VN Ren'Py Law School [Season 1] [MisterMaya]

[cxx]

At the rate it's going, I doubt we can break that relationship. This game really feels more like a semi-kinetic harem game than the college AVNs with parallel paths.

pathing starts on season 2.

 

[Dessolos]

As far as I'm concerned, Aurora can reap what she sows. She's someone who uses people, like that 2nd-year student, and in due time this will bite her in the ass. But I'm sure the MC will be there with open arms to save this wicked witch in distress.

That's why im surprised I like her so much other then end of Season 1 she really hasn't done anything to try to make things right. ( which was enough for me to find her redeemed but not for others) Yet before that scene , when I played Episode 2 she became my favorite cause the dev made me kind of feel bad for her and I saw a glimpse what she really would be like without Andrea's influence. Though I suspect in part cause I can understand part of her struggles and maybe even relate to her to a small degree which in turn kind of did make me feel bad for her.

For me she feels like one of those characters you know you shouldn't feel bad for her but I can't help but feel for her at the same time. Which I feel might be one of the goals of her character at least for Season 1. Tho this only works with some people. As you pointed out she hasn't really done enough to be redeemed while it is enough for me I can see it not being enough for your average person. However I feel she is only redeemed for me because saw some of her inner thoughts and pov from time to time without that I doubt I would

 

[Quetzzz]

However I feel she is only redeemed for me because saw some of her inner thoughts and pov from time to time without that I doubt I would

I have mixed feelings about this. We see Aurora in circumstances that can make us (the player) more sympathetic to her situation, but the MC isn't aware of any of this, but knows she's bad news.
Usually, this type of storytelling is done with an MC who's entirely unaware of a person plotting against them. Then we get situations where people warn the MC against an LI, but the MC plows ahead anyway. The player then watches things unfold while holding their breath about the consequences and ensuing drama.
How it plays out in this story is like the MC walking off a cliff with his eyes open.

And I get it. Aurora is showing consideration for the MC's taste in movies. She made an effort. But this effort coming from her is suspect, because we've been shown that Aurora always wants something out of it.

 

[GibboBtw]

I dunno if I'm getting unlucky or what, but I swear everytime I check this thread recently. It's some post about somebody disliking Aurora...

And all I can say to that is. IMO, they are just the best potential couple in the game. With the best chemistry. I'm going to let her ruin the MCs life if she wants to.

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[Chillout1984]

I dunno if I'm getting unlucky or what, but I swear everytime I check this thread recently. It's some post about somebody disliking Aurora...

And all I can say to that is. IMO, they are just the best potential couple in the game. With just the best chemistry. I'm going to let her ruin the MCs life if she wants to.

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I want to use chemistry with Aurora... To make toxic gas and kill her while she's sleeping

 

[OsirisHeir._]

I dunno if I'm getting unlucky or what, but I swear everytime I check this thread recently. It's some post about somebody disliking Aurora...

And all I can say to that is. IMO, they are just the best potential couple in the game. With just the best chemistry. I'm going to let her ruin the MCs life if she wants to.

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It always seems like it turns out that way.

 

[Quetzzz]

I want to use chemistry with Aurora... To make toxic gas and kill her while she's sleeping

Fart while she's under the blankets giving a BJ.

 

[Quetzzz]

That's why im surprised I like her so much other then end of Season 1 she really hasn't done anything to try to make things right. ( which was enough for me to find her redeemed but not for others) Yet before that scene , when I played Episode 2 she became my favorite cause the dev made me kind of feel bad for her and I saw a glimpse what she really would be like without Andrea's influence. Though I suspect in part cause I can understand part of her struggles and maybe even relate to her to a small degree which in turn kind of did make me feel bad for her.

Having now finished Season 1, I can see where you're coming from. Her testifying and going to such lengths does show she wants to do the right thing.
So I'm happy with where they are at the end of the game, but still not happy with their road to that point.

