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Ion.TemUS

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Sure bud but we know in this case what happened here. Nomo was a solid artist and probably had some great concept ideas. But as far as vision, scope, management, and business acumen turns out not so much. The rest of this is just excuses for people that take on projects lightly and AFTER taking money from people admit or (secretly admit and refuse to do so publicly) that they can't do it. You "ideas" of how to build an h-game project fall flat considering there ARE many creators who DO successfully finish projects in a timely manner with a strong public face.

Unless of course YOU have some projects to your name?
I don't want to say that you're wrong, but remember the Noxian nights, remember the beginning of the kingdom of deception, they were very similar in both plots, a woman wants revenge in both gets to a new place, and so on. the problem is not in the fans, but in the developers
Hold your horses friends, you clearly misunderstood me. In no way have I said it's the fault of the fans. I said the problem was that the vision was lost and the game overstayed its welcome. The only thing I said to fans was that that fans and fan requests were changing. But that has to be managed. That is not the job of the fans. It's a developers job to keep their vision, not over-bloat their game or get distracted by side-content too long. So yea, it clearly went wrong at some point. I don't think in the case of Hreinn it's malicious, but I think the bubble has burst at this point and it certainly is a matter of managing the whole project. Be that that the motivation/passion is just gone, or the content pipeline has major issues. But yea, I talked about the vision, in no way did I say it's the fans fault and idk how you got the idea.
 
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kklol

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Probably hard to motivate yourself to finish when you're getting paid anyways. This is why I dislike patreon model.
 

Umbra.Nox

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Probably hard to motivate yourself to finish when you're getting paid anyways. This is why I dislike patreon model.
Unfortunately many people think that the more money creator gets - the more productive he becomes. But overpaying hurts them a lot, and probably in an irreversible way too, you can't just start paying less and expect them to get motivated again, they'll be insulted and sad by such a downgrade. A flawed system, where it eventually kills a lot of creators.
 

Umbra.Nox

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I don't get it. Where is NOMO? Surely, even the die hard patreon should feel suspicious by now...
Dead, and Ndsferrari with Monsinne desperately trying to cover it up, reusing his previous pics, and hidden, unfinished art. That's what losing patrons did to them. You thought they'll just get discouraged and guilty, but instead they ate Nomo and took his money, so that the blow on their well-being will be softer for some time.
 

scheriel

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I think we are not too far off from getting some AI imagines updates for this game and I mean official ones commissioned by the Hreinn team. I don't know about Nomos current health status, but AI imagines might be the last thing that would keep this game running. Like hell I would pay a montly subscription to something that doesn't yield any results, but you never know what the majority of their subs think.
 
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I think we are not too far off from getting some AI imagines updates for this game and I mean official ones commissioned by the Hreinn team. I don't know about Nomos current health status, but AI imagines might be the last thing that would keep this game running. Like hell I would pay a montly subscription to something that doesn't yield any results, but you never know what the majority of their subs think.
Ai images will ruin this game (that is, if the dev doesnt just drop it)
 
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Great730

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People, please tell me how long Nomo has been missing
And I remember they talked here about creating a game similar to the kingdom is it still relevant? I just dream of taking away the faces of the developers when a similar game is released
 

Jinsoyun

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People, please tell me how long Nomo has been missing
And I remember they talked here about creating a game similar to the kingdom is it still relevant? I just dream of taking away the faces of the developers when a similar game is released
I think the "creating a new game" talk was exclusively by the community here, or at least i don't remember any of the Hreinn dev team ever saying anything like that.

And Nomo has been missing at least since last July. Since the next patch is going to be the second part of the current filler, it is also likely that he is going to be missing that one too. Other details are unclear.
 
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Ion.TemUS

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Probably hard to motivate yourself to finish when you're getting paid anyways. This is why I dislike patreon model.
I think patreon definitely works better for artists and people who continuously create content. As far as games go I feel fundraising like Kickstarter is just better for both sides: You can raise money beforehand, so you need a vision, a plan, a timetable and a budget. And after having done what you set out to do you can always look into making DLCs or sequels or whatnot.

As for Nomo, pretty sure they have had some serious medical issues since Autumn of last year and it's all pretty private. I don't Nomo is a person who'd lie about that. I think if they were not in the mood to draw anymore they would just say so, and if they could not continue drawing ever they would also say so.
 
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Partyboy78

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I think the "creating a new game" talk was exclusively by the community here, or at least i don't remember any of the Hreinn dev team ever saying anything like that.

And Nomo has been missing at least since last July. Since the next patch is going to be the second part of the current filler, it is also likely that he is going to be missing that one too. Other details are unclear.
Since July?

At this point, they need to have just hired a new artist to fill in. Lord knows they make enough money on Patreon with how many people continue to stay subscribed for very little work put out, but this current decision to reuse artwork to the point there are no new scenes, just poorly written dialogue will catch up quickly. Naturally, I get that means for them to actually care about this game as well.
 
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Negativpro0

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People, please tell me how long Nomo has been missing
And I remember they talked here about creating a game similar to the kingdom is it still relevant? I just dream of taking away the faces of the developers when a similar game is released
Regarding new artworks, it has been many months now. To check if he is actually dead/missing you gotta look at his activity on their discord server.
 

Jinsoyun

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Since July?

At this point, they need to have just hired a new artist to fill in. Lord knows they make enough money on Patreon with how many people continue to stay subscribed for very little work put out, but this current decision to reuse artwork to the point there are no new scenes, just poorly written dialogue will catch up quickly. Naturally, I get that means for them to actually care about this game as well.
Nomo isn't just the artist, but the narrative lead, designer and the team leader too, so finding a new artist would be akin to kicking the guy out from his own house. Even if someone would want to argue for this call, it would still mean that the team had to get not only a new artist, but probably multiple other people to fill in the roles. They already lack PR and management completely, i don't think they could handle losing 4 other roles too well.
 
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Partyboy78

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Nomo isn't just the artist, but the narrative lead, designer and the team leader too, so finding a new artist would be akin to kicking the guy out from his own house. Even if someone would want to argue for this call, it would still mean that the team had to get not only a new artist, but probably multiple other people to fill in the roles. They already lack PR and management completely, i don't think they could handle losing 4 other roles too well.
Ah, I didn't know his role was that over-seeing. But I mean, surely he's able to contribute some of that still whilst having his more involved roles delegated to another person.

Only spit-balling b/c I do want to see this game revert back to its better days. It feels like when we got that story arc of Sabia giving into the Shaman & letting Ylva be used was the last time we got some original art & a good story.
 
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