hakarlman

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This was released by Hreinn Games as part of their update, but I touched it up and fixed the jagged edges.

It took 1 minute and 50 seconds to fix the problem areas on Sabia. Made her slightly less fat because she's supposed to be fit, given her warrior status. Waist is slightly more realistic, yet still slim.

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This was released by Hreinn Games as part of their update, but I touched it up and fixed the jagged edges.

It took 1 minute and 50 seconds to fix the problem areas on Sabia. Made her slightly less fat because she's supposed to be fit, given her warrior status. Waist is slightly more realistic, yet still slim.

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Orc cum is very nutritious you know :D Great work anyway!
 
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This was released by Hreinn Games as part of their update, but I touched it up and fixed the jagged edges.

It took 1 minute and 50 seconds to fix the problem areas on Sabia. Made her slightly less fat because she's supposed to be fit, given her warrior status. Waist is slightly more realistic, yet still slim.

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Way more fapable than original. At least one shows a good taste in shape and proportions, unlike the original artist...

(But you polls really concern me tho.:LUL:)
 

psycohunter96

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This was released by Hreinn Games as part of their update, but I touched it up and fixed the jagged edges.

It took 1 minute and 50 seconds to fix the problem areas on Sabia. Made her slightly less fat because she's supposed to be fit, given her warrior status. Waist is slightly more realistic, yet still slim.

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when you say 1 minute and 50 seconds i bet you meant 1 month and 3 delays right? Also pretty nice work sabia looks way better like this!!
 

Py Ape

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Thanks for the reply
The 0.13 update? Well I am not one of their patrons but based on my experience with this game so far, I wouldn't expect it to be released for at least next 2-3 months. I am personally not expecting them to deliver an update before May-June but I would love to be proven wrong.
 
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yeah from what i gather they shelved the slavery portion of the game which is sad coz i remember during the start of development of this there was a clear path towards a slave route for sabia and one of the reasons i supported them back then was that they promised that they would do something similar to the bad end of Noxian Nights wherein MC gets enslaved and it was promised to be one of the routes you can pick
Wait does that mean the full nelson pics are not in the game even if you go sub mode?
 

Jinsoyun

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Wait does that mean the full nelson pics are not in the game even if you go sub mode?
No. Those pics are for the first major scene with the minotaur, and they are available on both dom and sub route.

Since even the pics for the prologue scene have been re-added into the game at a later point in the story, there are currently no graphic content that were simply removed and can't be seen in a normal playthrough.

The slavery stat is different from the sub/dom one and it has been sidelined in the sense that the frist 3-4 patches had choices that added slavery/freedom points but so far there is a total of one scene for these and no real indication that the devs wanted to add more.
 

SteamedBean

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This was released by Hreinn Games as part of their update, but I touched it up and fixed the jagged edges.

It took 1 minute and 50 seconds to fix the problem areas on Sabia. Made her slightly less fat because she's supposed to be fit, given her warrior status. Waist is slightly more realistic, yet still slim.

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Dang Sabia looks Smug af, "keeps looking at thread" why...
Now if you guys actually wanted to stop whining i think you should tell the developers to cut the branches and beeline for the ending or something idk, seems to me that the game suffers of a bad case of feature creep, and it would really help a lot if they got the story from start to finish before they started branching into different routes, actually that would have saved a crapton of time. Just my two cents
 

Tabberius

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So... I tried, trully.

I eventually gave up on this game a year ago, when they decided to add So much interesting content. IT all Went to hell when Sierra left, each update worse then the one before until i had enough of disappointment.

But i saw a new update And decided to give IT another try but once the content with human villages, Kira, bandits and others started to appear, i closed the game out of boredom Once again... :(

So I wanted to ask if the game got better Once again, by any chance, with the new updates in the past year and if it Is worth playing again, or not. The First part of the game is piece of art, thats the only reason Im willing to try Once more...
 

Yukariin

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So... I tried, trully.

I eventually gave up on this game a year ago, when they decided to add So much interesting content. IT all Went to hell when Sierra left, each update worse then the one before until i had enough of disappointment.

But i saw a new update And decided to give IT another try but once the content with human villages, Kira, bandits and others started to appear, i closed the game out of boredom Once again... :(

So I wanted to ask if the game got better Once again, by any chance, with the new updates in the past year and if it Is worth playing again, or not. The First part of the game is piece of art, thats the only reason Im willing to try Once more...
don't bother.
or, if you don't really care about the story, use the mod to check every scene.
 
