Recommending Lesbian Protagonist Games List (My Version)

[BlackWebGames]

Friend, you messed up. You didn't communicate something vital about your story and misled your audience. You don't get to be sassy at someone for giving out accurate information to the relevant people.

sassy was not the intention. Nor confrontational, as I am just a little unsure of their motivations. I make a post telling people that I was sorry that there was a misunderstanding and that I should have been more upfront from the beginning and that I will do better in the future. Then they leave a comment saying that I was being misleading and I should be more upfront in the future and then minutes later posts here demanding that my game be removed from this page.

And yes saying 'so it shouldn't be on the list' is demanding.

I fully appreciate that this is catching some people by surprise. I thought the foreshadowing in the first release of the game made it clear what direction the game would eventually go but I see now that I was wrong. I never tried to mislead anyone. I have on all my support pages that I make lesbian and futa games. I never said that this game was a lesbian only game and F95 does not allow future tags to be added to the game page, only tags of content currently in the game, though they do seem a little spiritic in enforcing that. However I am sure if the futa tag had been added then people would be saying I mislead them because there isn't currently any futa in the game.

I am trying to be upfront and correct peoples expectations as well as alter the game slightly as a way of acknowledging my mistake.

At this point what do you want me to do that would not drastically change the direction of the story to the point where it isn't even the intended game anymore?

 

[Deleted member 65497]

Right, let's break it down one by one.

First of all, I'm just going to say that I'm not a fan of using the word "futa" as anything other than another word for hermaphrodite. I feel like it's more often than not used to say, "It's a woman with a dick but not the gross trans kind you see on the internet because I don't like those." And while an intersex person who identifies as a woman can be born with both ovaries and male genitalia... and, an argument could be made that they are referring to people of that kind... I doubt. It feels more like a form of erasure. A magic word to dismiss any consideration of the real world from the one you created. But relax; I'm not calling for a change or crying injustice. I get that this is a fact of the industry. It's just something to keep in my mind.

Second of all, your want to only see, and I quote, "pussy in pussy" is valid. Not everybody is attracted to every genitalia, and it doesn't make a person transphobic if they don't want to be with a trans person who has something different in their pants than what they are looking for. But it is important to separate that from sexuality. If a trans woman, regardless of her genitalia, is attracted to other women, she is a lesbian, and when she is in a relationship with another woman, she is in a lesbian relationship. Now, I understand by your banner and pfp that this is your mission (Which is, I guess, why you replied to my comment about sexuality changes after transition with this completely unrelated subject.), but though you might find a penis to be appalling; some of us, who are also "enjoyers" of the lesbian subgenre, either want to see it or don't care for it. Your version of what is a correct use of the lesbian tag is personal, and I honestly don't see why you feel the need to assert it on the entire site, given that you can just not download any game with the futa tag.

Thirdly and lastly. This could have been unintentional or just the way you talk about the topic... But I feel like I have to make it clear. Trans rights are not up for debate.

I apologize if I didn't give due seriousness to your post and the things you said. I only kind of gave this rather dry answer because every now and then, every waning moon it seems, someone comes here wanting to argue that games where the protagonist kisses a girl in the first few seconds of the game but spends more time sitting on a bunch of dicks should be considered "lesbian",
So again, sorry.

 

[GreenDark]

sassy was not the intention. Nor confrontational,

"Did I kill your dog or something" isn't confrontational, sassy, sarcastic or otherwise derisory in any way? I know emotion is hard to communicate through text but that question obviously has some hostility in it even if very little. If you don't want to be confrontational, choose better words next time.

And yes saying 'so it shouldn't be on the list' is demanding.

No, it isn't demanding. It's a statement of fact congruent with how this list works.

I fully appreciate that this is catching some people by surprise. I thought the foreshadowing in the first release of the game made it clear what direction the game would eventually go but I see now that I was wrong. I never tried to mislead anyone. I have on all my support pages that I make lesbian and futa games. I never said that this game was a lesbian only game and F95 does not allow future tags to be added to the game page, only tags of content currently in the game, though they do seem a little spiritic in enforcing that. However I am sure if the futa tag had been added then people would be saying I mislead them because there isn't currently any futa in the game.

I'm not making any assumptions on your intentions with how you communicated. The simple fact is that your communication was insufficient and people were misled.
This site has all of the means necessary for you to make it clear that your story wasn't going to be what people thought it was. Many game threads have "future tags" somewhere in their OP. You could post it on the thread, you can put it in the OP anywhere in any way you want whether it's with bold colors or in a spoiler like this or

Spoiler: like this

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At this point what do you want me to do that would not drastically change the direction of the story to the point where it isn't even the intended game anymore?

That's for you to figure out as the writer with an audience that had expectations. Personally, I'm not asking you to make any changes to the story. The point of my previous post was to call you out for acting like The Celtic fan did anything unreasonable when you made a blunder.

