VN Others Lending My NTR Girlfriend [v0.13.1] [phonegames]

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I don't actually want the story to be changed so that the MC is a willing participant - that'd be removing the most interesting aspect of it and making it indistinguishable to every other phone-ntr game. Instead, i want him to have a bit more of a backbone when he continuously says he doesn't want this despite still finding it arousing - something more along the lines of 'yeah, I was curious how much i'd like actually indulging in this fetish - and i've had my fun, but this isn't actually what I want. when she steps across the line (which she already has) and i have the chance, i'm gone'. It'd actually be really satisfying to have the GF disappear for a few days and - as a previous poster mentioned - essentially forget the MC, only to come home and find he already moved out and ghosted her. Experience the fallout from the text messages from mutuals and social media posts.

Because the GF doesn't know about his fetish, and seemingly doesn't care either. she blew the 'friend' on the first day and was already making sideways remarks and gaslighting. 'my mouth hurts', 'i thanked him better then you can'. etc. Alongside sexting with him even before that.

The issue isn't that there's zero response to the MC saying no or the MC having the option to do so, it's that the GF has no regard or respect for the MC and his friends are gaslighting him into thinking that's ok.

Basically - The GF being a cheating whore is fine - even hot, in a deeply hatable way - but the part that hurts the story is the MC having absolutely zero self-respect or awareness that he's essentially being used (without his consent) for the GF's fetish rather then the other way around, and their 'friends' are enabling and encouraging it.

Tl;dr - the GF being a terrible person is hot and doesn't actually need to be changed for the narrative, the story needs to actually have characters recognize and respond to that semi-believably.

P.S. Apologies about the rambly message, was editing it to get my point across and appear to have reiterated some where I didn't need to.
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This has always been the problem. The sharing kink works but not if the MC does not have sex with her because at that point it is not sharing. And as presented she is an absolutely terrible person. One of the worst people you'd even meet. The MC is so unrealistically spineless
 
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All the other things aside honestly not everyone wants a strong dom mc the people saying oh the mc should have back bone and stuff are into doms and forcing in into others is not cool i think the mc should have choices that determines if you wanna be a dom or a cuck
 
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Theadriel said:
I would say make Olivia game a sequel to Lending after Lending MC dropped his GF (as he should) and go for Olivia. And since they already have a chemistry together it would at least make sense she's opening to him a bit more, maybe even be there to comfort him after the breakup etc... The cuck cucking a virgin bf by corrupting his virgin gf would at least be original
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Honestly what I would like to see with olivia in a standalone game is that her bf lends her to the MC in some form of care giver aspect to look after him because of the events that have happened and the break up sends him into a spiral , but at the start the MC has no malicious plan and genuinely sees Olivia as someone trying to help , then one day the MC is like this is what happened to me but only the shoe is on the other foot this time around and it goes from there
 
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aaronboy22 said:
I don't actually want the story to be changed so that the MC is a willing participant - that'd be removing the most interesting aspect of it and making it indistinguishable to every other phone-ntr game.
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Good thing this is a choice then and you are not forced to take it. While it's something you personally don't want, it does address what some other people saw as weakness of the plot.

It'd actually be really satisfying to have the GF disappear for a few days and - as a previous poster mentioned - essentially forget the MC, only to come home and find he already moved out and ghosted her. Experience the fallout from the text messages from mutuals and social media posts.
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That's basically cutting the game short, effectively after day 2 or 3 tops. And MC moving out and ghosting instead of simply telling her about breaking up sounds just as pathetic and spineless as the one we get at the moment.
 
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ffive said:
Good thing this is a choice then and you are not forced to take it. While it's something you personally don't want, it does address what some other people saw as weakness of the plot.
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I think that changing the story so that she's doing it with permission weakens the actually good emotional gut punch that comes from the cheating, so i'm suggesting this from the viewpoint that these changes would actually improve the story and double down on what the game actually does really, really well - that being the slow unraveling of the lies ending in finding out more of how she's cheating.

Making it just normal NTS without the corruption - because she never needed to be talked into this - abruptly cuts out the actual impact of the situation and cheapens it even more then normal NTS.

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That's basically cutting the game short, effectively after day 2 or 3 tops. And MC moving out and ghosting instead of simply telling her about breaking up sounds just as pathetic and spineless as the one we get at the moment.
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why, story wise, should Olivia get the satisfaction and closure of a big, dramatic blowup? The MC could easily get the satisfaction from watching the fallout without having to give her the time of day.

And i'm not saying '2 or 3 days' as a concrete time span, and i'm also not suggesting that as the immediate next thing that should be put in the game - the proposed period where Emily leaves the MC without a care could easily be a week of drawn out lies and debauchery in 10 or 20 chapters.

The MC getting a backbone starts here, and then builds up over time while he's not getting beaten down by Emily's actions and Sabrinas gaslighting. out of Platos cave (for lack of a better analogy), he realizes what was being done to him and is validated in feeling he has worth by (as suggested) A promotion, and how Emily is trying to get him back - even if he knows it's just so she can use him for the thrill of cheating on him.

The first step of growing a spine is realizing he has to walk.

Edit P.S: The reason i'm advocating like this is because, unlike a lot of other games here - there's genuine potential for a good story to come out of whats already there. Actual character growth and progression - alongside the smut. I would like it to be more meaningful than yet another low effort, meaningless spank-bait. What's already here is presented and structured well enough the OP should take some pride in that.
 
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aaronboy22 said:
I think that changing the story so that she's doing it with permission weakens the actually good emotional gut punch that comes from the cheating
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And for some people this is not good emotional gut punch but extremely irritating behavior from characters which doesn't make any sense and ruins the story for them, because they want it to be about NTS not NTR. If the author can relatively easily appeal to both types of these folks, i think it's a good move on their part to do it.

