JasDoc

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One of the tags is Kinetic Novel, so no choices or anything?
I don't deny that I prefer to have extensive selection of choices, however, their absence increases the frequency of updates and amount of juicy content. In this case, I didn't even notice during the game that it was a kinetic novel. The dev mentioned that the game remains linear, but side quests will be introduced, that can be accepted or not. Worth a shot imo.
 
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Kingdom of Deception [v0.14] [Hreinn Games] – Compressed & macOS version

Some were asking for a macOS version of v0.14, so I built an unofficial one using SDK 6.99.13 and the provided Win/Lin game files.

- Tested macOS Ventura

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Official Win/Lin Compressed

- Tested Windows 11

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nyqz

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Just played through the new update on the sub-path. Honestly I think I might be the only person who wasn't bothered by the top-down scenes. Sure I they're a bit weird and I wouldn't want them to become the main style the game used, but I just wasn't that bothed by them.
The writing on the other hand, holy shit this update was awful. Sabia being this bitchy and confrontational during the normal dialogue would have been fine at one point, but this far down the sub-path, in her current position, it just doesn't make sense. Especially since every h scene is just her being raped she comes across as kind of an idiot. Which would be fine if this was an actual bimbofication game or a comedy, but it isn't either of those things.
Also I can't believe how disappointing the scene where Elmy walked in on Sabia getting gangbanged in her tent was. Characters commenting on Sabia's growing reputation was one of my favorite parts of the game, this totally fumbles it.
Only real positive thing I have to say about it is that it's nice to hear Lutvrog might be a part of the story again, I like his character.
 

Assassin3

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Weird... I don't know where it could come from then...
but thanks for testing

Fuck I really don't want to restart all over again , the amount of grind in this game will break my Ctrl key
Quoting an old post here but I might've found the solution to trigger the Chaos in the Camp quest. Not sure if the latest update changed anything, but going through the 12.1 walkthrough on here and just right after the Lakelord quest I spoke to Kia in the forest (no step that tells you to talk to Kia after) and rested. That's what got the quest triggered for me. Hope that helps anybody that's still having the issue.
 
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LewdLena

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I remember very well my beginnings with this game... Beautiful graphics, interesting storyline... but the more I delved into the plot of this game, I realized that this game is not really that cool. Instead of enjoying the game, I had to do point by point what the developers are forcing the players to do. I don't see the point in playing a game where 99% of my time is spent reading walkthroughs + very, very rare updates (2x a year is max)
No thanks.
 

Assassin3

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I remember very well my beginnings with this game... Beautiful graphics, interesting storyline... but the more I delved into the plot of this game, I realized that this game is not really that cool. Instead of enjoying the game, I had to do point by point what the developers are forcing the players to do. I don't see the point in playing a game where 99% of my time is spent reading walkthroughs + very, very rare updates (2x a year is max)
No thanks.
Agree. The fact that they haven't even implemented a proper quest log with step by step objectives since release says a lot already. Like heck, even using the walkthrough on here I still end up getting lost.
 

BigBiggieBig

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Agree. The fact that they haven't even implemented a proper quest log with step by step objectives since release says a lot already. Like heck, even using the walkthrough on here I still end up getting lost.
That issue was prominent in their first game, actually. Noxian Nights without a guide is kind of unplayable, maybe you can beat it eventually, but it'll be more annoying than anything and definitely not worth the trouble. Even worse if you wanted to try for other endings. I think that was more or less the biggest issue with that game, and they still haven't addressed it in this one, nor will they.
 

brittC25

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That issue was prominent in their first game, actually. Noxian Nights without a guide is kind of unplayable, maybe you can beat it eventually, but it'll be more annoying than anything and definitely not worth the trouble. Even worse if you wanted to try for other endings. I think that was more or less the biggest issue with that game, and they still haven't addressed it in this one, nor will they.
I like the game, but, it is a hot buggy mess in reality, renders got worse not better since its beginning, story is all over the place, a quest log for the game is 100% needed, the kira path is still bugged after all the fixes for it.

Someone needs to sit down and take a day or two and go through the entire code, and clean it of all errors/mistakes and start with said fresh clean code.

