VN Ren'Py Abandoned Kingdom of Deception [v0.14.2.2] [Hreinn Games]

[Mayra]

I would like to see her involved with Jadk (the old orc from the tavern) in some scene, their relationship has been growing from the beginning of the game, sadly in a friendly way.

 

[Viressa]

Hey guys I got my hands on a leaked scene from 0.8:

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[Mayra]

Damn it I was excited until I read the "joke" part...

 

[Angmir]

I would like to see her involved with Jadk (the old orc from the tavern) in some scene, their relationship has been growing from the beginning of the game, sadly in a friendly way.

Jadk is the main antagonist.

If you havent noticed JADK is the mastermind behind all shemes going on in the Camp.

He was the one that orchestrated Catgirls raid on Orc caravan that stole the holy iron (or whatever)
He was the one that again planned the route of Old Chief that got him into an ambush
And Old Chiefs Orc were drinking stupid night before this in HIS Inn
And he manipulated Sabia on every step to do what he wanted her to do.
And after all this he out of the blue becomes a "temporary" warchief - for only A SEVERAL MONTHS !

Most of all he even says it bluntly on every turn that he feels like he is responsible for theese things !

Seriously I have been suspicious of this from the first conversation we had with him, but after he become temporary "Palpatine" I became sure of it.

JADK is probably main antagonist among orc.
He and the Shaman are behind all Orc problems
And they working with Sabia's Mother to create some sort of super magical monsters etc.

Bad Ending where Sabia is experimented on and fucked by huge creature that seems to be something like mahor/minotaur breed - further solidifies this.

Seriously Am I the only one that sees this comming ?

 

[RNDM]

So, basically, Jadk and the Shaman are the local Templar representatives? Time to bust out the goofy falcon hoods I guess.
Also ILLOOOMITAATI KONFIIIRMT

 

[Angmir]

Oh and BTW Jadk came to current Ork Camp from another tribe that was destroyed.

I bet it was the Tribe that Chief Gnashak was talking about that was led by his friend.

I bet Jadk was responsible for their demise too.

 

[Mayra]

Jadk is the main antagonist.

If you havent noticed JADK is the mastermind behind all shemes going on in the Camp.

He was the one that orchestrated Catgirls raid on Orc caravan that stole the holy iron (or whatever)
He was the one that again planned the route of Old Chief that got him into an ambush
And Old Chiefs Orc were drinking stupid night before this in HIS Inn
And he manipulated Sabia on every step to do what he wanted her to do.
And after all this he out of the blue becomes a "temporary" warchief - for only A SEVERAL MONTHS !

Most of all he even says it bluntly on every turn that he feels like he is responsible for theese things !

Seriously I have been suspicious of this from the first conversation we had with him, but after he become temporary "Palpatine" I became sure of it.

JADK is probably main antagonist among orc.
He and the Shaman are behind all Orc problems
And they working with Sabia's Mother to create some sort of super magical monsters etc.

Bad Ending where Sabia is experimented on and fucked by huge creature that seems to be something like mahor/minotaur breed - further solidifies this.

Seriously Am I the only one that sees this comming ?

Actually that makes a lot of sense, it's weird how easily he supported Sabia from the first moment... If the game ends with the 1.0.0 update I think we will find the answer soon.

 

[Deleted member 159020]

Jadk is the main antagonist.

If you havent noticed JADK is the mastermind behind all shemes going on in the Camp.

He was the one that orchestrated Catgirls raid on Orc caravan that stole the holy iron (or whatever)
He was the one that again planned the route of Old Chief that got him into an ambush
And Old Chiefs Orc were drinking stupid night before this in HIS Inn
And he manipulated Sabia on every step to do what he wanted her to do.
And after all this he out of the blue becomes a "temporary" warchief - for only A SEVERAL MONTHS !

Most of all he even says it bluntly on every turn that he feels like he is responsible for theese things !

Seriously I have been suspicious of this from the first conversation we had with him, but after he become temporary "Palpatine" I became sure of it.

JADK is probably main antagonist among orc.
He and the Shaman are behind all Orc problems
And they working with Sabia's Mother to create some sort of super magical monsters etc.

Bad Ending where Sabia is experimented on and fucked by huge creature that seems to be something like mahor/minotaur breed - further solidifies this.

Seriously Am I the only one that sees this comming ?

It'd be awesome.
But I think it's not the case. Or at least that this was not the author's original intention.

 

[Angmir]

It'd be awesome.
But I think it's not the case. Or at least that this was not the author's original intention.

I think there is too much hints in the Jadk own dialogues to be coincident.
Like for example when we go to him ask about Catgirls raid - he admits he is the one that schedules their convoys routes, and he feels responsible that the Catgirls ambushed it !
Sly bastard is so smug he doesnt even hide it, and everyone is still sympathetic towards him.

I cant say if that was intention from the start but I sure looks like it is now.

OFC game is in development and they will no doubt modify the initial plans as they go.

So it is possible that I could guess storywriters intend right now, but it will never be confirmed in a story ;]

Devs hate to see their carefully laid plot twist plans get found out early, so if enough people get a whiff of what is going on, they can change it out of spite ;p
It happens a lot even in mainstreem movies, games and books.

