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Yeah, the problem is that they were added as an afterthought so we* had to find ways to make 'em viable by just mixing and matching, and being able to stretch/shrink/flip the existing poses. Under the cirumstances, I think it wasn't a half-bad job. Like most things in the game, it could definitely have been done way better tho.


*by which I mean Starbuck - pretty sure she's the one who made 'em work. Don't quote me on that. Memory like Swiss cheese, that's me.




Have you gone back to Nora to work on any of her other traits after the first one she gives you (the one that leads to unlocking tier 2)?
Yeah I did the reports on all the NPCs to get the unique traits as well. Are you confused with the rich girl that needs to be tutored? I think her name is Iris and she only shows up when I confront the boss of Jennifer's company.

edit: I just realized the two are sisters. I don't see Iris anywhere at the house, only Emily.
 
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Oh well and just to comment on the game / mod



TBH much of the writing and interdependencies leave much to be desired.

For example, if you have a partner being all-submissive and doing whatever you want, but 0 sluttiness, love or whatever. You wouldn't expect them to talk like a pornstar whore during sex?


Everything around the sister/mother content is so weird. Both are your girlfriend / harem, you have sex at home with the other being present. Yet they act like they're having sex on the street with strangers watching.

"They could recognize us! What would mom say!" - yeah she's right there, talking to us...


The artificial pacing of the story characters is annoying and grindy. Like the Aunt is already full love / slut mode, but you need to grind through her events for weeks or months just to get more than a blowjob. Not to mention the repeated "break taboo six more times" with the mother / sister if you don't remove the incest opinion through trance.


I also played the original game, never had issues working the lab without cheating, researching and producing drugs. But somehow it seems like an infinite grind just to discover something better than the 1-trait basic stuff.
 

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Yeah I did the reports on all the NPCs to get the unique traits as well. Are you confused with the rich girl that needs to be tutored? I think her name is Iris and she only shows up when I confront the boss of Jennifer's company.

edit: I just realized the two are sisters. I don't see Iris anywhere at the house, only Emily.
Iris doesn't show up when confronting the boss, that is Emily. You meet Iris at the taboo-breaking event to buy your sister an iphone. Iris also has her own place and doesn't live with the rest of her family.
 

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The artificial pacing of the story characters is annoying and grindy. Like the Aunt is already full love / slut mode, but you need to grind through her events for weeks or months just to get more than a blowjob. Not to mention the repeated "break taboo six more times" with the mother / sister if you don't remove the incest opinion through trance.


I also played the original game, never had issues working the lab without cheating, researching and producing drugs. But somehow it seems like an infinite grind just to discover something better than the 1-trait basic stuff.
There are missions that they give you after breaking the taboo the first time. Completing them unlocks the taboos for good and returns X-amount of sluttiness. Only the vaginal ones require the family member to like/love incest.

I have played the beginning enough times to know it is realitively easy to the tier 1 (you start at tier 0) in the first week without cheating. Tier 2 and Tier 3 take time but by then you should have a decent company which for the most part would just be automating. All you need to do each week is make sure you have a serum(s) that meet the criteria for your contracts and have them be made.

Assuming you haven't over extended your resources contracts should cover your company. If not have a general product and sell it on the market only once in a week. If you have enough marketing then it should recover it's full price before a week is out.
 
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Iris doesn't show up when confronting the boss, that is Emily. You meet Iris at the taboo-breaking event to buy your sister an iphone. Iris also has her own place and doesn't live with the rest of her family.
well on my game one of the sisters shows up after i complete Nora’s research and the other shows up during the boss confrontation. I may have messed up the event sequence by using cheats. How do I get the iPhone scene? Outside of seeing my sister naked and helping take photos of her, I haven’t messed with her sexually. Does she have to be still in school since I already told her to drop out and join the company.
 

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This comment keeps coming back into my head, and now I'm worried about doing anything with Stephanie at all. Can you be more specific about what you can or can't do with Stephanie before Ellie shows up (if you don't want to lock out Ellie's events)?
To tell you the truth, I'm not sure. I've been slowly progressing through a new playthrough basically ignoring Stephanie until Ellie shows up, and I just haven't progressed enough through the serums. The discord didn't mention the specific tie between Ellie and Stephanie when I went digging last time. I might be able to figure it out once I've unlocked Ellie and let you know.
 

