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- Sep 8, 2017
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Finally, a sensible post.
People began to create their own vision of the game besides the official one. Keep it up tho, looks impressive
Well, yeah, but that has been going on since day one. A lot of people have written down their ideas and wishes here and i like a lot of those more than my own stuff.
Noxian Nights had a ton of repeated art in it and i liked that game just like most of us here, so ever since i joined the conversation here i said that this game could also benefit from re-using some art as well as long as it is done to compliment the new pictures and not replace them. Now that we have the assets i wanted to see what uses i could come up for them and Alicja made some good observations on the point.
I'm no different than anyone who just asks for more Neve or more orcs, i'm just prone to rambling.
hakarlman
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- Jul 30, 2017
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God bless you man. Fuck this quest. What the fuck was the developer thinking.
EDIT: my god, bris taking over the tents makes absolutely no sense. terrible writing. none of this makes any sense. It's a complete turn off. The better angle would be for sabia to just work at the fucking tents to reward the orcs after winning battles against her mage sister; that would fit along side the severely neglected main story.
Either Vehlis should take over the tents, NEVE, or whoever Sabia sided with. If Sabia sided with Tekrok, Tekrok takes over the tents and appoints one of his minions or something. Then they use the money to fund the war effort against Sabia's sister.
Fuck, this writing went to total and utter shit.
Bris taking over the tents makes no fucking sense. She's had almost no character development. It should be either Vehlis, Neve, or whichever Orc Sabia sided with.
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Bris trying to grab power makes sense, but Sabia's reaction to it on the sub route is baffling to me. Sabia is currently trying to take down one of the strongest person on the continent who rules one of the strongest houses in the strongest empire and when a random catgirl convinces two orcs to side with her against Sabia, she just stands there and thinks: "whelp, there is nothing i can do about this now."
It wouldn't even need too much extra to make a lot more sense. Just add a quick line saying something like "i know what to do but i need to buy a bit of time", or "let's see what Bris tries to do with this opportunity" or considering that this is the sub route even something along the lines of "this must stop soon, but for now i'll have a bit of fun".
Just 3-4 more sentences and Sabia either stays an active protagonist or she is just giving herself a bit of time to enjoy her kink instead of sitting there helplessly as she does now.
Brother Penetrātus
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Want to quote them again: "...in the next faster update."
Meanwhile, we are heading straight to 3 months without one of these "faster updates".
(I don't even want to start to discuss the dull writing that was mentioned above. At this point, all my hope goes for fappable art and decent mods.)
Meanwhile, we are heading straight to 3 months without one of these "faster updates".
(I don't even want to start to discuss the dull writing that was mentioned above. At this point, all my hope goes for fappable art and decent mods.)
hakarlman
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I think Bris's power grab CAN make sense, but she lacks the character development for it. She needs to be introduced earlier in the game, and placed in a position of power that rivals Neve. She needs to feel just as powerful as Neve, Vehlis, or even the lead Orcs. But then it begs the question, why make a new character? Why not just use Neve or Vehlis? They already have Vehlis funding the tents, so that was the right direction.
I strongly agree, you nailed it here.
It sounds like you're a huge fan of Bris? Be honest, do you like Neve, Vehlis or Bris? If you think Bris running the tents makes a lot of sense, maybe I should give her another chance. But, I just don't see it. Kira would make a better madame than Bris.
It sounds like you like Bris. I just don't see her as a dominate catgirl. The catgirl's are portrayed as highly submissive, and they get conquered.
The name catgirl just screams an aura of submissiveness, not power IMO.
A woman like Kira would make sense for running the tents. Kira, Neve, Vehlis, not Bris. I just don't see it. Even the Averton mayor would make a better Madame. Averton gets conquered and you turn the mayor girl into the tent madame.
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You misunderstood me. Bris actually taking over the tents for a prolonged time makes no sense. The captains or even the shaman would stop it anyway. What i can agree with is Bris TRYING to take over the tents. She was the leader of their caravan after all and her trying to take back control or even escaping with her team after months of being used is logical.
This is one of the scenarios where i much prefer the dom route. There Sabia shuts down Bris' attempt very quickly but she still joins in some of the scenes because she gets horny and wants to have fun. My suggestions to add a few lines follow a similar idea. I don't think that the devs will rewrite half of the last patch in order to get things to make more sense so we are stuck with this scenario.
But if we already are here, then just saying that Sabia knows how she could stop Bris, but she DECIDES not to do so for now either because she is curious or just because she enjoys an excuse for sub sex, could make more sense and open up options for sex scenes as well.
I'm not saying that Bris should run the tents, in fact i've stated the exact opposite in most of my posts since the update. I think Sabia should find a way to take back the tents as soon as possible and even in the current version she shouldn't have lost it like this.
By the way, i don't think Neve would bother running the tents since it could be time consuming and Vehlis would probably do it through a proxy just like she does through Sabia, so that was well written at least.
p.s.: aside from Sabia, Neve is the best girl.
I hope this clears things up a bit.
