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What news you expect to hear about LIA when Dark works on finishing part 2 LLS 0.3 ????
It's a game where all the women cheat their boyfriends/husbands
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That does not make for the "Netorare" tag, that's just "cheating". Netorare is used ONLY when the MC is cheated or, more broadly, if his/her love interest is taken away from another character. So is the MC cheated here, or it's just a misused tag and there is effectively no netorare at all?
Many people don't play (filter out) games with netorare, if the tag is used improperly it prevents people from discovering this game.
You probably know already this is something common here in games where female MC goes around fucking with everyone but their boyfriends (or they do it sometimes at the start of the game), even on DLSite, so there's no use in discussing it here. You will hardly find games with Female MC and reverse NTR where she is getting cucked, 99% of the time it's just a excuse added in the game so she can fuck 3 dudes without feeling guilty.
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One of the co workers of the husband corrupts FMC until she gives up and they fuck and she enjoys it, later she fucks everyone, but yeah it´s not like the REAL NTR (cuckolding) because the husband doesn´t want it and doesn´t enjoy it, he´s a "cuck" because everyone is fucking his wife and he doesn´t know it, it´s that kind of ntr
He is the real alpha and can stay virgin this way. He is tricking everybody to lose their virginity! Bot no one understands it!
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When the MC is cheating is NEVER netorare according to the rules applied on this web site. If MC is cheating (but not cheated) is called NETORI, or simply "cheating" tag. Netori and Netorare are now two different tags, there is no more the ambiguous NTR, you are making a big confusion in this thread. People usually filter out games where MC gets cheated because they don't like netorare. But if any cheating is labelled as netorare, then this VN gets wrongly filtered out. It's like tagging "guro" if in the VN someone eats an hamburger, it makes no sense (unless you're vegan
).From what I understand this VN is totally safe for people who don't want netorare. Cheating or Netori are a totally different scenario.
Current definition for F95 zone:
Netorare [Designed to cause jealousy by having the romantic interest involved with someone other than the MC.]
Future tags definition:
| netorare | ✏ | A love interest has sexual contact with someone else without the approval of the protagonist, either voluntarily or from some form of coercion (eg, drugs, mind control, blackmail, rape). If the later, add the relevant coercion tag too |
| netori | ✨ | The protagonist has sexual contact with another character's love interest or partner, without the approval of said character |
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there is still a missing tag about NTR... it is Netorase that should be something likeWhen the MC is cheating is NEVER netorare according to the rules applied on this web site. If MC is cheating (but not cheated) is called NETORI, or simply "cheating" tag. Netori and Netorare are now two different tags, there is no more the ambiguous NTR, you are making a big confusion in this thread. People usually filter out games where MC gets cheated because they don't like netorare. But if any cheating is labelled as netorare, then this VN gets wrongly filtered out. It's like tagging "guro" if in the VN someone eats an hamburger, it makes no sense (unless you're vegan
From what I understand this VN is totally safe for people who don't want netorare. Cheating or Netori are a totally different scenario.
Current definition for F95 zone:
Netorare [Designed to cause jealousy by having the romantic interest involved with someone other than the MC.]
Future tags definition:
netorare ✏ A love interest has sexual contact with someone else without the approval of the protagonist, either voluntarily or from some form of coercion (eg, drugs, mind control, blackmail, rape). If the later, add the relevant coercion tag too
netori ✨ The protagonist has sexual contact with another character's love interest or partner, without the approval of said character
"The protagonist gives consent to his LI (e.g., his wife) and suggests that she can have sexual contact/affair with other characters because it turns him on."
The current definition in F95 is good but the perfect one should be:
NTR is Designed to cause jealousy in the reader of the story and can be without or with the consent of the MC"
Actually in Japanese adult movies NTR is also applied when the protagonist is a female but has a husband or official boyfriend whom she makes cuckold with or without the consent of the LI.
In any case "Cuckold" should be also added in the tags list
Just my 2 cents
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We must follow only the rules of this web site otherwise it's a mess. Don't use NTR because it can mean anything: netori, netorare, netorase, netoraru, netororo, netoturi (being cucked by a giant squid).