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Iris doesn't show up when confronting the boss, that is Emily. You meet Iris at the taboo-breaking event to buy your sister an iphone. Iris also has her own place and doesn't live with the rest of her family.
Not true.

Iris shows up for both confronting mom's boss (which you can take her out for coffee afterwards and get her number) and buying phone for Lily's event (if you wait in queue, you'll meet her and then get her phone number).

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Emily shows up in the University after you've unlock it (leading to tutoring event and eventually unlocking her home and Christina).
 

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Not true.

Iris shows up for both confronting mom's boss (which you can take her out for coffee afterwards and get her number) and buying phone for Lily's event (if you wait in queue, you'll meet her and then get her phone number).

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Emily shows up in the University after you've unlock it (leading to tutoring event and eventually unlocking her home and Christina).
You wouldn't happen to know if meeting Iris in mom's office has any effect on Lilly's phone quest, would you?
Does it mess things up if you've already met? Does it change the dialogue?
Inquiring minds want to not break any questlines
 
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You wouldn't happen to know if meeting Iris in mom's office has any effect on Lilly's phone quest, would you?
Does it mess things up if you've already met? Does it change the dialogue?
Inquiring minds want to not break any questlines
can't confirm in the latest update, but in v. 2023.09 i had both events pop and theres no mention of any previous meetings, so they seem like separate, and won't affect anything at all.
 

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You wouldn't happen to know if meeting Iris in mom's office has any effect on Lilly's phone quest, would you?
I'm guessing that meeting Iris in Mom's office was put in so that Iris wouldn't be completely locked out of the game if you don't buy Lily a phone as the taboo break. Although, you could also easily miss that event if you hire Mom instead of doing the NTR stuff. But either way, it doesn't look like Iris has any further events or story elements beyond the introduction.
 
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Couples of questions:
1. Why cant I make Aunt and Cousin girlfriend/ harem?
2. Why aunt wont work for me at my company after completing CDA (correct term?) ?
3. How do I start city laws? I have met Police Chief and City Administrator (Penelope Jung). I already have Jung wearing slutty skimpy outfit that barely covers her.
 

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There is so much obscure stuff.
Like convincing the mother to quit her job.

One of the primary options requires her to hate working + HR work. If she fulfils that, you only get the secondary option to hire her for the company - which is identical to choosing that primary option in the first place.

Another secondary option is to make her your personal secretary, which sounds nice and lewd. But that only works if she is a secretary already, which is not explained anywhere.
 
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There is so much obscure stuff.
Like convincing the mother to quit her job.

One of the primary options requires her to hate working + HR work. If she fulfils that, you only get the secondary option to hire her for the company - which is identical to choosing that primary option in the first place.

Another secondary option is to make her your personal secretary, which sounds nice and lewd. But that only works if she is a secretary already, which is not explained anywhere.
you wouldn’t happen to know how to even hire her as a secretary? She just shows up to the office once a week as my accountant. I found a way you can hire her like a standard NPC but first hiring her as a stripper if you bought the strip club and then the option to hire her as a standard employee of the company pops up. You can then tell her to quit and work for your company (you can rehire her as a part time stripper afterwards). Hiring her as a personal secretary sounds hot and rather have her do that.
 

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There is so much obscure stuff.
Like convincing the mother to quit her job.

One of the primary options requires her to hate working + HR work. If she fulfils that, you only get the secondary option to hire her for the company - which is identical to choosing that primary option in the first place.

Another secondary option is to make her your personal secretary, which sounds nice and lewd. But that only works if she is a secretary already, which is not explained anywhere.
Secretary job is via helping her get a "promotion" with her current company.

First event triggers with her asking for help with the interview. You tell her to take advantage of her womanly charms and have her dress a little revealing.

Secondary event happens after the interview where she will have a 1 on 1 interview. Either have her be friendly or a slut during the interview and she should get the "promotion". For this part you can not give advice right away check with her daily for when the option of prep for interview is avalible.

For hiring her yourself there are multiple ways to do so. Get love high enough and she will leave to spend more time with you. High enough obedience can also do so. You mentioned the hatred of the job option and there is the option of hiring her when she is your girlfriend. Like all NPCs you can only hire them from their work location.
 
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Okay guys regarding Iris, I managed to trigger the phone quest because I didn’t even pursue any of Lily’s taboo and the game threats each encounter as meeting her for the first time BUT the phone encounter is the only way to get her to spawn into the game as an NPC that can be interacted with. If she is only met during the mom event, she just shows up on your phone and that’s it.