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Why does everyone keep bringing up Sierra ? as far as i remember the game was still good even after Sierra left, in fact i liked it more after sierra left, don't know what else happened throughout the years but i'm pretty sure the devs being milking faggot have nothing to do with her, all devs reach that state eventually
 

Enigmanic

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Why does everyone keep bringing up Sierra ? as far as i remember the game was still good even after Sierra left, in fact i liked it more after sierra left, don't know what else happened throughout the years but i'm pretty sure the devs being milking faggot have nothing to do with her, all devs reach that state eventually
After Sierra left the content was hit or miss. Some scenarios were great, others were meh. But the writing quality definitely slumped. In particular, the dialog has been very superficial and the main story has barely advanced. Plus there are various features and side stories that started off really good and then got permanently sidelined.
 

BleepRose

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Why does everyone keep bringing up Sierra ? as far as i remember the game was still good even after Sierra left, in fact i liked it more after sierra left, don't know what else happened throughout the years but i'm pretty sure the devs being milking faggot have nothing to do with her, all devs reach that state eventually
Sierra has also released a ton of content in the time since while this project just got slower and slower.
 

Jinsoyun

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I think Sierra is one of the best writers who's work can be found on this site and the changes in the writing since her departure can be pointed out rather quickly. I don't want to throw smack at the current writer either, i think he is quite good too, just not one of the best and that can be felt.

But this game was always going to have development issues due to decisions made with Sierra's contribution and a lot of her fans tend to ignore that.

For one, KoD went big. Literally in the case of the art. NN's pictures were 550x420, but for KoD he went all out and drew everything in 2000x1500 at least with full backgrounds. I don't draw myself, but that seems to be a lot of extra work.

Speaking of which, right from the very first release, the story has 4 main routes and so a lot of the story content that's developed would have to be done 4 times. Major patches like the Arena, the Raids, or the warchief's disappearance have significant differences.
Add to this a lot of the other choices on the routes like the sub/dom, the initial freedom/slavery and a few others and it's safe to say that the amount of work necessary to develop an hour of content for KoD is significantly more than it was for NN. 9 months long? Probably not, but even in the best case scenario the devs set themselves up to a lot of work and still slower content.

And finally the switch to Renpy. This was most likely a necessary decision due to the heavy emphasis on politics and branching routes in the game, but the fact still remains that Nomo and Sierra decided to switch to a system neither of them knew and which does require programming and again as far as i've heard neither of them does that either.

I don't want to sound mean, i'm sorry if i do and i'm honestly not blaming anyone either. Sierra is a great writer and a good dev, but she can't do miracles. Some delays in the process were inevitable for example when Nomo had to draw new assets for groping, for humans or minotaurs, and Sierra's presence wouldn't have changed that. She simply left before the inevitable happened.
 

hakarlman

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Omg, the bar groping stills ends with an anti-climax? She should be able to let the bar gropers fuck her, then convince them to work for Tekrok afterwards.

Fuck, I may be able to mod this scene to fix it, in a VERY convincing way that seems natural to the story. Then the bar groping could be turned into a repeatable scene.

This bar groping anti-climax is the main reason I don't sub to their patreon. It's a huge fuck up. No one gives a shit about a non-sexual murder investigation in a porn game.
 
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Jinsoyun

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So, once again, i wanted to collect my thoughts on the fun possibilities of the re-usable arts, But because i keep forgetting my ideas i decided to write them down and if you guys don't mind, this is as good a place as any.

I'll start with a few i've mentioned before.

The first and most obvious one would be to "grind" for faction bonuses, information or other stats. For example a quest would say that Sabia needs to gather information in the human towns, but she only gathers smaller pieces during each round, so she has to keep going back. Or she would need to be the "employee of the month" in the brothel to get sent to someone important and this could be one of the methods of infiltration.

Similarly, re-used art could be fun as repeated payments for Tekrok's or Ornshakar's help. This has been done before and new major scenes should still get new art, but Sabia could negotiate a system with Tekrok where every time she gets help from his men, Sabia will also have some repeated visits at night for a few days afterwards.

And finally on my list on repeated ideas for repeated scenes.. Sabia on the sub route should turn the power play with Bris into a contest of sexual prowess. A "fuck off" if you don't mind the pun. Basically after another scene where Bris orders the guards to humiliate Sabia again, Sabia could get up, tired and messy and say something along the lines of "OK, let's be real. We will do this again one way or another, but if you guys rejoin my team, then you can have Bris as a bonus too". After this it's up to the imagination, but i can think of a few directions for when two experienced women try to convince two increasingly smug orcs to help them instead of the other. Just saying.

Another fun idea would be to use repeatable scenes to fix the problems of the combat system. This is a porn game after all. Does anyone still remember the early game where Sabia could pay a bit of money to buy training? Yeah, how are these two not combined already? The scenes don't have to be long or complicated, but different art could be used for strength (Sabia top), stamina (Sabia bottom) and endurance/HP (threesome, foursome) training.
This would finally give the devs the ability to create interesting or tougher combat since losing would just mean that Sabia needs to train a bit more...

