Ren'Py Konoha Milfs [v0.7] [Kimkun0162]

[roy555]

nice

 

[LordFrz]

F game, the menu is all bugged with patreon login

That's because this is the leaked patreon version. And if you cant figure out how to bypass it when its fuckin renpy you dont deserve to play it for free anyways, lol.

Seriously, just edit the code, takes 2 seconds.

 

[momoman2]

Ok firstly I would like to say I'm a graphic designer, so what I'm about to say isn't me talking out of my ass, I know what I'm talking about when it comes to art and its production.

This update contains the work of MAXIMUM one week's worth of work, and I'm being very generous with the estimation.
The shading of his art, even though very well placed and thought through isent that hard to make it's border line comic shading wich is used more comonly in the west for faster production because its not as ditailed as normal shading to give deapth to surfise areas, skin ets.

This update contains practically 3 new CGs with some small variations, and although they are very well made they aren't the result of one month's worth of work.
Anyone with a fair bit of training and practice of Photoshop and drawing in general can pull the workload of this update by himself in one week including planning, positioning, and revisions.
And he is supposed to have artists with an S at the end. So either someone is slacking off way too much or there are no artists.

Yes, the monthly updates are way faster than other developers, but still, this is supposed to be a project that has 3 artists at minimum that are supposed to work for at least 20 days a month.

Something doesn't add up.

Yeah this was something that was discussed in this thread before. I can't draw for shit so i can't possibly tell how long it takes to draw stuff like this, but i'm a game dev so for me personally his updates are very small, especially considering he advertised 0.5 as a big update, which turned out very short. As well as the game having very weird grammar errors, like the characters referring to Haruto as "she" sometimes. There's no way that's a full months work, unless he can't code at all and spends 3 weeks trying to code the game using chatgpt or something, but the game is made in renpy engine and it should be pretty easy, not only that but from what i saw he has some guy fixing bugs for him, so maybe he also helps with coding. The art is nice and the story and pacing is good so far, but damn i doubt the game will progress into anything worth playing even in a year or two. My pig princess has a far more detailed art style with many more scene and character diversity, and look how far the game has gotten in 2 years (or even 1.5 years considering the latest update came out just recently and took almost a year, while adding just 15-20 minutes of gameplay and one sex scene). Seriously though, if kimkun has some personal or family issues that hinder his ability to work, he can just come out and say that, no one will judge and everyone will understand, but currently it just looks like bro works 2 hours a day. Either that or he has some serious issues organizing and planning

 

[Superbior]

Yeah this was something that was discussed in this thread before. I can't draw for shit so i can't possibly tell how long it takes to draw stuff like this, but i'm a game dev so for me personally his updates are very small, especially considering he advertised 0.5 as a big update, which turned out very short. As well as the game having very weird grammar errors, like the characters referring to Haruto as "she" sometimes. There's no way that's a full months work, unless he can't code at all and spends 3 weeks trying to code the game using chatgpt or something, but the game is made in renpy engine and it should be pretty easy, not only that but from what i saw he has some guy fixing bugs for him, so maybe he also helps with coding. The art is nice and the story and pacing is good so far, but damn i doubt the game will progress into anything worth playing even in a year or two. My pig princess has a far more detailed art style with many more scene and character diversity, and look how far the game has gotten in 2 years (or even 1.5 years considering the latest update came out just recently and took almost a year, while adding just 15-20 minutes of gameplay and one sex scene). Seriously though, if kimkun has some personal or family issues that hinder his ability to work, he can just come out and say that, no one will judge and everyone will understand, but currently it just looks like bro works 2 hours a day. Either that or he has some serious issues organizing and planning

Hence why I said he needs a professional programmer. The man is an artist not a coder.
He should focus on the art aspect of the game, not trying to haphazardly make code on the fly for the game while drawing.
And supposedly paying other artists and only having to show the work of one man's worth of production for one week's worth of work.
I know for a fact that he has at least one artist on his payroll for sure or so it would seem from conversations I can recall on his Discord. But in his Patreon, the last tier says Support for my artists with an S.
And he needs a translator. English isn't his native language it's abundantly clear.

 

[LordFrz]

As a serial procrastinator and university trained spaghetti coder myself, I don't mind updates being slow or not that big. That's just how it is when you play WIP games. If that annoys you just wait till its complete.

Somtimes you spend way too long on somthing and you think you did way more work then you did. I one spent 19hrs working on changing the color of a on screen HUD. The color picker and adjustments where cool as shit to me. But at the end of the day it was only a few buttons to change the color, so not that impressive. lol This was way before ai and a lot of that time was combing forums looking for documentation on how the fuck to do what I wanted to do.