 

[Tier1selection]

Aurora seems to be a controversial character with a polarizing effect on many people here. You have the ones that are hopeful her character arc will develop in such a way that she will be the main heroine for MC (we have had some hints of that until now) and her detractors which think that she is just a manipulating bitch that made the mistake of getting too close to MC and simply got burned and now is looking for redemption out of "love" or self-pity. However, I think that as everything in life, her situation is in the grey area making her a nevertheless interesting character. However, as in these cases, this is a matter of taste and the fact that there are also other girls with less baggage and are equally or more interesting IMHO (e.g. Miranda or Lana) makes it appealling to just leave Aurora out of the equation. I am just sad that MC cannot romance Vicky (until now) or the Dean herself or Selena (anyone?).

 

[Quetzzz]

However, I think that as everything in life, her situation is in the grey area making her a nevertheless interesting character.

Oh, I don't like Aurora, but I entirely agree with this. She has her reasons for doing whatever it is she's doing. The MC has seen several sides of her personality, and he can draw his own conclusions. Did she help him in the trial, or did she get rid of Jacob, maybe a bit of both?
My frustration purely stems from being forced to spend time with her when I don't think it makes sense, and despite Aurora making clear that they're still holding on to the blackmail.

However, as in these cases, this is a matter of taste and the fact that there are also other girls with less baggage and are equally or more interesting IMHO (e.g. Miranda or Lana) makes it appealling to just leave Aurora out of the equation.

Yeah... Kinda? I don't think Miranda or Lana are inherently interesting. Miri has a quirk and baggage, and she's fairly unique... But she isn't necessarily a deep character. And Lana, I think she fell to the wayside. She doesn't have that much content or alone time with the MC despite them sharing a room. It's difficult to believe that she and the MC never sat down and talked about why her sister hates her so much.

I think the dev did a fantastic job at making every character mysterious, but being mysterious doesn't mean deep. What it does do is fast-track the connection we feel toward these characters when their secret is revealed, thus showing that they like and trust the MC. As far as shortcuts go, it's not a bad one to take.
This also makes Aurora a more interesting character than most, because she has motivations driving her, not trauma. She has an actual inner conflict.

I also gathered some stats using the Ren'Py SDK:

• MC has 6,588 blocks of dialogue, containing 46,180 words and 238,018 characters.
• Rose has 1,395 blocks of dialogue, containing 10,167 words and 53,061 characters.
• Aurora has 932 blocks of dialogue, containing 6,096 words and 31,106 characters.
• Lana has 902 blocks of dialogue, containing 6,462 words and 33,429 characters.
• Elsa has 801 blocks of dialogue, containing 6,582 words and 34,409 characters.
• Taylor has 791 blocks of dialogue, containing 5,907 words and 30,100 characters.
• Olive has 715 blocks of dialogue, containing 4,697 words and 23,600 characters.
• Alan has 533 blocks of dialogue, containing 4,761 words and 25,100 characters.
• Will has 527 blocks of dialogue, containing 4,227 words and 22,394 characters.
• Caroline has 427 blocks of dialogue, containing 4,342 words and 24,647 characters.
• Dean has 426 blocks of dialogue, containing 4,750 words and 26,524 characters.
• Samara has 300 blocks of dialogue, containing 2,077 words and 10,571 characters.
• Jack has 299 blocks of dialogue, containing 2,779 words and 14,994 characters.
• Sana has 296 blocks of dialogue, containing 1,871 words and 9,499 characters.

I'm surprised to see Rose so high up, because it doesn't feel like she got much content. Though she is very omnipresent in group settings, same as Lana.
Aurora has more lines than some other LI combined. I haven't looked at which LIs are available for all three major routes, but this ratio feels off to me. It's also striking that we had lewd content with Aurora before most other LIs. It's... brave to do this for a character that's designed to be divisive or controversial.

Seeing this, it isn't surprising that people have the impression that Aurora is the main LI of the game.