Shakira
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- Nov 16, 2017
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All this talk of Sabia/Bris tent plot meanwhile I just want to see some Sabia x Bris lesdom scenes lol. Some repeatable lesbian scenes would be amazing as well.
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honestly i don't really care about any of the other female characters, all i want to see is sabia and the orcs.
saint751
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The devs have gotten the wrong idea, in that they seem to think that every single scenario needs a SUB and a DOM alternative. I really disagree with that decision. The point of this allignment system wasn't to change the flavour text in some areas, but to present some alternate scenarios that are tailored to a submissive or a dominant Sabia. The whole matter with Bris is clearly a DOM event with a sloppy, barely credible SUB rewrite, that all but breaks the suspension of disbelief for the player.
There are scenarios that can be approached from a DOM or a SUB pov and probably have to, in order for the story not to balloon out of control. This wasn't one of them.
I dislike stories where the main character is this completely passiv moron, being thrown about by the whims of fate. And that's what SUB Sabia has turned into. I already sperged about how the sub route could still involve Sabia getting her way, by manipulating the people that think they got her under their thumb. But that necessitates smarter writing and scenes that actually cater to the idea of DECEPTION in a game called "Kingdom of Deception".
Hreinn clearly want to make their updates look a little bigger by putting a variant of every scene in every route. But speaking as someone who can maintain two save files: I'd rather have fewer scenes with more care and thought put into them. If this trend continues I don't even see a point in keeping up with the SUB route.
IMO one of the biggest problems with the sub route is that Sabia just doesn't seem to enjoy sex very much, every single scene she needs to be forced into. Sub doesn't mean they're always unwilling, and it makes a lot of the dom scenes much more interesting to play. If anything sub Sabia should be more willing to proactively use sex as one of her tools, since it's one of her main ways of not ending up in open conflict with people and one of the areas where her character could still have some agency.
This would be an amazing scene. I also think your ideas about her having regular sex friends around the camp + repeatable scenes with the captains would be really good. There's already enough side characters for this. You could also have small elements of the dialog/behavior change after major quests so we get a feel for how her character is changing too.
hakarlman
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Whose the dom? Sabia or Bris? If Bris is the dom, what part of the writing makes her dominant for you? Just curious.
If Sabia is dominant, and bris the sub, that makes sense and fits with the story, no matter if Sabia is dom or sub in game, because she's established herself in a position of power over Bris no matter what.
I think the Bris dom route is a credible storyline, I just don't think it's a particularly fun one. Bris was caravan leader and in blackmailing Sabia, Bris gets to enjoy the power and influence Sabia has. Sabia goes along with it because she sees her situation as hopeless or too precarious to risk being exposed so goes along with it until she can come up with an escape strategy, that's what generally happens in blackmail situations and in this respect the story is credible. However everything just happens to Sabia, rather than her influencing it. In this respect I wonder if those of us who dislike the sub route have conflated submission with manipulation.
I would much prefer the sub route was one where Sabia harnesses powe through the manipulation of others. She is controlled and at times required to do things she otherwise wouldn't or wouldn't want to but in her mind it is worth it to get access to the power of the person who is 'dominating' her. That sounds to me like a very fun and enjoyable storyline, the problem is that it is more likely to take Sabia in a completely different direction from her Dom route, meaning artwork and even the characters she interacts with most often are completely different.
Going back to my point about confusing submission with manipulation. If the sub route is simply a long bad end and a route to ultimate failure then it has been 'successful', but for me it's not a huge amount of fun and in that respect the effort the devs have put into it has been wasted on me. If there were to be a middle route where Sabia takes on a manipulator and seemingly submissive role but actually is working those who seek to exploit her from the back with the end game her progression within the camp and a return to some sort of status then that would work. Yes, I want to see her getting fucked and controlled by Orcs, Humans and Minotaurs but there has to be progression and the prospect of an endgame for this to be fun for me.
I would much prefer the sub route was one where Sabia harnesses powe through the manipulation of others. She is controlled and at times required to do things she otherwise wouldn't or wouldn't want to but in her mind it is worth it to get access to the power of the person who is 'dominating' her. That sounds to me like a very fun and enjoyable storyline, the problem is that it is more likely to take Sabia in a completely different direction from her Dom route, meaning artwork and even the characters she interacts with most often are completely different.
Going back to my point about confusing submission with manipulation. If the sub route is simply a long bad end and a route to ultimate failure then it has been 'successful', but for me it's not a huge amount of fun and in that respect the effort the devs have put into it has been wasted on me. If there were to be a middle route where Sabia takes on a manipulator and seemingly submissive role but actually is working those who seek to exploit her from the back with the end game her progression within the camp and a return to some sort of status then that would work. Yes, I want to see her getting fucked and controlled by Orcs, Humans and Minotaurs but there has to be progression and the prospect of an endgame for this to be fun for me.
can someone help me to get to bris content TwT i tried everything but past the minotaur (avion) quest i can't do anything. i tried to look at the walkthough and i think i'm at the tentacle monster quest were you need fresh venaison but i can't buy it.. i finished velis quest with merchant, meet amelia and did the first part of ornshakar quest...