 

[noiuhfdhdh]

If things continue like this, we may say goodbye to a beautiful game that was expected to have a bright future, especially with the many fans of its beautiful graphics and those who are more interested in the artistic aspect than the technical aspect.

 

[noiuhfdhdh]

After the update 0.4 and 0.5, I expected fans' opinions to change, but after today's vote on Patreon, more than 65 percent of fans are sticking to the artistic side and some scenes from various angles with drawings like Hinata's, and neglecting the terrible technical side, which is full of errors and bugs. It's unfortunate what this game is going through, especially since it literally has beautiful components like the story, graphics, and music, but what's holding it back is the terrible technical side. Kim, you're an artist, your graphics are beautiful. If you want this game to succeed, focus on the artistic side and leave the technical side to the experts and programmers.

 

[TheG0AT011]

Anyone got a save file?? Cannot start it from beginning again

 

[noiuhfdhdh]

If this game reaches this level, we can expect a full year of scenes from two or three characters. Kim really needs to re-plan and address the mistakes of his game.

 

[momoman2]

As a serial procrastinator and university trained spaghetti coder myself, I don't mind updates being slow or not that big. That's just how it is when you play WIP games. If that annoys you just wait till its complete.

Somtimes you spend way too long on somthing and you think you did way more work then you did. I one spent 19hrs working on changing the color of a on screen HUD. The color picker and adjustments where cool as shit to me. But at the end of the day it was only a few buttons to change the color, so not that impressive. lol This was way before ai and a lot of that time was combing forums looking for documentation on how the fuck to do what I wanted to do.

I mean if you decided your business model is monthly releases for paid subscribers, you should fully expect to be criticized for the lack of content, and the free version release after a month argument doesn't work here, because you're still offering paid content to subscribers. He made that crystal clear by adding a patreon paywall login system, he isn't just collecting donations or offering bonus scenes for paid versions like some other devs who add a bonus animation or two for subscribers. Not only that, but even if he was just collecting donations, people would still be allowed to wonder where is the money going.

After the update 0.4 and 0.5, I expected fans' opinions to change, but after today's vote on Patreon, more than 65 percent of fans are sticking to the artistic side and some scenes from various angles with drawings like Hinata's, and neglecting the terrible technical side, which is full of errors and bugs. It's unfortunate what this game is going through, especially since it literally has beautiful components like the story, graphics, and music, but what's holding it back is the terrible technical side. Kim, you're an artist, your graphics are beautiful. If you want this game to succeed, focus on the artistic side and leave the technical side to the experts and programmers.

I think the current amount of images and animations per scene is perfect (aside from the weird triple animated breast groping from 0.5), i think if he made less images per scene it would seriously harm the perfect way this game is looking. That's not the problem here, the problem is that he doesn't spend as much time drawing as he should for unknown reasons (most likely technical side of the game). What he also needs is a good sound designer because holy shit the sounds were already not that great in this game, but in 0.5 they were truly bad with how loud and out of place some of them were, and the camshow sound when Naimi was masturbating with the japanese woman talking? It looked so rushed, like he just found them using google search in 10 seconds and dropped in the game without any work done

 

[LordFrz]

I mean if you decided your business model is monthly releases for paid subscribers, you should fully expect to be criticized for the lack of content, and the free version release after a month argument doesn't work here, because you're still offering paid content to subscribers. He made that crystal clear by adding a patreon paywall login system, he isn't just collecting donations or offering bonus scenes for paid versions like some other devs who add a bonus animation or two for subscribers. Not only that, but even if he was just collecting donations, people would still be allowed to wonder where is the money going.



I think the current amount of images and animations per scene is perfect (aside from the weird triple animated breast groping from 0.5), i think if he made less images per scene it would seriously harm the perfect way this game is looking. That's not the problem here, the problem is that he doesn't spend as much time drawing as he should for unknown reasons (most likely technical side of the game). What he also needs is a good sound designer because holy shit the sounds were already not that great in this game, but in 0.5 they were truly bad with how loud and out of place some of them were, and the camshow sound when Naimi was masturbating with the japanese woman talking? It looked so rushed, like he just found them using google search in 10 seconds and dropped in the game without any work done

You are always allowed to bitch about somthing you paid for. But im not paying, im on a pirate site stealing it.

 

[noiuhfdhdh]

I mean if you decided your business model is monthly releases for paid subscribers, you should fully expect to be criticized for the lack of content, and the free version release after a month argument doesn't work here, because you're still offering paid content to subscribers. He made that crystal clear by adding a patreon paywall login system, he isn't just collecting donations or offering bonus scenes for paid versions like some other devs who add a bonus animation or two for subscribers. Not only that, but even if he was just collecting donations, people would still be allowed to wonder where is the money going.



