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Burt

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Thanks for the report. This bug is fixed in the next version.

Highly recommend anyone interested in staying up with the game to join the Discord channel. It is our primary means of communicating about the game and where we gather feedback and opinions on new content!
Good point but:
While Discord is widely used, it has become known for its vulnerabilities, making it a less secure option for communication in some contexts. Due to this, I have made the decision to prohibit its use within my companies, particularly in those that specialize in internet and infrastructure security. The need to prioritize safety and minimize risks often outweighs the convenience of using popular platforms.
 
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Good point but:
While Discord is widely used, it has become known for its vulnerabilities, making it a less secure option for communication in some contexts. Due to this, I have made the decision to prohibit its use within my companies, particularly in those that specialize in internet and infrastructure security. The need to prioritize safety and minimize risks often outweighs the convenience of using popular platforms.
Another good point is that this is the site upon which the original game was posted (and subsequently where the mod was posted). If you wish for the game to only be updated via Discord, please mark this game as "abandoned" as it certainly fits the criteria seeing as the last game update was posted on the landing page on 2024-08-15.
I understand the need and desire for the team to want to move things to Discord but please keep in mind the only reason many of us are even aware of this work is because of this site. Myself, I created this account 6 years ago just to access Vren's page here and I would love to see the original mod continue to be updated on this site.
 

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Another good point is that this is the site upon which the original game was posted (and subsequently where the mod was posted). If you wish for the game to only be updated via Discord, please mark this game as "abandoned" as it certainly fits the criteria seeing as the last game update was posted on the landing page on 2024-08-15.
I understand the need and desire for the team to want to move things to Discord but please keep in mind the only reason many of us are even aware of this work is because of this site. Myself, I created this account 6 years ago just to access Vren's page here and I would love to see the original mod continue to be updated on this site.

IIRC the game is still posted here, but the person who compresses all the updates into a stable version does not have a good internet access, take a look here
 

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I'm also in the "try to avoid Discord" club, but the truth is the project has grown too big to keep all things in a single forum thread.

This thread is for the "official release" discussion, and Discord is for beta releases and mods discussion, IMO.

You can try entering the microverse of beta/ modded releases in the meanwhile. ibnarabi uses to post compiled ready-to-play dev versions now and then, but if you want to try it on your own:

You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.

Just in case you missed the Beta Version installation instructions posted in the OP. ;)
 

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Another good point is that this is the site upon which the original game was posted (and subsequently where the mod was posted). If you wish for the game to only be updated via Discord, please mark this game as "abandoned" as it certainly fits the criteria seeing as the last game update was posted on the landing page on 2024-08-15.
I understand the need and desire for the team to want to move things to Discord but please keep in mind the only reason many of us are even aware of this work is because of this site. Myself, I created this account 6 years ago just to access Vren's page here and I would love to see the original mod continue to be updated on this site.
Its not abandoned and will be posted here once the compressor or someone else learns how to compress it.

IIRC the game is still posted here, but the person who compresses all the updates into a stable version does not have a good internet access, take a look here
^^^^^^^^^This^^^^^^^^^^
 
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Gojii

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The problem with slow burn storyline is then some peoples will yap about grinding.I also added the incest opinion questline for Mom and Sis that improved their incest opinion from hate to love based on ur sex stat with them
No one is forcing you guys to rush the incest content with efficiency. You can stall it/hold off on it to your liking if you want a slow burn. That's the nice thing about the game. You can focus on other things and do that content bit by bit and pace it.

Not sure why some want to insist the game needs to slow walk content because others can't help but powergame and rush content via doing interactions with them every night and then complain its "too fast" afterwards because they want to play the gamelike its an MMO grinding dailies. :KEK:

The pacing is fine as-is, because the player has full control if they want to go full bore to getting that outcome or not.
 

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No one is forcing you guys to rush the incest content with efficiency. You can stall it/hold off on it to your liking if you want a slow burn. That's the nice thing about the game. You can focus on other things and do that content bit by bit and pace it.