 

[John 7]

Aurora seems to be a controversial character with a polarizing effect on many people here. You have the ones that are hopeful her character arc will develop in such a way that she will be the main heroine for MC (we have had some hints of that until now) and her detractors which think that she is just a manipulating bitch that made the mistake of getting too close to MC and simply got burned and now is looking for redemption out of "love" or self-pity. However, I think that as everything in life, her situation is in the grey area making her a nevertheless interesting character. However, as in these cases, this is a matter of taste and the fact that there are also other girls with less baggage and are equally or more interesting IMHO (e.g. Miranda or Lana) makes it appealling to just leave Aurora out of the equation. I am just sad that MC cannot romance Vicky (until now) or the Dean herself or Selena (anyone?).

Perhaps you should maybe watch some games that not overwhelm your intellect. You didn't understand anything about the interactions between Aurora and Mc. Your whining is unbeareable.

 

[Tucokun]

Man, this game really like a semi-kinetic game. The choices almost don't matter!

 

[Dessolos]

Having now finished Season 1, I can see where you're coming from. Her testifying and going to such lengths does show she wants to do the right thing.
So I'm happy with where they are at the end of the game, but still not happy with their road to that point.

yeah tho id say my biggest disappointment for me personally is Lana and Rose and Miranda to a lesser degree.

Lana I just find it crazy she is a side girl cause she doesn't come across one until she is just put to the side. I kind of wish Episode 1 didn't spend so much time building her up if she was gonna be a side girl if im being honest. As that chapter build up my hopes alot with her to tear them down as she is still my favorite LI if I would include side girls.

Rose : It's just the lack of progression on their path for me. Also she does some questionable things for a best friend that made her come across in a bad light for me and let others catch up. ( the library thing) Also doesn't help outside of some comedy bits here and there she feels like she is almost forgotten about at times.

Miranda : honestly for me this mostly comes down to her lewd scene. I'm in the miniority for this one but I did not like it at all. For me I felt like I didn't know her well enough or good enough build up for me personally and felt like it was too quick and rushed to me , as it felt like they barley spent anytime in their room together being romantic or getting to know one another to me. Now if it happened after she got out of the Hospital I would of liked it more especially if we got to spend a little time getting to know each other more in her room before it lead to sex. As I felt like it lead there to quickly for me personally.

 

[FRVN]

yeah tho id say my biggest disappointment for me personally is Lana and Rose and Miranda to a lesser degree.

Lana I just find it crazy she is a side girl cause she doesn't come across one until she is just put to the side. I kind of wish Episode 1 didn't spend so much time building her up if she was gonna be a side girl if im being honest. As that chapter build up my hopes alot with her to tear them down as she is still my favorite LI if I would include side girls.

Rose : It's just the lack of progression on their path for me. Also she does some questionable things for a best friend that made her come across in a bad light for me and let others catch up. ( the library thing) Also doesn't help outside of some comedy bits here and there she feels like she is almost forgotten about at times.

Miranda : honestly for me this mostly comes down to her lewd scene. I'm in the miniority for this one but I did not like it at all. For me I felt like I didn't know her well enough or good enough build up for me personally and felt like it was too quick and rushed to me , as it felt like they barley spent anytime in their room together being romantic or getting to know one another to me. Now if it happened after she got out of the Hospital I would of liked it more especially if we got to spend a little time getting to know each other more in her room before it lead to sex. As I felt like it lead there to quickly for me personally.

Agree with your take on Lana and partially on Rose (not sure what things you're referring to, probably because I need to replay to refresh my memory), but I definitely disagree about Miranda. She was clearly taken with the MC early on, wanting to be partnered with him in class and inviting him into her dorm room despite not being fully dressed, and the shower incident made it clear she was going to jump his bones when the opportunity arose, which it did when her roommate left town. It didn't feel rushed to me; not every love interest needs a lengthy buildup to their first scene, and I say this as someone who prefers slow burns—as long as they are not obnoxiously slow.