I think the current amount of images and animations per scene is perfect (aside from the weird triple animated breast groping from 0.5), i think if he made less images per scene it would seriously harm the perfect way this game is looking. That's not the problem here, the problem is that he doesn't spend as much time drawing as he should for unknown reasons (most likely technical side of the game). What he also needs is a good sound designer because holy shit the sounds were already not that great in this game, but in 0.5 they were truly bad with how loud and out of place some of them were, and the camshow sound when Naimi was masturbating with the japanese woman talking? It looked so rushed, like he just found them using google search in 10 seconds and dropped in the game without any work done

The problem is that the number of still and animated graphics for each scene is what hinders the development of the game because Kim focuses on the graphics in each scene. Imagine that this update has 6 scenes. I think that Kim considers the scene to be a single drawing, and this is really a problem because in this way, how many updates will we need over the years to get complete scenes for Hinata and the rest of the characters that were not even hinted at in the first place?

 

[Superbior]

I think it's very clear that if people from different professions come to the same conclusion the problem is very real.
Yes, the art is gorgeous, the different angles and animations "the breast groping in 0.5" with the streaming screen, are very well made but are not one month's worth of work.
You get a programmer that knows what he is doing, and you focus on the art since you are an artist not a programmer.
And if the budget doesn't allow it I'm sorry, but one of the artists that are on the project now has to go.
The current production doesn't make sense, having more artists for this amount of content and not a dedicated programmer since it's literally half of the game's development.
And from the comments I see, I wouldn't say we are bitching, I see constructive criticism from fans that want a game to succeed.

 

[momoman2]

You are always allowed to bitch about somthing you paid for. But im not paying, im on a pirate site stealing it.

As long as the people who paid for it are bitching, you can always join the party imo. And it's not like you're sending him personal messages or commenting on his patreon, ultimately these discussions on a forum lead to nothing, we are just discussing the game here, and currently there's a lot of negative things to discuss.

The problem is that the number of still and animated graphics for each scene is what hinders the development of the game because Kim focuses on the graphics in each scene. Imagine that this update has 6 scenes. I think that Kim considers the scene to be a single drawing, and this is really a problem because in this way, how many updates will we need over the years to get complete scenes for Hinata and the rest of the characters that were not even hinted at in the first place?

The game isn't graphically complex at all, it's actually a pretty simple but effective art style, the color palette is also simple with minimal shading. The problem is 100% technical side, him making less images per scene wouldn't speed up the process that much and it would absolutely not fix the real issues of the game

 

[noiuhfdhdh]

As long as the people who paid for it are bitching, you can always join the party imo. And it's not like you're sending him personal messages or commenting on his patreon, ultimately these discussions on a forum lead to nothing, we are just discussing the game here, and currently there's a lot of negative things to discuss.

The game isn't graphically complex at all, it's actually a pretty simple but effective art style, the color palette is also simple with minimal shading. The problem is 100% technical side, him making less images per scene wouldn't speed up the process that much and it would absolutely not fix the real issues of the game

Yes, I agree with you on this point. The problem that the game suffers from is the technical problems that must be solved in order for the game to continue, but I suggested lower fees in order for the game to progress quickly, reviving passion in the hearts of the players because Kim literally walks without plans in inserting scenes and continuing the story.

 

[noiuhfdhdh]

I think it's very clear that if people from different professions come to the same conclusion the problem is very real.
Yes, the art is gorgeous, the different angles and animations "the breast groping in 0.5" with the streaming screen, are very well made but are not one month's worth of work.
You get a programmer that knows what he is doing, and you focus on the art since you are an artist not a programmer.
And if the budget doesn't allow it I'm sorry, but one of the artists that are on the project now has to go.
The current production doesn't make sense, having more artists for this amount of content and not a dedicated programmer since it's literally half of the game's development.
And from the comments I see, I wouldn't say we are bitching, I see constructive criticism from fans that want a game to succeed.

I really hope Kim sees our comments and opinions about the game because there are literally beautiful opinions here from good people in the field of games. I think Kim will benefit from them.

 

[ArcherUwU]

full save or cheats?

 

[camgirlasdasd]

fast forwarding text is not working for me its grey somehow, and I played the game from the start to the end clicking and my gallery is empty like I didnt even play the ga me.

 

[Jeycii_]

On Patreon he started a poll where he asks the supporters to create less scenes for more characters or option B to keep the current pace. Most supporters are voting for B, more quality, same pace. But they dont freaking understand that the current pace is so slow, that the first real Hinata sex scene will happen in like 2 years of development... Im trying to keep pushing for option A for faster scenes for more content and progress, but i dont think i will be able to beat the majority...

 

[BAIMM]

There is such an obvious AI error in the live masturbation broadcast, or does the author think there are two vaginas?