It covers most fetish paths people ask for, orc/girl, guy girl, girl/girl, girl/hellhound, girl/tentacles.

The game had such promise, it could still be great, but, it needs a major overhaul in reality.
 

Assassin3

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I like the game, but, it is a hot buggy mess in reality, renders got worse not better since its beginning, story is all over the place, a quest log for the game is 100% needed, the kira path is still bugged after all the fixes for it.

Someone needs to sit down and take a day or two and go through the entire code, and clean it of all errors/mistakes and start with said fresh clean code.

It covers most fetish paths people ask for, orc/girl, guy girl, girl/girl, girl/hellhound, girl/tentacles.

The game had such promise, it could still be great, but, it needs a major overhaul in reality.
With how this game is currently turning out right now, and their bs of a greedy release schedule with their updates, I honestly don't expect much from them to even bother to do a overhaul. Sad, but it is what it is.
 

Serena

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Wow the fact that no new alerts came from this thread really shows that people have mostly exhausted themselves (I guess), anyway any heroes around who can tell what is going on with "second part" of the quest will we be able to get it by the end of let's say summer?
 

Negativpro0

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Wow the fact that no new alerts came from this thread really shows that people have mostly exhausted themselves (I guess), anyway any heroes around who can tell what is going on with "second part" of the quest will we be able to get it by the end of let's say summer?
We are supposed to receive the second part of the Vehlis captured quest. Which requires having done certain choiches during a previous event ( interrogation from an Orc ). With that we will reach a bad end where Sabia gets imprisoned by the Orcs, possibly with Vehlis too. So this quest took more than one year to be completed.

The third part of the update should feature a new quest that will move forward the story by a lot. Should involve the Orc captains, Neve and other characters. Plus the other part of the Top view scenes we see should be added.

All of this stuff, except the top view scenes part, weere started months ago, it is unlikely we would see them all completed by 2023. As in with the current rhytm of the developers it is impossible for the game to advance as much as promised. Remember that last update took 5 months and it is only a part of the update.

Here is some data regarding Hreinn games patreon.
This one is 22 2018 is their peak, Sierra was still here. She left during half of 2018, the announcement was made towards the end of that year. This is also noticeable in the graph, that second peak close to 2018 is June 2018, after that they started losing patreons and many pledged less money. Next year less patreons were lost, but again, many pledged less money.

Their last peak was in September 2021, when after multiple months of delay and teases of CG and content to be featured in the update, they release 0.12 in the 31 August. This was the last big update they did and also the first that took so many months. Unlike the recent ones though, this brought lot of content to the game.

Under the pressure of negative feedback they removed the money counter in December of 2021. Over the last wait they reached their lowest number of patreons over the last 5 years, 690. As of 22 February of 2023 they are 766. Given their previous trends it is safe to assume that the average patreon pledge lowered too, which means they are now earning below 3000$.

Had time to write this cause i received news my job is gonna be shorter while procastinating on it already.

Do with this information what you will. I invite all people in their discord to encourage the devs to improve their efforts on the game. This is not, as stated by somebody before, just a simple circlejerk of negative thoughts. This is confirmed by data. Last graph is the chart from Sierra Lee patreon, you can see the Dates matches what i said.


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Negativpro0

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I understand this is some long text, but felt like sharing and i am kinda tired. Sorry to the guy above for the long answer that almost looks like i am scolding you or something.

Here the last links of the game, i remember people complaining about the lack of Mac version:

KOD 0.14.0

PC VERSION:

MAC VERSION:


KoD Bonus Scenes client:
PC VERSION:
MAC VERSION:


Art pack: 12


Also Shoutout to the hero who shared the patreon posts. Thank you a lot
 

CourierNPC

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Wow the fact that no new alerts came from this thread really shows that people have mostly exhausted themselves (I guess), anyway any heroes around who can tell what is going on with "second part" of the quest will we be able to get it by the end of let's say summer?
I doubt we'll get anything until Summer. I'm not active here anymore because I know that Hreinn is pulling the same thing over and over and I have to expect that things gonna change?

As they say in the Rook Islands, this is plain insanity
 
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