in the H game sense, and there was a lot of roleplay in it, for example the scene where you could betray your teammate when she was kept as insurance in the minotaur camp was one of the hottest things. The endgame minigames were 30/10 too and I just prefer rpgm to renpy.

Now for KoD, it started amazing, hot muscular highborn girl alone in orc camp, with this premise it's really hard to go wrong but.. As someone mentioned she has a bit too much freedom for being prisoner, it's quite irrational, but you could use the excuse that there is too much going on in the camp for them to care. Yoruichi is also there to assure her, if she made appearance later it would make more sense for Sabia to lean towards sub behaviour.
Next, there are no small event decisions for Sabia, you pick one of the big routes and she autopilots with her proud personality (sub only player here, oops guilty, playing hgames for the hentai) the bar event is the biggest offender here, no choices, no variance, not even foreshadowing and the build up is in completely different direction. No repeatable scenes as said many times before, this is really silly, you only need to draw it once and it will fill the game, think from players prespective as well.

Honestly I'd describe KoD atm as one big cock tease, the theme is so flexible and good, yet it's like the good stuff is being avoided on purpose. I would make Sabia's personality more flexible early with each choice until she falls into either extreme then you can start branching the scenes. Basically I go sub route but she's still in the highborn commander Sabia mindset, instead of being just girl who submitted to orcs out of fear.
Now the story, while decent it really never kicked off, neither did the dialogue, the characters are rather weak for the most part. When I was replaying the 3rd time after update I found myself ctrl-ing through the new content I haven't read yet, with no regrets.. I'll give it a shot again now that you have new writer in 2019. Also, stop skipping best. content :rage: I don't doubt kod will evolve and eventually smoothens out with enough work in the right direction, the theme is just strong. Gl to you and the others.

Sabia was never really a Prisoner. Something a quite a few you seem to forget. The Orcs only took her cause they didn't know what to do with her, then let her go, but she had no wheres to go too, cause she knows her sister wants her dead.

I mean it's literally all covered within the first 10 minutes of starting the game when Neve shows Sabia the way.

However I do agree for the most part regarding the scenes and lack of cause of the autopilot.
 

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i think im stuck, im trying to practice dancing but can't rest coz she keeps saying "i can't sleep, promised a feast..........etc etc" thanks to thins i can't recoup my stamina to practice dancing
 

saint751

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Seems like all us Rokrid bros are getting boned out of a lot of content this update. Hope you make it up to us. Anyway, here's a different kind of complaint: I want a new armor for Sabia. Seriously! We've been running around with that patched together mess for too long now. She's reached a respectable station in the tribe and her atire should reflect that.

I understand that you like her showing a little skin and who am I to disagree, but can you cook up something a little more refined, please? I don't know, make it Red Sonja style bikini chainmail or a scale armor corset.

Even if it takes some time away from the sex scenes, the standard game needs a little more visual variety. It's also kinda strange that the Whitecrest soldiers and the bandits look identical. I'd much prefer more NPC looks.

Other than that, I still very much like the game.
 

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Now for KoD, it started amazing, hot muscular highborn girl alone in orc camp, with this premise it's really hard to go wrong but.. As someone mentioned she has a bit too much freedom for being prisoner,
You do realize she isn't a prisoner right? Especially after the trial? She could've left of she wanted but she chose to state there since she basically had nowhere to go.
 

cuckofdecade

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You do realize she isn't a prisoner right? Especially after the trial? She could've left of she wanted but she chose to state there since she basically had nowhere to go.
It still makes no sense though? It's been year since I played through that part so I might be incorrect but she wasn't aware there were orcs left in the province, why would they let human commander run away with that info + their exact camp position? If they don't want to kill her because of her status then at least make her hostage, regardless of the fact that she's considered renegade. The risk is too great from their prespective.
I agree that after trial it feels normal.
 

The_fallen_dragon

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It still makes no sense though? It's been year since I played through that part so I might be incorrect but she wasn't aware there were orcs left in the province, why would they let human commander run away with that info + their exact camp position? If they don't want to kill her because of her status then at least make her hostage, regardless of the fact that she's considered renegade. The risk is too great from their prespective.
I agree that after trial it feels normal.
That would make sense if it wasn't the fact that it has bee show that she isn't the first or only human with some kind of authority or power that knows of that camp's position. I mean even ignoring the very fact that in this very update a group of guards goes to that very orc settlement to make sure that their city and that orc encampments won't have any issue especially now! With their head gone and the MC's sister coming to the city. This literally shows that not only do they already know the encampment is there but they have enough of a relationship with them that the city knows when there are major problems going on in the encampment.


The banker woman is someone of high status is someone who dealt with that encampment long before the mc did ad they obviously know she is of importance based on the fact the chief protected her directly and based on her own words, they wouldn't dare touch her.

So no, based on the very tribe's actions, it seems more illogical that they'd do anything that in their minds could cause the neighboring human kingdom to attack them.

The orc encampment doesn't actually know her status ad you can tell this just by how everyone treats her. And I'm not talking about her being a commander but the fact she has told no one that she is, in fact, highborn so there is literally no reason for them to see her as anything other than another human or even a skilled warrior. Hell even when she was rescued at the beginning of the game, she was the only person alive and we have no reason to believe the orcs would understand how human ranks even work. In fact, the fact they were just willing to give her stuff away leads me to believe more they had no clue seeing how she was wearing enchanted equipment by her own words.
 
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