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Azurite

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There is something I do not understand, they worked extra hard on this Vehlis captured side story/sex scene but it's an extended bad end? I mean if you are "good" at the game and save her as soon as possible you cannot enjoy all the work they did?

Oh and about the game, it seems that when Nomo was with Sierra, it was clearly their main activity. But since then, it seems Nomo is only working on this game as a side project. It could explain why it takes so long between updates now.
 

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I miss when this game wasn't full of rape and fetish heavy bad ends
Lol, what? It used to be worse. In fact, they pulled some early rape-heavy scenes in it because it didn't fit into the game all that well, and not to mention to duck Patreon's ban-hammer when such a scene was the very first scene in the game that most players encountered. It's only much later in the development cycle that more consensual / non-pressured scenes finally got implemented into the game. Y'know, just saying... ^^"
 

hakarlman

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Does the bar groping scene still end in anti-climactic fashion, where the orcs die and Sabia doesn't get fucked, even after she got all hot and bothered from being felt up?
 

MrCoomer

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Lol, what? It used to be worse. In fact, they pulled some early rape-heavy scenes in it because it didn't fit into the game all that well, and not to mention to duck Patreon's ban-hammer when such a scene was the very first scene in the game that most players encountered. It's only much later in the development cycle that more consensual / non-pressured scenes finally got implemented into the game. Y'know, just saying... ^^"
That's what I mean. There was a brief period when the game had no rape/bad ends at all. The devs said something like "we want Sabia to always be in control of her sexuality". That's when the game was at its peak. Then they listened to their backers and things took a major nose dive. I legitimately angry about it because it used to be my favorite porn game.
 
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CourierNPC

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That's what I mean. There was a brief period when the game had no rape/bad ends at all. The devs said something like "we want Sabia to always be in control of her sexuality". That's when the game was at its peak. Then they listened to their backers and things took a major nose dive. I legitimately angry about it because it used to be my favorite porn game.
When the money's rollin', who bother listenin'?
 

Pillepalle

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How do you unlock the full gallery in this game these days? The JDMOD seems kinda dead.

Edit: NVM the unlock feature still works.
 
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GigelFrone1234

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Why don't Patreon backers just cut support if everyone seems to be so mad about this? I'm sure that you'll see the true face of what they want to do (finish the game or just milk it) when the finances go down the drain
 

Xill

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Lol, what? It used to be worse. In fact, they pulled some early rape-heavy scenes in it because it didn't fit into the game all that well, and not to mention to duck Patreon's ban-hammer when such a scene was the very first scene in the game that most players encountered. It's only much later in the development cycle that more consensual / non-pressured scenes finally got implemented into the game. Y'know, just saying... ^^"
Which is weird because it fit the theme of the game just fine. You got a bunch of orcs, and Sabia acting as a "slave" in their camp, and they go on about having rape doesn't fit the game. Sounds to me like they just didn't know what they wanted the game to be out.

It makes sense for the dom route, but they also had a sub route. If you're going to have a sub route and put the protagonist in a camp full of rapists (yeah I know they aint all rapists) you can't exactly have the her be "in control of he sexuality".
 

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Which is weird because it fit the theme of the game just fine. You got a bunch of orcs, and Sabia acting as a "slave" in their camp, and they go on about having rape doesn't fit the game. Sounds to me like they just didn't know what they wanted the game to be out.

It makes sense for the dom route, but they also had a sub route. If you're going to have a sub route and put the protagonist in a camp full of rapists (yeah I know they aint all rapists) you can't exactly have the her be "in control of he sexuality".
I think the argument was less that rape wouldn't have a place in the story and more "Let's not start the game with the haughty protagonist getting violently raped and then waking up next morning with virtually no trauma, cracking jokes with the mysterious elf girl, and already planning how to turn the orc's political landscape to her advantage".

But to be fair, no small part of the reason must have been fear of a patreon ban, because they went way too far. I do think having rape right at the game's intro wouldn't work very well for Sabia's character and the story, but the threat of rape would have been fitting to wisen up Sabia and the player to be careful with their decisions. Ideally, I think they should have used the old "good outcome" as the new "bad outcome" (in the original releases even if the player stalled properly, Sabia would still be surrounded, stripped and tackled to the ground, but she would be saved just a moment before getting penetrated), that way the intro's decisions wouldn't be so inconsequential (stall successfully and Sabia gets to keep her clothes on, fail to stall and she gets stripped and needs to be saved just a moment before bad stuff happen).
 
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