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I only ever played CeCe's path, and it hits hard. To my mind the game is really about her, which is not surprising given the Dev's history. (He lost a daughter to depression)
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That first beep still hits me hard just thinking about it.
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Here's a hint... When you do a play through with anyone other than Lexi and Linda, set Chris up with Linda, If you do this, Lexi will end up with Holly and you won't feel bad for her. EXCEPT if you do a Kiera Route play through, in that situation, set Chris up with Robin, then you will end up with you and your best friend being with Kiera and her best friend. (Although Lexi is my favorite route, this is my favorite ending.) Finally, if you ever again do a Linda play through, set Chris up with Robin. Then he gets a Robin/Kiera ending and Lexi still gets Holly. The only time you really want to do a Chris/Holly match up is if you are on a Lexi route. On a Cece or Steph route I'd do a Linda hook up for Chris, then Lexi gets Holly and Kiera gets Robin.
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I understand where your coming from, but... No matter which route you as the player choose, Cece, who is, as you pointed out, the center of the story due to Drifty's loss, survives and is moving forward. However, I personally don't think that the Cece route is the best one. I know that many people think it is the canon path or the only true path, but I think it is, for Cece, actually the weakest path.
Ok, don't all come to lynch me now, but take a second and listen up.
At the end of the Cece route, as those of you who have only ever played that route know, Cece ends up with the MC. But In so doing, she is still working through her issues and is relying on him and his strength to support her and keep her stable as she continues to get better. However, what you may not know is that in every other version of the story, at the end, Cece has grown and recovered to the point that she has the strength to get on a bus and head out on her own to face her future. It is a much stronger and more hopeful ending for her. People who only play the Cece route are often fearful of what would happen to Cece if she wasn't dating the MC, as if she couldn't possibly survive without him(you). That's why I think it is the weakest ending for the character at the heart of the story. If you really love Cece, but have only ever played the Cece route, I encourage you to play a different route and see how strong Cece can become when she is supported by friendship without the crutch of a relationship. If you love her, try setting her free. You might be amazed.
I will try a new playthrough with your advice in mind. Thanks!
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It is; considering she's arguably the best freaking character in the story...
CeCe is 1a.
Steph-CeCe throuple would have been the absolute best ending...
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Reading back through the last couple of pages lots of people have already defended Steph. But I'm guessing you said that Linda was tainted because of comments way back in the thread that she was maybe raped / abused. I'm not going to spoil anything, but even if that was true it would be pretty grim to view her as tainted because she was a victim of someone abusing her...
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You make some excellent points there, not sure I agree completely (not having seen more than one ending), but definitely food for some thought. I haven't played the game after it was finished but maybe I should see if I can woo Lexi and be friends with CeCe soon. I rarely revisit finished AVNs though, so we'll see.
Naah I respectfully completely disagree.... Choosing to be with Cece leads to them expecting a baby together! What could be a more powerful and beautiful consequential outcome than that? They are literally creating a new life together, and this from a girl who, as you know, before being saved and rehabilitated, didn't want to exist anymore.... furthermore, Cece tells MC that he is the one who gives her strength and security, by no means whatsoever that relationship is a crutch! They complete each other, Cece and MC are canon and are meant to be... of course you can choose any of the girls, you have that freedom, yes, but the most compelling and powerful outcome IS Cece and MC...
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First off, have you played any other route/ending? One cannot consider themselves knowlegable on a subject unless they have researched it fully. Someone who claims that McDonalds has the best burgers but has never eaten a burger anywhere else has an obviously biased opinion that can't be taken seriously. The same can be said for the player who says that Cece's route is the best route but has never played any other route. That may not directly apply to you, but there are many who fall in that catagory.
Secondly, the belief that Cece and the MC are meant to be because she says that "he is the one who gives her strength and security" and because they are having a baby, is a very whistful view of the situation and is not a psychologically healthy one for that matter.
20 years ago I got married to a woman who told me that I was her strength, her security. She drew the core of her identity from how she felt when we were together. Problem is that we weren't always together, and when I was at work, she was lonely, sad, lost, and didn't really like herself.
She got pregnant and we had a son, but she soon fell into postpartum depression. I was at work, our son was at daycare because she couldn't take care of him, and she was at home alone and unemployeed because she couldn't hold a job.