Not sure why some want to insist the game needs to slow walk content because others can't help but powergame and rush content via doing interactions with them every night and then complain its "too fast" afterwards because they want to play the gamelike its an MMO grinding dailies. :KEK:

The pacing is fine as-is, because the player has full control if they want to go full bore to getting that outcome or not.
Could not have said it better, thank you.:)
 

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Another good point is that this is the site upon which the original game was posted (and subsequently where the mod was posted). If you wish for the game to only be updated via Discord, please mark this game as "abandoned" as it certainly fits the criteria seeing as the last game update was posted on the landing page on 2024-08-15.
I understand the need and desire for the team to want to move things to Discord but please keep in mind the only reason many of us are even aware of this work is because of this site. Myself, I created this account 6 years ago just to access Vren's page here and I would love to see the original mod continue to be updated on this site.
Whenever substantial changes have been made on the Dev build or mods I compile them and post the archive here. I'm not sure why it matters that they aren't on the front page. Anyone who cares should check the thread... you want the game marked as abandoned just because you're lazy? I updated the game 8 days ago.
 

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No one is forcing you guys to rush the incest content with efficiency. You can stall it/hold off on it to your liking if you want a slow burn. That's the nice thing about the game. You can focus on other things and do that content bit by bit and pace it.

Not sure why some want to insist the game needs to slow walk content because others can't help but powergame and rush content via doing interactions with them every night and then complain its "too fast" afterwards because they want to play the gamelike its an MMO grinding dailies. :KEK:

The pacing is fine as-is, because the player has full control if they want to go full bore to getting that outcome or not.
Yeah, this is a fair point. I wasn't making a complaint when I asked for more of a slow burn with the incest, it was more of a wish there were more steps involved I guess as that is the content that I am more interested in. Like you said it's great you can play how you want but in the end as it stands in base game it still only takes a couple of steps the get the family out of their comfort zones.
 

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I think the major concerns for the incest routes is people don't want the family dropping their panties after the first date (which happens more often than not). They want to "fight" for that incestuous tryst and break the mental barriers. I personally don't give an f about incest so I could care less but I like Starbucks' writing so I'm happy when she adds content to any girl :whistle:

EmperorM1006 I'd personally say this is one of the best Male protag driven mass impregnation/pregnant games on f95. The only comparable games that come to mind for me are Incubus City by Wape (some violence so be careful, but you can easily avoid it) and Haramase Simulator

Which does bring a concern to me regarding Deane9850's comment. One of the growing criticisms for Haramase Simulator during its later dev cycles was how the MC seemed to have multiple personality disorder. So I do think some sort of consistency across MC actions will ensure there isn't the same criticism (if that's important)
 

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Which does bring a concern to me regarding Deane9850's comment. One of the growing criticisms for Haramase Simulator during its later dev cycles was how the MC seemed to have multiple personality disorder. So I do think some sort of consistency across MC actions will ensure there isn't the same criticism (if that's important)
Which part in my post made MC seems to have personality problem? In fact, my events crazily split into various branch to ensure they cover all bases.
 

slobber

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Which part in my post made MC seems to have personality problem? In fact, my events crazily split into various branch to ensure they cover all bases.
The part where you mentioned "looking for event writers". I don't mean that the current mod has any consistency problems but I'm just worried there's risk where the protag's dialogue might bounce all over the place (Haramase Simulator was victim to this) if too many hands in the pot.
 

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Yeah, this is a fair point. I wasn't making a complaint when I asked for more of a slow burn with the incest, it was more of a wish there were more steps involved I guess as that is the content that I am more interested in. Like you said it's great you can play how you want but in the end as it stands in base game it still only takes a couple of steps the get the family out of their comfort zones.
I mostly agree with the "No one is forcing you guys" comment, but I think this is a very valid point too. I like it when major thresholds of corruption (especially incest corruption) are justified, when you read the dialogue or explanations of the character's behavior and think "that kinda makes sense, I can suspend my disbelief for that." They try to do something like that here for the mom and sister with the taboo break tasks, but those feel more like arbitrary fetch quests. "Clean up the house and I'll give you a handjob" is something a mom would say after she's already corrupted and become okay with the idea of being sexual with her son. It's not something that credibly explains why she would cross that threshold.

You know, for this game in particular, I feel like what would make the most sense is for the incest taboo breaks to unlock by giving them particular serums. For instance, if you want the naked or handjob taboo break, you might be tasked to feed them a serum that does +10 Obedience, +10 Sluttiness, and +10 Arousal. Basic tier 1 stuff. But then for vaginal, you'd have to concoct some very powerful serum that requires either getting to the highest tier of research, or having unlocked Nora's research serum effects and some really good nanobots. Or alternately, you could buy some super-secret illegal serum trait that covers all the requirements, but costs a shit-ton of money to obtain. Either way, you actually have to play the game and be getting shit done on the business side of things to effectively corrupt your family.