As for anyone who was wondering (like me), the only NTR stuff I found for Jennifer is with high stats, she might mention she doesn’t get any attention from from other men. You are given the choices of telling her to “go commando”, make a move on her, or let it go. If you choose the commando option, she texts you afterwards that she hooked up with coworker and sends you a picture of her ass covered in cum. Outside of the added NTR night events; there is not other explicit events that I have seen for both Lily and Jennifer. I even made sure the mom has maxed out slutty stats and even kept her dosed up with my fully upgraded pregnancy/slut serums.

With the fact that other NPCs can get pregnant from their own partners (at least I think so), I’m surprised two of biggest main characters in the game doesn’t have their own non-incest partners (NTR or otherwise). So one possible scenario is if you don’t actively pursue them; both Lily and Jennifer can get their own partners that they date. Lily can start the game already dating a classmate in college that you can get her to cheat on or breakup with, and Jennifer can end up dating a coworker right after the start of the game that lead to by helping her get the work promotion (or you can prevent by failing to help her or hiring her to your company) that you can get her to cheat on with you as well. The developers can still reuse the nighttime NTR events where you can watch them and depending on their taboo and sluttiness scores; they can yell at your for watching or let you join like in the current Jennifer NTR event.
 
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Secretary job is via helping her get a "promotion" with her current company.

First event triggers with her asking for help with the interview. You tell her to take advantage of her womanly charms and have her dress a little revealing.

Secondary event happens after the interview where she will have a 1 on 1 interview. Either have her be friendly or a slut during the interview and she should get the "promotion". For this part you can not give advice right away check with her daily for when the option of prep for interview is avalible.

For hiring her yourself there are multiple ways to do so. Get love high enough and she will leave to spend more time with you. High enough obedience can also do so. You mentioned the hatred of the job option and there is the option of hiring her when she is your girlfriend. Like all NPCs you can only hire them from their work location.
Oh you were talking about the mom the whole time. I think the person you were originally replying to asked about the aunt and cousin. It got me confused as well since I had thought you said you can hire the aunt as a personal secretary as well. The mom being a personal secretary as kinda a let down, I sort expected more events were she comes in occasionally like Sarah for sex events but the only event I saw with her is that she comes in and says there are too many women in the company and she doesn’t want them to “temp you” and then it leads to a sex event and it only happens to me once on every play through where I get her to quit her original secretary position. The rest of the time she acts like another HR staff member.
 

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Like all NPCs you can only hire them from their work location.
Is that new? In 2023.9, I hired mom and sister at home, and I remember that the strippers I tried to hire specifically said that their work location was the one place they wouldn't talk about coming to work for me (which makes a lot more sense, in my opinion).
 
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Couples of questions:
1. Why cant I make Aunt and Cousin girlfriend/ harem?
2. Why aunt wont work for me at my company after completing CDA (correct term?) ?
3. How do I start city laws? I have met Police Chief and City Administrator (Penelope Jung). I already have Jung wearing slutty skimpy outfit that barely covers her.
1. you can make them a part of the harem only after you impregnate them the for first time.

2. I just posted it above but she will show up to your company once a week but I managed to get her to come work for me by first employing her to be a stripper at the strip club you can buy then the option to hire her as a company employee appears. You can then click on that and hire her like a normal NPC (in my game she wanted double her original pay), and then you can rehire her as a part-time stripper afterwards. I think you are not supposed to do that because she will still show up in your office on Tuesdays for her original finance job while working at whatever position you put her in at the company so she literally has THREE jobs in the game haha.

3. you basically have to already make the city administrator slutty enough to give her the command to wear your custom outfit. Then you need to find her in the game world (it might trigger during her raids of your company but I’m not sure) and she will say that she wants to wear skimpier outfits has laws against it but she wants you to talk to the police chief about it. There isn’t anything to talk to the police chief about yet but you just need to raise her stats enough that the option to buy the upgrades is active on your computer. Also note that this upgrade doesn’t make NPCs in the city magically just walk around naked; it is mostly for you to let your employees walk about the company naked if you set your uniforms up for that (in my case: naked with the “breed me collar”.

Good luck!
 
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Is that new? In 2023.9, I hired mom and sister at home, and I remember that the strippers I tried to hire specifically said that their work location was the one place they wouldn't talk about coming to work for me (which makes a lot more sense, in my opinion).
It is that way in the development branch and I believe the newest release version also has that change.
 
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