She only felt good about herself when she was making others happy, so when she was home alone she began to find others to sext with and cheat with so that she could feel attractive but that only made her hate herself even more and made her feel even more lonely. She ran off right before our son's 4th birthday and bounced from one man's house to anothers for a very long time. She got hooked on drugs and tried to kill herself multiple times over the years.
I stayed in touch with her parents for my son's sake, but she didn't talk to my son for almost 8 years of her own choosing.
She had another sone a couple years after she left us. That son now lives with her little sister. She also had a little girl about 4 years ago at the age of 42 (she's about 7 years younger than me) and she and that little girl now live with her parents so that they can make sure their granddaughter is cared for.
Her life is shit now, why? Because she never found her own strength. She never learned to be enough without someone else, and if you aren't enough on your own, you'll never be enough with someone else. Yes, people complete each other, but only 2 complete people can complete each other... that's just basic math.
It's like this, when 2 people form a relationship, it's like putting 2 drinks in a cup carrier. it's one carrier, but if both drinks are only half full, then the carrier only has half as much liquid as it could possibly hold.
People like to think that a relationship is 50/50, it's not. it's 100/100. because if you aren't 100%, the other person can't put in more than 100% and make up the difference. If 2 cups can each hold 10oz but each only have 5oz and you pour them together in a 20oz (10oz +10oz) container, the relationship(container) is only half full.
Cece looking to the MC as her source of strength is hella dangerous and not psycologically sound. Therefore, NOT her strongest ending. That's a codependent and dangerous situation.
You can think that it's a sentimentally beautiful ending all you want to because it gives you the MC's the hero vibe, but in reality it truthfully places them both and their child in a dangerous and instable position.
P.S. I've been a single father for over 14 years now. My son is great. He graduated high school last May. But his mother's life is garbage, and she was very much like Cece. Part of why this game hits me so hard.
I agree with Grif1001s comment on Cece.
On the topic of Cece as a LI I don’t think she was emotionally resilient enough to be in a romantic relationship with the MC and have a child with him. Cece’s depression was a very difficult problem to deal with for the MC especially when they have a child together.
On my first play-through on the Lexi path I wrote off Cece as a LI as early as chapter 2. I still love Cece as a character and want the MC to care for her as a friend, but Cece as a LI is to much for the MC to handle. Cece will still make her second attempt in chapter 6 regardless of the support the MC provides.
I have only played through the game 3 times, on Lexi, Linda and Steph paths. I plan to eventually play all the paths to see the content of this great game, including the Cece path, but I don’t think I will change my mind to this.
The Steph path ended I my opinion with a very happy outcome. Everyone except Cece is paired up, and Cece is ready to move on with her treatment. I also think that Cece got a great deal of satisfaction from seeing that all her friends were in a good place in their lives. Cece had after all postponed her second attempt until her friends were on the right track in their lives.
On the topic of Cece as a LI I don’t think she was emotionally resilient enough to be in a romantic relationship with the MC and have a child with him. Cece’s depression was a very difficult problem to deal with for the MC especially when they have a child together.
On my first play-through on the Lexi path I wrote off Cece as a LI as early as chapter 2. I still love Cece as a character and want the MC to care for her as a friend, but Cece as a LI is to much for the MC to handle. Cece will still make her second attempt in chapter 6 regardless of the support the MC provides.
I have only played through the game 3 times, on Lexi, Linda and Steph paths. I plan to eventually play all the paths to see the content of this great game, including the Cece path, but I don’t think I will change my mind to this.
The Steph path ended I my opinion with a very happy outcome. Everyone except Cece is paired up, and Cece is ready to move on with her treatment. I also think that Cece got a great deal of satisfaction from seeing that all her friends were in a good place in their lives. Cece had after all postponed her second attempt until her friends were on the right track in their lives.
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If you ever listen to Drifty there is NO CANNON path or Girl
There's no doubt that Cece is at the center of the story. That doesn't mean that her happily-ever-after involves a white picket fence and 2.4 kids with Prince Charming.
On the other hand, I'm not as down on her pairing up with the MC and having a child as some are - she didn't just glom onto him to give herself purpose; she took the steps and did the work to get help, and to figure out her answers. We don't see the day-to-day of her going through that process, but we do know there are a couple of time-skips, and if she's not paired with the main character, those time skips are enough for her to find her happy ending as a solo act. The whole point of a relationship is that the right two people together are more than the sum of what they are individually - otherwise you're just room-mates with benefits...
