Others Kings Fall [v0.2.7.4c] [Bastard Games]

[Champinon]

I'm currently stuck, I have reached this point with both npc's however no events are triggered.


I don't know what i'm doing wrong, i've tested this with several saves to see if it was just me (And to give you better feedback) and nothing.
Also i've noted something: sometimes this event does not trigger and requires a few attempts to see the dialogue in the portal and in the Mushmom area even with that sometimes the scene does not trigger at all.



Here is my save, don't worry to fix it and send it back to me if there is any problem, it's just a test save I made for you to see.

 

[Scorche]

where do you imput the password at?

 

[FreedomPantsu]

I used the potion of passing and my xp didn't carry over and my coins didn't go to my stash, I thought I might have missed some of the corruption path because I didn't have the forbidden card until later. Is there a way to fix this? I managed to get back using reallyold.save, but why doesn't the potion of passing work?

 

[baka]

FreedomPantsu send your .sav (also old ones) (PM or here) and I can take a look.
I will do my own testing and see if it works. need name of char if u have multiple ones.

Scorche
u need to talk to Fredrick in mushroom town and enter the coin shop. u will see a "type" button. click that.

 

[baka]

I did my own testing. so I "killed" a level 51 char.
the game sent me to "login" page. I created a new char, I went to "my home" and click stash.
and "USE" tab. and here's the coin.


also, Im not sure if your stash is full? check "II" if its there? and if II is also full, maybe the coin is lost?
I think u need at least 1 free slot. check the map u killed the character if the coin is in "recycle".

 

[HaseoOfDeath]

I'm currently stuck, I have reached this point with both npc's however no events are triggered.

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I don't know what i'm doing wrong, i've tested this with several saves to see if it was just me (And to give you better feedback) and nothing.
Also i've noted something: sometimes this event does not trigger and requires a few attempts to see the dialogue in the portal and in the Mushmom area even with that sometimes the scene does not trigger at all.

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Here is my save, don't worry to fix it and send it back to me if there is any problem, it's just a test save I made for you to see.

So this was a oversight on my end and the quest in question is looking for a variable that cannot be gotten on the Corruption Path. I'll add an Override for everyone in this next update and I've added the variable in question to the quest just right before the Rage of the Father Quest for Camila.

For you, I added the variable manually so you can at least see the scenes that follow. Everyone will have access on the next update through an override and natural progression

 

[FreedomPantsu]

save.sav is my file I went back too, asave.sav is mine from after using the potion of passing, in both of them my stash is empty.

 

[baka]

this is asave.sav (your level 2 character) and checking stash I found this.
u can't see it?

 

[FreedomPantsu]

I see now, I didn't know that you had to switch the inventory to USE, I figured everything got stored together in Stash.

 

[baka]

yeah. maybe not obvious. but since theres a limit how much u can view in 1 page and also they are different types of items we have TABS. where equip are items u can put on the character, USE is everything that can be consumed, coins, skillbooks (not available in kingsfall) but also domain-items, scrolls, returnscrolls and more
and ETC for all kinds of items that are mostly used as resources, or quest-items and books/notes that u can read.
u also see I and II right? that to give you more space for your items that u want to save.
stash can be used by all your characters. u can also use the "transferitem" key. to move your stuff between the storage.
stack on/off are used to tell the transferitem to merge "same item" together or not. this is u want to have multiple slot with same items if by chance u like to send a certain amount.
remember u can use right mouse button to split items.

 

[eljuanan]

Is there any mod to skip all the fucking grinding? Cheat engine is good for money and experience but the quests are utterly shit. This is umplayable despite the world, the story and the scenes being nice.

 

[HaseoOfDeath]

Is there any mod to skip all the fucking grinding? Cheat engine is good for money and experience but the quests are utterly shit. This is umplayable despite the world, the story and the scenes being nice.

I'm working on a few sections as we speak to help the trouble areas. Can I ask where you are at and any problem areas? I'll make sure to look at it and settle things where I can.

 

[eljuanan]

I'm working on a few sections as we speak to help the trouble areas. Can I ask where you are at and any problem areas? I'll make sure to look at it and settle things where I can.

The main problems are:
>The skip buttom ends up closing the game, and the .exe posted doesn't give me much confidence
>The moment I use cheat engine the music stop (Then don't use CE >> Then make the game easier to play)
>The grinding is a nightmare. I'm not gonna repeat everything already said on the thread, but it is too fucking much. You could add a mode with the possibiltity of completing quests automatically, or at least those consisting on "Get 50 materials of the kind that only drop by RNG after killing 100 fucking creatures). The ones like finding staff like the riddles are top tier.

Now just some general suggestions:
>Implement a history of conversations (if you abuse the skipping buttom you may lose some important information without a chance to reread it)
>When confirming the love or corruption for a heroine it would be nice to have the option of exit the conversation to rethink it.
>Once completed a love or corruption line it would be nice to have the option of rolling back the relation to the branching point to have access to all the scenes and conversations.