Well, I just invented some of them :-D
"jealousy in the reader" is something so subjective it could provoke endless discussions, we just need to keep it simple.
In adult movies there is no MC as in a VN, where you control the choice of that character, so it's a different product, netorare in that case means there is cucking in the plot.
99% of people that dislike NTR don't want it happening against the MC that they control, they are usually fine to "give netorare" to other characters. And that's the thing that is happening in this VN, the MC cheats her husband, who is cucked. Nobody cares about him, he's not the MC.
Tagging is important because applying a wrong tag could mean excluding potential players.
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I follow the rules of this web site but the description of the TAGS are not rules...
and neither you nor I are breaking them because the rules about behavior during discussions have nothing to do with misdefining tags
I only said that some words are missing to improve the definition of netorare that is enough to cover all the NTR games by adding "WITH OR WITHOUT the consent of the MC
respecting the opinions of others is the main rule in all forums...which are precisely made for discussion by avoiding insulting people who disagree
but here we are talking about a Japanese termina and in this site are hosted many game developers of all the nationality including Japanese (Many Japanese games are with female MC and NTR tag)
Tags must be the same in all website of the world.
Making a wrong or incomplete definition of the NTR tags to be more simple by omitting a part of the sense of a complicate term is not a simplification
Jealousy in the player (or reader) is not subjective and it is already the cause of endless discussion in all forums about NTR
but the definition of a tag must be correct just to avoid endless discussion about them
For me the best would do not add definition about tags in a game forum bc there are many wikipedia that explain them better
NTR do not require opinable definition because is already used in all entertainment media all over the world--
everyone reads Japanese Manga Comics since '70 '80 and more
In adult movies JAV there is a protagonist/MC and many with female protagonist exactly like in many VN that do not have choices... the plus of a game with choices is the interactivity that allow the player to follow different paths and if the dev want excluding NTR route.
all the choices in interactive games are written by the author and there are gams with unavoidable NTR
99%??? are you sure?.. I know NTR games with a lot of supporters and vanilla games with less supporters
but we was talking about definitions of the tag .
The problem is just a web site cannot be out of the rules of the entertainment world
NTR is a Japanese therm ... so if we add here NETORI in the site must add also NETORASE and the correct definition... the problem is that many unavoidable NTR games comes with 3 different ntr routes
1st is netori 2nd is netorare 3rd is netorase ... so this is not a simplification at all!!
the truth is that there are boring and predictable stories and there are interesting stories. In adult games having a believable antagonist trying to fuck the protagonist's girlfriend makes the plot much more interesting
I agree but if the definition of the TAG is incomplete this also can cause that potential players that do not like netorase stories will download a NTR game thinking that there are not cuckold husband or boyfriend.. then they found out that is not for them
BC in NTR there are also husbands that want to share their wives but in this case the husband is the LI and is not the classic cuckold and he has also a big cock.
Jealousy on the player is the real meaning of NTR it is focused upon the player/audience/reader it is an emotional state that makes the story intriguing and allows the husband to have relations with other women without flaunting ownership of his woman.. this makes viewers who maybe even once thought of doing the same and didn't have the courage.. these makes them jealous.
A good relationship with a women does not mean that the wife is property of the husband
A good love relationship is one in which both parties are happy when the other party is happy, even if that involves having sex with others (of course, not all relationships are the same, but often after years they become monotonous).
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if the game is about a married or engaged woman and she is the protagonist and she fucks with other character this is also netorare cb her husband/boyfriend (main LI with the MC) is a loser cuck!
there are examples.. like The Office Wife in this web site
there are examples.. like The Office Wife in this web site
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Omg this paragraph guy has now invaded laura's thread
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Yes! Why not?Omg this paragraph guy has now invaded laura's thread
Also all Laura games are Female MC games and tagged as netorare-- so i think the paragraph is in topic! (and in the definition of this site Netorare is only for Male MC!!!)
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yes we need more in-game anal scenes in next possible update, please