If you want emotional gut punch then simply don't give consent in your playthrough. Girlfriend will be the same cheater she always was.

why, story wise, should Olivia get the satisfaction and closure of a big, dramatic blowup? The MC could easily get the satisfaction from watching the fallout without having to give her the time of day.
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What does Olivia have to do with any of this? She's the virgin idiot who appears late in the game.

And it's rather odd that you think "big dramatic blowup" of simply telling your cheating girlfriend the relationship is over is going to be somehow satisfying for her, but her learning that she's gotten to live in her boyfriend's head rent-free for weeks if not months as he plotted and schemed some sort of high school drama revenge for her cheating wouldn't give her even more satisfaction, if that's the logic you're going with.

You may believe that this sort of scheming is somehow "getting your revenge" but from the outside, for people who don't have a dog in this race, it just makes the MC pretty obsessive and pathetic.
 
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ffive said:
And for some people this is not good emotional gut punch but extremely irritating behavior from characters which doesn't make any sense and ruins the story for them, because they want it to be about NTS not NTR. If the author can relatively easily appeal to both types of these folks, i think it's a good move on their part to do it.

If you want emotional gut punch then simply don't give consent in your playthrough. Girlfriend will be the same cheater she always was.


What does Olivia have to do with any of this? She's the virgin idiot who appears late in the game.

And it's rather odd that you think "big dramatic blowup" of simply telling your cheating girlfriend the relationship is over is going to be somehow satisfying for her, but her learning that she's gotten to live in her boyfriend's head rent-free for weeks if not months as he plotted and schemed some sort of high school drama revenge for her cheating wouldn't give her even more satisfaction, if that's the logic you're going with.

You may believe that this sort of scheming is somehow "getting your revenge" but from the outside, for people who don't have a dog in this race, it just makes the MC pretty obsessive and pathetic.
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Accidentally named Olivia when i was referring to Emily, and i'm not really advocating 'getting revenge' so much as leaving and watching the fireworks - the MC quite frankly doesn't really need to do anything beyond leaving to see shit go down.

And watching the fireworks is just as much for the player as the MC, cutting the story at when the relationship ends ignores that there's more to do, more women he can end up with, etc.

And leaving without a word is just as, if not more meaningful then telling her it's over. that message kinda comes with the territory of being gone.

Also - Acting like telling Emily it's over wouldn't be a big dramatic blowup is hilarious - have you ever interacted with a woman? Especial the kind of woman that, by all appearances, Emily is?
 
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ffive said:
And for some people this is not good emotional gut punch but extremely irritating behavior from characters which doesn't make any sense and ruins the story for them, because they want it to be about NTS not NTR. If the author can relatively easily appeal to both types of these folks, i think it's a good move on their part to do it.

If you want emotional gut punch then simply don't give consent in your playthrough. Girlfriend will be the same cheater she always was.
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Sorry, didnt reply to this bit in my original response: The issue with making both viable through the gameplay is that it necessitates making both storylines close enough that most events overlap or, if they do not, functionally developing two separate games entirely. This, combined with the fact that the NTS path feels like a half-cooked shrug of a way to cater to people who want that, especially after the lead in being that Emily doesn't know about your fetish but blew him on the first date. Justifying that by saying 'oh we've talked about it off-screen before the start of the game' is an ass-pull.

And, even more then the in-narrative problems it introduces - there's tons of games that do the shallow route of NTS corruption. There's few that actually tell a good story in an NTR narrative. Especially not with what could possibly end up being a happy ending for the male lead.

Broadening horizons to meet a wider market only works when the product doesn't overtly lose quality in doing so. What the game, as presented and written, does best is the NTR path. (from an objective standpoint of story execution - it's smut so it's meant to be hot; but the actual story is conveyed very efficiently, tension is built and released, and characters are established surprisingly easily, and remain consistent throughout - as shallow as they are due to the nature of the game.)

Besides, the games already catering to a niche market - why not make it better in that niche rather than try half-heartedly to pull in the neighboring niche?
 
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Hiyamana

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aaronboy22 said:
Sorry, didnt reply to this bit in my original response: The issue with making both viable through the gameplay is that it necessitates making both storylines close enough that most events overlap or, if they do not, functionally developing two separate games entirely. This, combined with the fact that the NTS path feels like a half-cooked shrug of a way to cater to people who want that, especially after the lead in being that Emily doesn't know about your fetish but blew him on the first date. Justifying that by saying 'oh we've talked about it off-screen before the start of the game' is an ass-pull.

And, even more then the in-narrative problems it introduces - there's tons of games that do the shallow route of NTS corruption. There's few that actually tell a good story in an NTR narrative. Especially not with what could possibly end up being a happy ending for the male lead.

Broadening horizons to meet a wider market only works when the product doesn't overtly lose quality in doing so. What the game, as presented and written, does best is the NTR path. (from an objective standpoint of story execution - it's smut so it's meant to be hot; but the actual story is conveyed very efficiently, tension is built and released, and characters are established surprisingly easily, and remain consistent throughout - as shallow as they are due to the nature of the game.)

Besides, the games already catering to a niche market - why not make it better in that niche rather than try half-heartedly to pull in the neighboring niche?
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I'd argue as it stands it is not a great NTR story. It is clear she was just cheating on him, likely before the game even started, and everyone involved is effectively bullying him about it while he allows it to happen. There is no push and pull. No seduction or temptation. It's just an awful bunch of people behaving awfully. The reason many are wondering about NTS is because as it stands the is not a single likeable or relatable character.

Pacing wise whether it is NTR or NTS a bunch of stuff has to have happened off camera pre game. Nobody just blows a guy like that in the situation as presented
 
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According to the patreon post, game should release by Friday this week. Hopefully no more bugs or grammatical errors.
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