Cece isn't fixed in the end, but she does find her balance, whether that's standing beside the MC, or setting out on her own.
On the other hand, I'm not as down on her pairing up with the MC and having a child as some are - she didn't just glom onto him to give herself purpose; she took the steps and did the work to get help, and to figure out her answers. We don't see the day-to-day of her going through that process, but we do know there are a couple of time-skips, and if she's not paired with the main character, those time skips are enough for her to find her happy ending as a solo act. The whole point of a relationship is that the right two people together are more than the sum of what they are individually - otherwise you're just room-mates with benefits...
Cece isn't fixed in the end, but she does find her balance, whether that's standing beside the MC, or setting out on her own.
On my first play through I did not even consider Cece as a possible LI until that scene at the end of chapter 2. When I had to finally decide Cece had probably moved to my preferred choice but I went with Lexi, who I was initially thinking of and it made sense since she invited us all over to her place.
The Lexi story was really good, and in any other game I would probably have loved it but Cece kind of gets to you, not to mention making me feel so guilty immediately after choosing. As for later chapters, they just feel better as a Cece run through for me and I felt I was kind of rushing anyway so I could start again. I have played it enough now that I can get through a certain chapter mostly fine, the part that still gets to me though is the end, after the concert when Cece starts writing the letter, knowing that her story has come to an end and that is it. No more Cece, unless I find her cameo appearances.
I kind of agree with both sides of the Cece LI argument here and personal experiences will probably dictate what is best. After that kiss and seeing the way she and the MC interact, the way she looks at him, her smile, not to mention the way she makes me laugh (I just love her personality), I can easily see why she is so popular and I find it difficult to pick any of the others. Personally I prefer the non-pregnant Cece ending, I don't think kids would be a good idea at that point but possibly in the future.
I think all the characters in this game really are great although I have only done a Lexi, Lexi + Holly, Steph and Cece (several times) ending so far. Cece has to be my favourite character I have seen in any game so far, she is utterly adorable.
The Lexi story was really good, and in any other game I would probably have loved it but Cece kind of gets to you, not to mention making me feel so guilty immediately after choosing. As for later chapters, they just feel better as a Cece run through for me and I felt I was kind of rushing anyway so I could start again. I have played it enough now that I can get through a certain chapter mostly fine, the part that still gets to me though is the end, after the concert when Cece starts writing the letter, knowing that her story has come to an end and that is it. No more Cece, unless I find her cameo appearances.
I kind of agree with both sides of the Cece LI argument here and personal experiences will probably dictate what is best. After that kiss and seeing the way she and the MC interact, the way she looks at him, her smile, not to mention the way she makes me laugh (I just love her personality), I can easily see why she is so popular and I find it difficult to pick any of the others. Personally I prefer the non-pregnant Cece ending, I don't think kids would be a good idea at that point but possibly in the future.
I think all the characters in this game really are great although I have only done a Lexi, Lexi + Holly, Steph and Cece (several times) ending so far. Cece has to be my favourite character I have seen in any game so far, she is utterly adorable.
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Okay, so, with how much you like Cece, I'm gonna give you what might seem like a weird sugestion for your next play through... Do a Kera/MC play through and set Chris up with Robin... Here's why I say this...
Even though the Lexi Route is my favorite play through, just slightly over the Cece route, the Kira/MC-Robin/Chris ending is my favorite ending... For the longest time, Kira didn't really interest me at all. I played all the other routes first and played hers last only because I am a completionalist and wanted to play all the routes.
But when I finally played her route, the way I saw her completely changed.
Remember when Kira kisses Cece at Lexi's and calls her sis? That's because Kira relates to what Cece is going through. Kira may not have had the exact same issue as Cece, but she had her own issues that she had to deal with and struggled with for years. Through the course of Kira's route, if you pay close attention, it is almost a mirror for what Cece could have gone through if she had been further along her route when she met the MC. For Kira, Robin was her MC who helped her through her worst times, and seeing how Kira came through it, and where she ends up, gives you hope for the future that Cece will find for herself somewhere out there along that bus trip into the big wide world.