VN Ren'Py Law School [S2 Ep.4 v1] [MisterMaya]

[OsirisHeir._]

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[-Kuro-]

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The true identity of Miss E.. thats a big spoiler.. for those who are starting the game..

 

[Chillout1984]

The true identity of Miss E.. thats a big spoiler.. for those who are starting the game..

But that has been revealed about 6 months ago though (at least for Steam players, don't know how much earlier, if at all, Patreon members have found out about this). 6 months is more than long enough to not use the spoiler tag anymore.

Heck, there are quite a few spoilers shown here without issues after only about a week or so.

 

[-Kuro-]

But that has been revealed about 6 months ago though (at least for Steam players, don't know how much earlier, if at all, Patreon members have found out about this). 6 months is more than long enough to not use the spoiler tag anymore.

Heck, there are quite a few spoilers shown here without issues after only about a week or so.

fair enough XD spilers for free in this forum XD

 

[OsirisHeir._]

The true identity of Miss E.. thats a big spoiler.. for those who are starting the game..

If Season 1 of Law School were on a separate thread, sure. But since this thread has been updated to Season 2 and the path builder includes almost everything, when downloading it. The Majority of people assume they already played S1.

 

[glaslow]

fair enough XD spilers for free in this forum XD

Why would you read through current content in a forum for a game you haven't played and expect no spoilers?

 

[-Kuro-]

Why would you read through current content in a forum for a game you haven't played and expect no spoilers?

i did play it.. over 9 times ( each available route ) but there are people starting now.. and that info is a mayor spoiler.. but as Chillout1984 said.. its been 6 months since that info came out.. so nothing to complain.

 

[cxx]

The update literally just came out and he already made another 500 renders?! Fucking madman.

why not? if wants to make several updates per year then by all means.

 

[-Kuro-]

why not? if wants to make several updates per year then by all means.

i would say 1 each 4 months would be hellish fast already.. but taking we had just have an update.. and he is on a sweet track to have another ready for next mont or couple months.. he is fucking fast.
MisterMaya you rock!!!

and thats profesional opinion ( im graphic designer)

 

[glaslow]

i did play it.. over 9 times ( each available route ) but there are people starting now.. and that info is a mayor spoiler.. but as Chillout1984 said.. its been 6 months since that info came out.. so nothing to complain.

Wasn't really calling you out in particular. Just saying in general if somebody hasn't played the game or the new update and they are reading through stuff in a forum discussing the game, they should expect to see spoilers. It should go without saying. I avoided the Eternum forum cause I knew it would be full of .9 spoilers and I avoided this one for the same reason when Ep4 dropped.

 

[BadmanBaxter]

Wasn't really calling you out in particular. Just saying in general if somebody hasn't played the game or the new update and they are reading through stuff in a forum discussing the game, they should expect to see spoilers. It should go without saying. I avoided the Eternum forum cause I knew it would be full of .9 spoilers and I avoided this one for the same reason when Ep4 dropped.

Yep. When the big step dropped a new update earlier this month I avoided the forum until I got to play it.

 

[xMatth3w]

why not? if wants to make several updates per year then by all means.

I didn't mean that as a negative thing, it's absolutely astonishing how quick he's working.
Just don't burn yourself out MisterMaya.

 

[louisamay]

And seeing as how I can't review this work of art (tech stoppage on stars!) -- I am hereby according this VN a 5-star review.
Yeah, I have issues with various, niggling things - but really, this is one of the VN's that others, IMHO, should strive for.
1 -- its erotic scenes are actually worked up, so I can actually enjoy a reason for MC and xLI to wakawaka.
2 -- There are long-term plot points that are handled, IMO, well -- and provide extra motivation for the reader to continue, and happily.
3 - The choices, even though sometimes I feel "hey, NO, that's not where I want to go" -- are relatively well-placed, and sometimes even scare me about what might happen (see Elsa!)
4 - I don't know where it's going, and that's GOOD (but still anxiety-producing; I'm more like Olive in that way...)

HAREM! I don't want to part with ANY of these lovely women! (And I would lose the short 4th-wall and anime cartoon stuff -- it exudes lack of confidence in what you have, which is golden). Thank you for making this. It is a joy.