Of course, there should also be a pure obedience route where you can just order them to do it, but it should be a bit more difficult and risky. Like, being commanded to do sexual stuff they're not comfortable with should make them more unhappy, and then maybe they'll just completely refuse to engage with you at all (or not come home for a long time) if they're too unhappy. So you would need to figure out what you can command them to do that they secretly want to do, so it makes them more happy.

God, I wish I had programming skills.
 

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Whenever substantial changes have been made on the Dev build or mods I compile them and post the archive here. I'm not sure why it matters that they aren't on the front page. Anyone who cares should check the thread... you want the game marked as abandoned just because you're lazy? I updated the game 8 days ago.
If you want to just PM me and I will make sure the update gets posted to the OP.

You could also PM a mod and get uploaders tag and update the OP yourself.

ADD: I did not get this one posted because it says "all the working mods", if this is the dev's build with the built in cheat mod only then I can get it posted to the OP but if it has all the other working mods added to it then it can be listed on the OP but not as the main download.
Here is the latest Dev build with all the working mods, updated as of ten minutes ago :cool:
(same build name as the old one from March 4)

Mega

 
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Whenever substantial changes have been made on the Dev build or mods I compile them and post the archive here. I'm not sure why it matters that they aren't on the front page. Anyone who cares should check the thread... you want the game marked as abandoned just because you're lazy? I updated the game 8 days ago.
You need not be rude, but seeing that you are invites a similar response.

I love how because I am referring to the game mod itself and not the idiocy that has been posted in here makes me lazy.
Nothing lazy about wanting to have a post of the actual game content, with the storyline and characters more rounded and complete. I am uninterested in the game breaking and poorly written garbage that is foisted off as being LR2R.
 
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I think writing a well crafted incest story is pretty tough though and there are definitely some purists that like playing the serum-less playthrough (which is pretty fun in its own right) so having a difficult but non serum path would be awesome too. Definitely a lot of space for possibilities! But that's why I'm so biased towards this game. Most games I see a set potential. This one is literally limitless.
 

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I mostly agree with the "No one is forcing you guys" comment, but I think this is a very valid point too. I like it when major thresholds of corruption (especially incest corruption) are justified, when you read the dialogue or explanations of the character's behavior and think "that kinda makes sense, I can suspend my disbelief for that." They try to do something like that here for the mom and sister with the taboo break tasks, but those feel more like arbitrary fetch quests. "Clean up the house and I'll give you a handjob" is something a mom would say after she's already corrupted and become okay with the idea of being sexual with her son. It's not something that credibly explains why she would cross that threshold.

You know, for this game in particular, I feel like what would make the most sense is for the incest taboo breaks to unlock by giving them particular serums. For instance, if you want the naked or handjob taboo break, you might be tasked to feed them a serum that does +10 Obedience, +10 Sluttiness, and +10 Arousal. Basic tier 1 stuff. But then for vaginal, you'd have to concoct some very powerful serum that requires either getting to the highest tier of research, or having unlocked Nora's research serum effects and some really good nanobots. Or alternately, you could buy some super-secret illegal serum trait that covers all the requirements, but costs a shit-ton of money to obtain. Either way, you actually have to play the game and be getting shit done on the business side of things to effectively corrupt your family.

Of course, there should also be a pure obedience route where you can just order them to do it, but it should be a bit more difficult and risky. Like, being commanded to do sexual stuff they're not comfortable with should make them more unhappy, and then maybe they'll just completely refuse to engage with you at all (or not come home for a long time) if they're too unhappy. So you would need to figure out what you can command them to do that they secretly want to do, so it makes them more happy.

God, I wish I had programming skills.
The thing is the game has always been focused around all the things involving the lab/etc. The family/incest has largely been an "Also, this too" content, so its not about pacing, but you're asking for more focus/time to be put on part of the game that has always been (unfortunately for those who like incest) effectively an afterthought after the initial updates that included it back in the day. Depth, not pacing is what I think you guys are asking for more than anything.

But I don't think the family would be any more resistant to it than random strangers that have a husband and kids though, do you? It would then for the sake of "balance" necessitate EVERYONE being more resistant to the player, which would again result in pacing, and yes... mean "grinding" even for randoms who aren't immediately predisposed to MC's advances (due to policies you set, which by the time you get that far, wouldn't you have made the mom/sister receptive to your advances anyhow?).

However, lets be real a bit when we're dealing with literal mind control/alteration drugs and hypnosis/etc I think a little bit of detaching from reality is needed. :LUL: I DO think it'd be fine to expand on more scenes during the process though as they aren't auto-gen characters you recruit to the company. In the end this game is wish-fulfillment than a realistic office sim.
 
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