Last, but definitely not least, Sabia could now have casual sex friends in the camp. From random lucky orcs through minor npcs like the named goons of the captains or shamans to important characters. The later ones would obviously need their own major scenes eventually, but poor Lutvrog didn't get any action in 6 patches and a system like this could make the camp a bit more lively in a fashion we know from NN.
Neve even has her full sex friend arc ready in the bonus scenes, just tweak them a bit and make it official.

Any thoughts on this? How would you guy use the repeated arts if it was up to you?
 

Alicja Erberg

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So, once again, i wanted to collect my thoughts on the fun possibilities of the re-usable arts, But because i keep forgetting my ideas i decided to write them down and if you guys don't mind, this is as good a place as any.

I'll start with a few i've mentioned before.

The first and most obvious one would be to "grind" for faction bonuses, information or other stats. For example a quest would say that Sabia needs to gather information in the human towns, but she only gathers smaller pieces during each round, so she has to keep going back. Or she would need to be the "employee of the month" in the brothel to get sent to someone important and this could be one of the methods of infiltration.

Similarly, re-used art could be fun as repeated payments for Tekrok's or Ornshakar's help. This has been done before and new major scenes should still get new art, but Sabia could negotiate a system with Tekrok where every time she gets help from his men, Sabia will also have some repeated visits at night for a few days afterwards.

And finally on my list on repeated ideas for repeated scenes.. Sabia on the sub route should turn the power play with Bris into a contest of sexual prowess. A "fuck off" if you don't mind the pun. Basically after another scene where Bris orders the guards to humiliate Sabia again, Sabia could get up, tired and messy and say something along the lines of "OK, let's be real. We will do this again one way or another, but if you guys rejoin my team, then you can have Bris as a bonus too". After this it's up to the imagination, but i can think of a few directions for when two experienced women try to convince two increasingly smug orcs to help them instead of the other. Just saying.

Another fun idea would be to use repeatable scenes to fix the problems of the combat system. This is a porn game after all. Does anyone still remember the early game where Sabia could pay a bit of money to buy training? Yeah, how are these two not combined already? The scenes don't have to be long or complicated, but different art could be used for strength (Sabia top), stamina (Sabia bottom) and endurance/HP (threesome, foursome) training.
This would finally give the devs the ability to create interesting or tougher combat since losing would just mean that Sabia needs to train a bit more...

Last, but definitely not least, Sabia could now have casual sex friends in the camp. From random lucky orcs through minor npcs like the named goons of the captains or shamans to important characters. The later ones would obviously need their own major scenes eventually, but poor Lutvrog didn't get any action in 6 patches and a system like this could make the camp a bit more lively in a fashion we know from NN.
Neve even has her full sex friend arc ready in the bonus scenes, just tweak them a bit and make it official.

Any thoughts on this? How would you guy use the repeated arts if it was up to you?
Repeateable scenes without a sense of progression or any kind of conflict are just that - get boring quickly. One of your ideas is ok as a quest partial solution - to get information, win favors etc. If you want the sexual grinding to be somehow meaningful, you'd have to introduce sexual and mental stats / sexual experience, e.g.

1) Sabia has to overhear meaningful information that would help her solve some quest, the only way to get that is to be either good enough at sneaking or fucking. The discussion takes a place in a larger tent in camp. She can enter it and provide her sexual services as an entartainment for the participants. The thing is, if she is not sexually skilled enough, she loses her concsiousness due to running out of stamina or taking too much sexual abuse (e.g. passing out while getting choked or deepthroating or simply in too much pain) before being able to overhear important information (the orcs do fucking first and discussing things later)

2) Sabia needs a lot of money to convince one of the orcs to do her bidding. However, in order to get such an amount she needs to step up her sexual game in relief tents. She can ask for extra nasty or brutal treatment to get orcs more excited and pay for the extra sexual services. However, each extra sexual service provides dimnishing results as the novelty wears off so in order to get required sum of money she needs to be more and more creative (or should we say sexually depraved). She could offer herself to gangbangs, wear vagina chastity belt so that orcs abuse her ass only, do double anal or double vaginal, provide ass to mouth, allow to be fisted etc. Basically each new scenario should be more and more demanding both stamina and mentaly wise - so it wouldn't be possible to do them in easy progression - Sabia should've been more prepared (more elastic orifices due to constant overstretching) and depraved before attempting something new.

Examples could go on, basically if you want the repeatable scenes to be fun, you need to provide an interesting context (why is she allowing to get fucked/abused and how she feels about it). That way, even if visual representation is mostly the same, what matters is what are Sabia thoughts when she e.g. sucks a dirty orc schlong that has just been in her ass or how game mechanics reflects on that. Is it too much for her and she passes out or starts vomiting thus cancelling the positive effects of her ordeal or her corruption is so great already that she bears with it? If her ass is sore because she had an anal only gangbang the night before, will she be able to endure the pain for the next night of constant assfucking or quit in tears?
 
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