People that complain about the sub route not being a manipulative way to dom the characters - you understand that the Dom route is exactly that right? I haven't gotten into it, because I don't like it, but from the scenes I saw it's more like 'I am going to use sex as a reward for my servants to keep them loyal' or 'I am going to use sex to extract info' and the very same thing you guys want in the sub route. I for one, like the sub route. It's nice and gets the horny done. Someone inherently dominating that controls people usually ends up as a dom or a switch. Just like the Dom route. Don't like it? Don't play it, all I am going to say to that end. Just like how I am not really playing the dom route just looking at the scenes to get an idea what it is about.
To that end - the Bris scenes are done good. Nomo is a beginner writer that as far as I know, only writes for KoD. That's ok. In fact, for how little experience he has, it is alright to do it in a way he sees fitting. Dom Sabia - uses Briss as the whore to keep the tents in control. Sub Sabia - The roles switch on the opposite end and she becomes Briss' bitch. It's simple, and it gives us what we want to see. Honestly at this point I feel like this forum has become a bit entitled towards finding nitpicks on the game. They literally doubled the scenes in the game with the last update and people are still not freaking happy lol
I think you are right and i mostly agree with you.
Just to clarify i only speak for myself here as always and so far i only wanted two scenarios to be altered a little bit: the shaman's case and the tents with Bris one. I don't ask these to be rewritten or anything. For one i like the scenarios and it would also be very douche for me to demand anything considering the circumstances.
My problem with these two scenarios in particular is that the sub path is completely passive. She does not have a plan nor does she even stop to contemplate her options. She could just have one short monologue going through what the captains, Vehlis, Neve or anyone else would do if she asked for help and decided that she had to put up with the current situation for a while and all my points would fly out the window.
I don't think the sub route should be all about manipulation and i don't suggest anything new either to be honest. For example Noxian Nights had 3 submissive women as protagonists and they pursued their goals, discussed their situations and even took the initiative in both sex and action from time to time.
Sabia has been and in most scenarios still is very similar. She initiated sex with Tekrok during the raids, she initiates basically every scene involving Lutvrog on both dom and sum route, she made additional preparations for the Arena event, she pursued clues both when the warchief went missing and when Grak was killed and a lot of these scenarios involved some of the hottest scenes in the game so far.
The sub route is not bad, i play it first on every patch because i like it more. But right now Sabia is at a very low point there as she basically lost everything so far and only Nomo knows how she will get out of this. Again, this is not inherently a bad thing, Sabia being on the bottom of the food chain can be a fun thing in the sub route.
As an example for what i'm missing look at the Raid patch. The patch before the Raids ended with Sabia sitting down in the middle of the camp to think about how to proceed when a group of orcs walked up to her and said that she seemed to have a plan and they want to be in on it. Sabia smiled since she had a bit of extra muscle on her side for the first time. Similarly the Raid story ended on both Rokgrid and Tekrok's side on both dom and sub route by Sabia noting that yeah, this thing with the captains could work.
Just a few lines like this at the end of the patch is all i'm suggesting, just what this game used to have. Sabia would still be a sub, she would still be the bitch of everyone, i could still look forward to enemies and even friends filling up that dog bowl for her, but it would show that she still has her goals on her mind and she is prepared to continue her adventure.