 

[Dessolos]

but I definitely disagree about Miranda. She was clearly taken with the MC early on, wanting to be partnered with him in class and inviting him into her dorm room despite not being fully dressed, and the shower incident made it clear she was going to jump his bones when the opportunity arose, which it did when her roommate left town. It didn't feel rushed to me; not every love interest needs a lengthy buildup to their first scene, and I say this as someone who prefers slow burns—as long as they are not obnoxiously slow.

oh it was obvious it wouldn't be much build up or anything it's just for my personal taste I was left wanting to get to know her a bit more first. Which is why if it was reversed her talking going to the hospital and then the lewd scene when she got out I would of enjoyed it or liked it more. Tho when I say rushed it's more or less I felt like not much happened in the scene from memory before the sex happened. It felt like a rather short scene if you don't count the sex

 

[cxx]

I dunno if I'm getting unlucky or what, but I swear everytime I check this thread recently. It's some post about somebody disliking Aurora...

imagine that.

 

[Meiri]

Aurora seems to be a controversial character with a polarizing effect on many people here. You have the ones that are hopeful her character arc will develop in such a way that she will be the main heroine for MC (we have had some hints of that until now) and her detractors which think that she is just a manipulating bitch that made the mistake of getting too close to MC and simply got burned and now is looking for redemption out of "love" or self-pity. However, I think that as everything in life, her situation is in the grey area making her a nevertheless interesting character. However, as in these cases, this is a matter of taste and the fact that there are also other girls with less baggage and are equally or more interesting IMHO (e.g. Miranda or Lana) makes it appealling to just leave Aurora out of the equation. I am just sad that MC cannot romance Vicky (until now) or the Dean herself or Selena (anyone?).

I don't see her ever becoming the main heroine, even if there is a redemption, I still think it will take a while and at most I see her as eventually joining and slowly being accepted into his friend's group.

That being said, if there are people that just see her as a manipulative bitch, then they are only looking at her interactions back in chapter 1, because by now there's more to her than that.

 

[Jafo]

There is a lot of discussion about Aurora. And I understand it because of the last chapter. I already posted earlier that she was my NOGO. But playing the last update and understanding the shit she has to deal with she gained bonus with me. And yes Elsa is my number one. Curious to how she will go on in the next update with MC. But for sure Aurora gained her place with me. Showing up in the trial, confessing she fucked up. She really hits my soft spot. And earned a place in my heart.

Let find out in the next update. I won't care if she takes a prominent part of it. Sorry Aurora haters.

 

[icewolf81]

I also gathered some stats using the Ren'Py SDK:

• MC has 6,588 blocks of dialogue, containing 46,180 words and 238,018 characters.
• Rose has 1,395 blocks of dialogue, containing 10,167 words and 53,061 characters.
• Aurora has 932 blocks of dialogue, containing 6,096 words and 31,106 characters.
• Lana has 902 blocks of dialogue, containing 6,462 words and 33,429 characters.
• Elsa has 801 blocks of dialogue, containing 6,582 words and 34,409 characters.
• Taylor has 791 blocks of dialogue, containing 5,907 words and 30,100 characters.
• Olive has 715 blocks of dialogue, containing 4,697 words and 23,600 characters.
• Alan has 533 blocks of dialogue, containing 4,761 words and 25,100 characters.
• Will has 527 blocks of dialogue, containing 4,227 words and 22,394 characters.
• Caroline has 427 blocks of dialogue, containing 4,342 words and 24,647 characters.
• Dean has 426 blocks of dialogue, containing 4,750 words and 26,524 characters.
• Samara has 300 blocks of dialogue, containing 2,077 words and 10,571 characters.
• Jack has 299 blocks of dialogue, containing 2,779 words and 14,994 characters.
• Sana has 296 blocks of dialogue, containing 1,871 words and 9,499 characters.