For me the worst is that I actually would like to play your game cause It has a good story, fun characters and a big world very well done.... but the gameplay sucks mate, at least the RNG grinding.

 

[eljuanan]

eljuanan
this is a game not VN. and as any other sandbox/gameplay it require playing.
in RPG games u need to fight monsters, that can also get grindy. in sandbox games u need to repeat chores many times to progress. and in maple.x u need to kill monsters (idle/clicker-games).
I mean, no matter how much we offer u guy, u complain.
u can use stamps and badges, u can use medal of safety so enemy will not attack u,
u can use leveling coins 25/50 to skip levels, u can get numerous quest items from Nave (example).
theres drop/rate coupons and finders coupons. and more.
but even so u don't like it and want to see the porn only.
u know what? Im tired of this non-stop. if u don't like it go find a game that suit you. why trash this game if its not for you?
I can not give out more except just open the fucking recollection with all the scenes. is that what u want? just PORN so u can FAP?

Look man, first this is a porn game site so get off your high horse.

The grinding is unreal and pretty much everyone on this thread has said so because it is the truth. In a game you do missions, they can be a bit tedious some of them but thats why they are games, I'm not against it. The problem is that this is a RNG nightmare, not the leveling, not the skiping story fragments nor anything like that.

For example a quest of killing X creatures is totally fine, you know how many you have to kill and you have a set time to do it depending on how strong you are, etc. But missions like: get 20 pieces of whatever when that crap only drops once or twice every hundred monsters is too fucking much man. And you can play for one... two.... three quests like that, but when you have expended several hours for shitty quests like that you just stop playing.

Stating the facts and saying what you don't like from a game is not hating, is just saying the truth that may or may not help the dev that is totally free to do what he wants of course.

 

[HaseoOfDeath]

Now just some general suggestions:
>Implement a history of conversations (if you abuse the skipping buttom you may lose some important information without a chance to reread it)
>When confirming the love or corruption for a heroine it would be nice to have the option of exit the conversation to rethink it.
>Once completed a love or corruption line it would be nice to have the option of rolling back the relation to the branching point to have access to all the scenes and conversations.

1. This is already a thing. The Green Pencil or by pressing G on the keyboard opens the Log which tracks the last 12 quests and the conversations/story within them.
2. While I've had this recommendation before, I keep the current way due to how the Hero's personality is presented as the Light Hero and the Dark Hero. It's a design choice and I'm not sure how to write it so it makes sense to back out and choose something more loving or more Corrupted.
3. And this is next to impossible. We're working on a way to unlock sex scenes in the Gallery but reverting a Lovers or Corruption choice is something we simply cannot do nor is it even remotely feasible.
NPC's move to different cities, the Affection System goes +/- to symbolize a more Loving area or a Slutty/Corrupted one. There's just no possible way to revert plus it's a HUGE cop out. I want to inspire replayability and make it actually worth it to do so.

 

[baka]

u can use the "LOG" to re-read.
u can use the "ESC" key to exit a conversation
branching: its a real-time game, u can't do that. what u can do is to buy the "clone-card" if u want branching.
that is also the reason of badges and stamps, leveling coins and even potion of passing. use that.
most "difficult" missions has a NPC that u can use to buy the stuff from. use that.

we spend tons of time with the game and we offer our patrons more options and to "cheat".
even so we added a lot of ways to speed it up. without u spending anything. for free.

if a mission has bad drop-rates is because u didnt activate it properly.
all mission that are activated will grant u specific drop rates for that item u need.
I assume its the PIG-mission?

it is impossible to make it easier without making a crap game. this is supposed to be a bit grindy.
u like it or u don't thats the thing.
but sure, if theres a mission that require too much Haseo can adjust it.
even so, if the mission is activated u should get the drop quite fast.

the best thing u can do is:
- tell what mission u have difficult with and Haseo can look into it. thats how u ask
if u say "everything is bad" how the fuck can we know what to do?

also, the game is currently undergoing core/engine changes. so bugs happens.
that is worked on to create a more stable version.

 

[chikuwa53]

Why monster's HP healed…?

 

[HaseoOfDeath]

Why monster's HP healed…?

Monsters have built in regen. What monster are you fighting?

 

[baka]

normal monsters has a natural HP regeneration.
but to compensate, monster will now take longer to attack. the "!" status is longer because every "turn" theres a chance they will attack, before they would start attacking after that "turn". also the "defense" status they get when u are stronger, will not last forever. thats the changes I made for monsters. also, the auto-click (slow) is faster now.

 

[chikuwa53]

Monsters have built in regen. What monster are you fighting?

I fighting "Mano"
But I used safety medal ... I can't beat it