VN Ren'Py Kingdom of Deception [v0.14.2.2] [Hreinn Games]

[QwertyBam]

To sum up, Nomo is a great artist with a once-decent vision but he has allowed toxic fans, inept teammates and lack of proper communication to turn this game into a dumpster fire.

I wouldn't know how to ask this politely, so I'll just go straight to it: didn't Nomo and Sierra split because Sierra wanted to make a complex game, while Nomo just wanted a straight forward rape-on-defeat narration?

I'm not trying to be mean to Nomo, but I was a patron for a while, before the quality plunged, and I genuinely never even imaged Nomo could have enough ambitions of their own to risk any kind of "feature creep". I thought they were just lazy and incompetent.

 

[Enigmanic]

I wouldn't know how to ask this politely, so I'll just go straight to it: didn't Nomo and Sierra split because Sierra wanted to make a complex game, while Nomo just wanted a straight forward rape-on-defeat narration?

I'm not trying to be mean to Nomo, but I was a patron for a while, before the quality plunged, and I genuinely never even imaged Nomo could have enough ambitions of their own to risk any kind of "feature creep". I was they were just lazy and incompetent.

I think that sounds accurate. There were creative differences. Sierra had big ideas for the game but Nomo and NDS disagreed.
Afterwards, they took on a hack writer and NDS spent way too much time procrastinating. Too many of Hreinn's remaining fans only seem to care about lewds, regardless of how repetitive the sex scenes get, so the story has gone down the drain.

 

[justletmeinplees]

I wouldn't know how to ask this politely, so I'll just go straight to it: didn't Nomo and Sierra split because Sierra wanted to make a complex game, while Nomo just wanted a straight forward rape-on-defeat narration?

I'm not trying to be mean to Nomo, but I was a patron for a while, before the quality plunged, and I genuinely never even imaged Nomo could have enough ambitions of their own to risk any kind of "feature creep". I was they were just lazy and incompetent.

How about reading the last 400 pages of discussion and let us have JUST ONE PAGE that doesn't involve whiny bullshit about sierra leaving, which was so long ago as to be irrelevant at this point.

 

[QwertyBam]

I think that sounds accurate. There were creative differences. Sierra had big ideas for the game but Nomo and NDS disagreed.
Afterwards, they took on a hack writer and NDS spent way too much time procrastinating. Too many of Hreinn's remaining fans only seem to care about lewds, regardless of how repetitive the sex scenes get, so the story has gone down the drain.

Sad, really.

How about reading the last 400 pages of discussion and let us have JUST ONE PAGE that doesn't involve whiny bullshit about sierra leaving, which was so long ago as to be irrelevant at this point.

No.

 

[Enigmanic]

How about reading the last 400 pages of discussion and let us have JUST ONE PAGE that doesn't involve whiny bullshit about sierra leaving, which was so long ago as to be irrelevant at this point.

You have to consider that Hrienn's supporters wait up to a year at a time for an update with very little communication from the Devs in their Patreon. In their Discord people talk about random bullshit or go on and on about mobile games they play together. The Dev has a habit of squashing actual group discussion about KoD.

 

[joajon]

will there be a public release yet?

 

[Jinsoyun]

I am the writer, thanks for the mention (didn't actually think my work would end up here).
The idea for the orgasm came from the actual game, as Neve states several times that Orcs are so girthy they stimulate a girl just fine if they're into rough pounding. Sabia refuses to comment, showing she's indeed into it, and several of the sex scenes where she gets fucked make her come from the stimulation after a while.

I liked your writing. Some of the details were a bit strange, for example i can't imagine an orc saying " doinkies-boinkies " without laughing, but the scenario fits the game. In my opinion, the length of the story was nice too: enough to contain hot details but didn't feel bloated or too short either. And i'm with you on this discussion too: Sabia has been shown to enjoy most of her scenes even if given the choice she would be more picky with her partners and boundaries.

Good job!

It's also good to see Nomo commissioning a short story like this. It shows that he likes the project.

 

[Jinsoyun]

will there be a public release yet?

The last patreon posts were about the art and variant packs. Those are patreon only, so we are waiting for a hero to share them here.
Aside from that there doesn't seem to be any information about the next patch.

 

[Brother Penetrātus]

How about reading the last 400 pages of discussion and let us have JUST ONE PAGE that doesn't involve whiny bullshit about sierra leaving, which was so long ago as to be irrelevant at this point.

I will never understand why there are people whining and posting about people who whine and post. I mean, it's like people who rant about bad drivers while driving with a coffee in the hand with too much speed on the bus lane.

 

[JustForPorn12]

Only people with less braincells are those that go around asking "when update" on every game, thankfully there's a block feature.

 

[asgir546]

I liked your writing. Some of the details were a bit strange, for example i can't imagine an orc saying " doinkies-boinkies " without laughing, but the scenario fits the game. In my opinion, the length of the story was nice too: enough to contain hot details but didn't feel bloated or too short either. And i'm with you on this discussion too: Sabia has been shown to enjoy most of her scenes even if given the choice she would be more picky with her partners and boundaries.

Good job!

It's also good to see Nomo commissioning a short story like this. It shows that he likes the project.

Thanks for the feedback, I guess I was too entranced by Telepurpe's "Oh these" when writing ^^

 

[CourierNPC]

You have to consider that Hrienn's supporters wait up to a year at a time for an update with very little communication from the Devs in their Patreon. In their Discord people talk about random bullshit or go on and on about mobile games they play together. The Dev has a habit of squashing actual group discussion about KoD.

That's... that's alarming, to be honest. Imagine suppressing people who cared about your craft in favor of groups of people that played some random game together.

 

[CourierNPC]

Really wish this link ain't encrypted or that I missed a few letters and numbers...

You must be registered to see the links

 

[Jinsoyun]

Really wish this link ain't encrypted or that I missed a few letters and numbers...

Clicky

It does seem to be encrypted, unless i missed something.

 

[Loktar27]

password?

 

[drebin]

The link is incomplete, the decryption key #iqbQc4tKbXSxlQ9s4l is missing 2 characters

 

[CourierNPC]

The link is incomplete, the decryption key #iqbQc4tKbXSxlQ9s4l is missing 2 characters

Shoot, so close! Somebody, I guess, put the whole link in the open on the Patreon and I just tried retyping it.

 

[Loktar27]

Fuck
We need another hero, then.
Thanks also, Courier

 

[CourierNPC]

Fuck
We need another hero, then.
Thanks also, Courier

It's not much. I was just curious seeing Hreinn posted a raw link to the archive.

 

[iplayfortheplot]

I'm just going to end this discussion once and for all that I don't care about Sierra Lee and I'm happy that she left and I'm not offering any further elaboration