 

[Brosssky]

Hi everyone, I’ve been diving deep into Elsa’s route and I’ve noticed a very interesting moral paradox that I’d like to discuss.


Technically, the game labels Elsa’s route as "Altruistic," likely because the MC’s ultimate goal is to "save" her from her abusive and manipulative husband. However, looking at the actual mechanics and interactions, I’ve started to wonder: Is this path actually Selfish (Egoistic) disguised as Altruistic?


Here are a few points I’ve noted:

1. The Violation of Boundaries: In key scenes, when Elsa is panicking and pleading for the MC to let her go (saying things like "Please, I need to go") out of fear for her career and safety, the MC often ignores her pleas. By grabbing her hand or forcing a kiss, the MC is prioritizing his own desire for a romantic breakthrough over Elsa's immediate safety and boundaries.
2. The Risks Involved: The MC is well aware that Elsa’s husband is looking for any evidence of infidelity to destroy her career. By being aggressive in public spaces, the MC puts Elsa at a massive risk. A purely altruistic person would arguably back off to protect her, but the game penalizes this "Respectful" choice by locking the player out of the romance path.
3. The Hero Complex: It feels like the developer is forcing us to be "Selfish" to get the "Good Ending." To stay on her route, we have to ignore her "No" and force the romance. It’s as if the game says: "You know what's better for her than she does." This isn't liberation; it’s a different form of dominance.
4. The Illusion of Choice: If you choose to be truly altruistic and respect her decision, the romance effectively ends (Variable: elsa_path_friend = True). This suggests that in this game's universe, you can't have Elsa without being somewhat of an egoist.

My Conclusion:

Elsa's path feels like "Justified Egoism." We call it altruistic because we hate her husband, but the MC’s methods are actually quite selfish because they prioritize the MC's "collection" of romantic moments over Elsa’s stated wishes and professional security.


What do you guys think? Is the MC a savior, or just a more "charming" version of the control Elsa is trying to escape from?

 

[Chillout1984]

Hi everyone, I’ve been diving deep into Elsa’s route and I’ve noticed a very interesting moral paradox that I’d like to discuss.


Technically, the game labels Elsa’s route as "Altruistic," likely because the MC’s ultimate goal is to "save" her from her abusive and manipulative husband. However, looking at the actual mechanics and interactions, I’ve started to wonder: Is this path actually Selfish (Egoistic) disguised as Altruistic?


Here are a few points I’ve noted:

1. The Violation of Boundaries: In key scenes, when Elsa is panicking and pleading for the MC to let her go (saying things like "Please, I need to go") out of fear for her career and safety, the MC often ignores her pleas. By grabbing her hand or forcing a kiss, the MC is prioritizing his own desire for a romantic breakthrough over Elsa's immediate safety and boundaries.
2. The Risks Involved: The MC is well aware that Elsa’s husband is looking for any evidence of infidelity to destroy her career. By being aggressive in public spaces, the MC puts Elsa at a massive risk. A purely altruistic person would arguably back off to protect her, but the game penalizes this "Respectful" choice by locking the player out of the romance path.
3. The Hero Complex: It feels like the developer is forcing us to be "Selfish" to get the "Good Ending." To stay on her route, we have to ignore her "No" and force the romance. It’s as if the game says: "You know what's better for her than she does." This isn't liberation; it’s a different form of dominance.
4. The Illusion of Choice: If you choose to be truly altruistic and respect her decision, the romance effectively ends (Variable: elsa_path_friend = True). This suggests that in this game's universe, you can't have Elsa without being somewhat of an egoist.

My Conclusion:

Elsa's path feels like "Justified Egoism." We call it altruistic because we hate her husband, but the MC’s methods are actually quite selfish because they prioritize the MC's "collection" of romantic moments over Elsa’s stated wishes and professional security.


What do you guys think? Is the MC a savior, or just a more "charming" version of the control Elsa is trying to escape from?

Yeah, imo MC definitely acts like a selfish prick on her route, especially in episode 4. From what I've read here, that is sort of a common complaint for a LI that needs MC to be on the altruistic personality route. Imo with what we know now it would make more sense for her to want a neutral MC than altruistic MC.

 

[glaslow]

Hi everyone, I’ve been diving deep into Elsa’s route and I’ve noticed a very interesting moral paradox that I’d like to discuss.