I'm surprised to see Rose so high up, because it doesn't feel like she got much content. Though she is very omnipresent in group settings, same as Lana.
Aurora has more lines than some other LI combined. I haven't looked at which LIs are available for all three major routes, but this ratio feels off to me. It's also striking that we had lewd content with Aurora before most other LIs. It's... brave to do this for a character that's designed to be divisive or controversial.

Seeing this, it isn't surprising that people have the impression that Aurora is the main LI of the game.

I think its because of the start(they talk before they get to the school, in the car, the dorm...) and Rose has many words in the group with others.
Just my interpretation. I am sad, there is no real scene with Rose yet.

 

[Quetzzz]

Lana I just find it crazy she is a side girl cause she doesn't come across one until she is just put to the side. I kind of wish Episode 1 didn't spend so much time building her up if she was gonna be a side girl if im being honest. As that chapter build up my hopes alot with her to tear them down as she is still my favorite LI if I would include side girls.

I 100% agree with this. The only reason to keep Lana as a side girl is because she isn't looking for anything serious... But neither is the MC at this point, so that really doesn't matter. Lana is a sweet girl, and I wish we had more actual conversations with her to discover more depth to her personality. You're right about her falling to the side, and it's a shame.

Rose : It's just the lack of progression on their path for me. Also she does some questionable things for a best friend that made her come across in a bad light for me and let others catch up. ( the library thing) Also doesn't help outside of some comedy bits here and there she feels like she is almost forgotten about at times.

As the season went on, Rose gave more and more impressions of being a cuck queen. If this was a harem game, that's the role she'd play. She's not jealous of the MC or the women he sleeps with; she's annoyed when he doesn't tell her the deets. I agree about the lack of progression on her path. Writing-wise, I think this was explained nicely, with the MC getting used to the new normal and not giving her the same one-on-one attention as before. But I am frustrated with the MC really considering her as just a friend. Even when she presses on him that she's becoming a woman with needs, he just promises her to only let the good guys get near. This could've been a player choice, even more so because Rose is advertised as an LI on the neutral path (maybe others as well).
I'm glad she stopped getting used as comedic relief, and on that topic, I'm glad the silly sound effects more or less stopped after episode 1. I was half expecting episode 2 to include a laugh track.

I said it in another post, but I am surprised that Rose has the most lines in the game after the MC. It really doesn't feel that way.

Miranda : honestly for me this mostly comes down to her lewd scene. I'm in the miniority for this one but I did not like it at all. For me I felt like I didn't know her well enough or good enough build up for me personally and felt like it was too quick and rushed to me , as it felt like they barley spent anytime in their room together being romantic or getting to know one another to me. Now if it happened after she got out of the Hospital I would of liked it more especially if we got to spend a little time getting to know each other more in her room before it lead to sex. As I felt like it lead there to quickly for me personally.

Miranda, to me, is adorable. I would pat her head all day every day. But as a character, she's fairly one-dimensional. If she were promised a treatment for her voice, she'd be out of that school and in treatment in a heartbeat.
I agree that her path felt rushed, I felt the same. I brushed this off because she's 24 and likely hasn't been touched in a while. You're right that being intimate with her would've felt much better after the hospital. They would've had a connection instead of just another casual lay.

Another thing I didn't like is how easy ASL came to the MC. At the party in episode 1, I would've loved it if the MC tried to sign "How are you", and Miri manipulated his hands to correct him. But as it is, the guy only needs to see a sign once to remember it forever. I'm not saying this is out of character, because he can quote Romeo and Juliet in the right context after reading it once when he was 11. Just saying that having this kind of interaction would deepen their bond faster. They'd be doing something together, even if it's a 5-minute ASL lesson.

There's also a significant oversight in how her illness is portrayed. At a certain point it's said that if it gets worse, Miranda wouldn't be able to create any kind of sound. This is bullshit, unless her entire mouth would be paralyzed and her trachea closed. We can produce many sounds without our vocal cords, just using our breath, tongue, and lips. Similarly, instead of Miranda's "mmmhmmm", she would use other sounds (whistling or hissing) that would spare her vocal cords.