IF I am right I still have to give kudos to the writer though. - He did a great job to leave the clues all over the game, but in a subtle enough way.
Most people will not see it comming, but people will not be able to tell it is deux ex machina when it is revealed.
Nicely played

 

[Deleted member 159020]

I think there is too much hints in the Jadk own dialogues to be coincident.
Like for example when we go to him ask about Catgirls raid - he admits he is the one that schedules their convoys routes, and he feels responsible that the Catgirls ambushed it !
Sly bastard is so smug he doesnt even hide it, and everyone is still sympathetic towards him.

I cant say if that was intention from the start but I sure looks like it is now.

OFC game is in development and they will no doubt modify the initial plans as they go.

So it is possible that I could guess storywriters intend right now, but it will never be confirmed in a story ;]

Devs hate to see their carefully laid plot twist plans get found out early, so if enough people get a whiff of what is going on, they can change it out of spite ;p
It happens a lot even in mainstreem movies, games and books.

IF I am right I still have to give kudos to the writer though. - He did a great job to leave the clues all over the game, but in a subtle enough way.
Most people will not see it comming, but people will not be able to tell it is deux ex machina when it is revealed.
Nicely played

Well, if it comes to that, not having seen it coming would be normal: we play one update at a time at months of distance. Unless one replays constantly the game from start to finish it's hard to keep track of minor stuff.

 

[Angmir]

Another character that will be Instrumental to the plot is Kia.

She seems like totaly optional side character - but I bet she will be haunted by Sabia's Mother as neccessery component to their plans.
At first It was strange for me how main storyline was beeing locked before you do quest, now I see that she is integral to the storyline.

It seems they are trying to crossbreed Mahors with something, probably usual Anime ploy - to create Magical beeing of Godlike power and use it to become god themselfs.

 

[Angmir]

Well, if it comes to that, not having seen it coming would be normal: we play one update at a time at months of distance. Unless one replays constantly the game from start to finish it's hard to keep track of minor stuff.

Yeah I just played the game in one go (over 2 days) - I guess it makes it easier for me to pick it up.

 

[Mayra]

I think there is too much hints in the Jadk own dialogues to be coincident.
Like for example when we go to him ask about Catgirls raid - he admits he is the one that schedules their convoys routes, and he feels responsible that the Catgirls ambushed it !
Sly bastard is so smug he doesnt even hide it, and everyone is still sympathetic towards him.

I cant say if that was intention from the start but I sure looks like it is now.

OFC game is in development and they will no doubt modify the initial plans as they go.

So it is possible that I could guess storywriters intend right now, but it will never be confirmed in a story ;]

Devs hate to see their carefully laid plot twist plans get found out early, so if enough people get a whiff of what is going on, they can change it out of spite ;p
It happens a lot even in mainstreem movies, games and books.

IF I am right I still have to give kudos to the writer though. - He did a great job to leave the clues all over the game, but in a subtle enough way.
Most people will not see it comming, but people will not be able to tell it is deux ex machina when it is revealed.
Nicely played

What happened exactly between the original writer and the artist? They did not agree on how the story should've developed? What was the author's original intention then?

 

[Angmir]

What happened exactly between the original writer and the artist? They did not agree on how the story should've developed? What was the author's original intention then?

Oh I wasnt paying attencion to that drama (Like I said - I just picked up the game 2 days ago)

Now that you mention it - I heard storywriter abandoned the project or something ?
I guess that makes the rewrite of that intended storyline a big possibility.

Shame - I didnt like it at first, but when it got going, and I noticed the hidden "Deception" in it I kind of begin to like it.

PS !

Last piece of "clarevoyance" from me.

Vehlis is obviously playing a game too. I am not sure if you will be able to eventualy steal her loyality, but for now she is working against Sabia and the Orcs.
She convinced the old Chief to go to that meating after all - again - sly biaich saying so blatantly.
I imagine she is there spying on Sabia too, but she probably didnt reveat that to Tyra yet.

 

[Count_Chocula]

What's the point of making a game so complicated that it can only be played while meticulously following the developer's walkthrough?

 

[UncleVT]

What's the point of making a game so complicated that it can only be played while meticulously following the developer's walkthrough?

Wait, there isn't a "developer's walkthrough".

 

[plan C failed]

Do we know if saves are going to be compatible with future updates from now on?
Also can I cheat by increasing both Sub and Dom points without that resulting in a broken game and getting both options at times?
Thanks in advance, love the game .

 

[Deleted member 159020]

Do we know if saves are going to be compatible with future updates from now on?
Also can I cheat by increasing both Sub and Dom points without that resulting in a broken game and getting both options at times?
Thanks in advance, love the game .

Saves have worked for the past few releases, if I'm not mistaken.
You can increase both those with no problem. But be warned that there are a few instances in the code where the check is not for absolute value of dom or sub, but for which of those is higher.

 

[Count_Chocula]

Wait, there isn't a "developer's walkthrough".

Oh, I thought it was Hreinn games’ Patreon that was linked for the walkthrough but I was wrong. Still, I’m disappointed that the only feature this game is missing is streamlined, unmissable content.

 

[Deleted member 159020]

Oh, I thought it was Hreinn games’ Patreon that was linked for the walkthrough but I was wrong. Still, I’m disappointed that the only feature this game is missing is streamlined, unmissable content.

It's not that hard to get most of the content even with no walkthrough, honestly.
And being a Ren'Py game when in doubt you can always look up the code.

Besides, I suggest using the mod by John Dupont, which you can find posted by the author on this forum in its public version, that has a gallery toggle. That way you can either watch all scenes you missed or you can toggle them temporarily to read their description, thus getting an idea of how to find them in game.