Technically, the game labels Elsa’s route as "Altruistic," likely because the MC’s ultimate goal is to "save" her from her abusive and manipulative husband. However, looking at the actual mechanics and interactions, I’ve started to wonder: Is this path actually Selfish (Egoistic) disguised as Altruistic?


Here are a few points I’ve noted:

1. The Violation of Boundaries: In key scenes, when Elsa is panicking and pleading for the MC to let her go (saying things like "Please, I need to go") out of fear for her career and safety, the MC often ignores her pleas. By grabbing her hand or forcing a kiss, the MC is prioritizing his own desire for a romantic breakthrough over Elsa's immediate safety and boundaries.
2. The Risks Involved: The MC is well aware that Elsa’s husband is looking for any evidence of infidelity to destroy her career. By being aggressive in public spaces, the MC puts Elsa at a massive risk. A purely altruistic person would arguably back off to protect her, but the game penalizes this "Respectful" choice by locking the player out of the romance path.
3. The Hero Complex: It feels like the developer is forcing us to be "Selfish" to get the "Good Ending." To stay on her route, we have to ignore her "No" and force the romance. It’s as if the game says: "You know what's better for her than she does." This isn't liberation; it’s a different form of dominance.
4. The Illusion of Choice: If you choose to be truly altruistic and respect her decision, the romance effectively ends (Variable: elsa_path_friend = True). This suggests that in this game's universe, you can't have Elsa without being somewhat of an egoist.

My Conclusion:

Elsa's path feels like "Justified Egoism." We call it altruistic because we hate her husband, but the MC’s methods are actually quite selfish because they prioritize the MC's "collection" of romantic moments over Elsa’s stated wishes and professional security.


What do you guys think? Is the MC a savior, or just a more "charming" version of the control Elsa is trying to escape from?

Dude thank you this is what I have been saying. A bunch of my previous posts have been about this. Gold Star. It is what has always bothered me about Elsa.

 

[OsirisHeir._]

Dude thank you this is what I have been saying. A bunch of my previous posts have been about this. Gold Star. It is what has always bothered me about Elsa.

You had a whole dissertation for ppl to review lol

 

[Brosssky]

Yeah, imo MC definitely acts like a selfish prick on her route, especially in episode 4. From what I've read here, that is sort of a common complaint for a LI that needs MC to be on the altruistic personality route. Imo with what we know now it would make more sense for her to want a neutral MC than altruistic MC.

I totally agree that a Neutral or selfish MC would make much more sense for her route. With a Neutral or selfish MC, the aggressiveness wouldn't feel so hypocritical. Right now, the game forces you to be a 'selfish prick' to keep the romance alive, but then tries to pat you on the back by calling it altruism.
It’s almost like the developer wanted to give us a 'Dark Romance' vibe but was too afraid to take away the 'Good Guy' label from the MC.
Glad to see I’m not the only one who felt that 'altruistic' tag was just a cover!"

 

[Justaphase]

Yeah, imo MC definitely acts like a selfish prick on her route, especially in episode 4. From what I've read here, that is sort of a common complaint for a LI that needs MC to be on the altruistic personality route. Imo with what we know now it would make more sense for her to want a neutral MC than altruistic MC.

Honestly I would have straight up swapped Elsa to selfish and Samara to altruistic. This may not make sense when you first hear it but if you think about it and how both of their paths currently play out. The MC has to pretty much ignore Elsa's initial decision to end things between them and is quite pushy with it, he's risking at least her job because of his desires. Does that sound altruistic?
With Samara he is impressing her by being there for Taylor and also comforting her at the same time. Does that sound like a selfish MC?

 

[Antherak]

She claims the reason why she was in the room with him is unrelated but she promised to keep the reason a secret. And at this point I can't imagine a secret from a random friend that is worth destroying the relationship to my twin sister. Seriously, this sounds so stupid. Just explain the situation

I hate those cheap "secrets" excuses. It's the same BS with Samara and Vicky, a "secret" trip. Worst is, you know they both gonna be stupid reasons too and is just pushed for drama. An extremely low number of real reasons would be satisfactory as a justified reason for a secret to break 2 sets of sisters.