 

[Éama]

The tagging makes it difficult enough to find decent lesbian content on F95. It's not a matter of identity but rather of having a good overview over lesbian content or one that is muddied by different tags and hence different genres. Just my two cents. I appreciate every LGBT person but I also struggle to find lesbian games, so this dilemma can only be prevented if we have places where we can focus on lesbian content instead of embracing everything that is overlapping in some way or form.

 

[CboyC95]

The tagging makes it difficult enough to find decent lesbian content on F95. It's not a matter of identity but rather of having a good overview over lesbian content or one that is muddied by different tags and hence different genres. Just my two cents. I appreciate every LGBT person but I also struggle to find lesbian games, so this dilemma can only be prevented if we have places where we can focus on lesbian content instead of embracing everything that is overlapping in some way or form.

I agree. They're tagging definitions made it too broad to find what content you're looking for.

 

[The Celtic fan]

sassy was not the intention. Nor confrontational, as I am just a little unsure of their motivations. I make a post telling people that I was sorry that there was a misunderstanding and that I should have been more upfront from the beginning and that I will do better in the future. Then they leave a comment saying that I was being misleading and I should be more upfront in the future and then minutes later posts here demanding that my game be removed from this page.

And yes saying 'so it shouldn't be on the list' is demanding.

I fully appreciate that this is catching some people by surprise. I thought the foreshadowing in the first release of the game made it clear what direction the game would eventually go but I see now that I was wrong. I never tried to mislead anyone. I have on all my support pages that I make lesbian and futa games. I never said that this game was a lesbian only game and F95 does not allow future tags to be added to the game page, only tags of content currently in the game, though they do seem a little spiritic in enforcing that. However I am sure if the futa tag had been added then people would be saying I mislead them because there isn't currently any futa in the game.

I am trying to be upfront and correct peoples expectations as well as alter the game slightly as a way of acknowledging my mistake.

At this point what do you want me to do that would not drastically change the direction of the story to the point where it isn't even the intended game anymore?

I didn't mean to offend, nor demand anything again this is not my list and I was just informing, that according to the criteria of only lesbian games no dicks, your game would not comply so it shouldn't be on the list, for example, your new game is not here because it is a futa game.

nothing against you, nothing against your games I didn't go anywhere to say that they shouldn't play the game or that it sucks or anything.

and no you were not being asked to change your game either, but there was a miscommunication, years went by without many people knowing relevant information like that, as GreenDark said many devs have future tags, have dev notes where they communicate the direction they plan to take for the game, or even directly put that in the description of the game.

it was also because of this miscommunication that many people thought your game was going to be a purely lesbian game, again my intention was to inform those who are here and do not keep checking threads and comments of games that already believe to be "guaranteed" (i.e. they just download each version and that's it) or those who have not yet read your statement, that your game was unfortunately not a lesbian game.

 

[baxtus]

I think the bet way is to have lesbian mean only cisgender and Post-Op trans, so no dicks (this includes no futas), so only vaginas

 

[Mika022]

And yes saying 'so it shouldn't be on the list' is demanding.

Look, this list is made for those who want to play games without even a dick involved, it's not like there aren't futa games on it, but this content is totally OPTIONAL, if in MLS there will be futa content and it is not avoidable, then it makes no sense for it to be on the list based on her own proposal.

 

[Moshiko.atrftb]

Could we maybe at least make it a subcategory on this list so people who don't mind a little girldick in their game can find games of the genre just as easily? (only if op is up for it, of course)

 

[Powerless99]

I also struggle to find lesbian games, so this dilemma can only be prevented if we have places where we can focus on lesbian content instead of embracing everything that is overlapping in some way or form.

If you want a list to find lesbian focused games, I shall provide you with this thread: https://f95zone.to/threads/lesbian-protagonist-games-list-my-version.103237/

 

[baxtus]

Could we maybe at least make it a subcategory on this list so people who don't mind a little girldick in their game can find games of the genre just as easily? (only if op is up for it, of course)

Just create a new thread for that sort of content

 

[baxtus]

Look, this list is made for those who want to play games without even a dick involved, it's not like there aren't futa games on it, but this content is totally OPTIONAL, if in MLS there will be futa content and it is not avoidable, then it makes no sense for it to be on the list based on her own proposal.

Agreed, games with Males, Futas and Pre-Op trans, basically any game with dick that isn't avoidable, does not belong on this list

 

[bacienvu88]

years went by without many people knowing relevant information like that

As far as I remember BWG has always been clear that MLS was supposed to be futa.

as GreenDark said many devs have future tags, have dev notes where they communicate the direction they plan to take for the game, or even directly put that in the description of the game.

BWG isn't owner of the MLS thread, so he is unable to edit any of that. You should complain to the one who owns the thread instead rather than to BWG.

it was also because of this miscommunication that many people thought your game was going to be a purely lesbian game, again my intention was to inform those who are here and do not keep checking threads and comments of games that already believe to be "guaranteed" (i.e. they just download each version and that's it) or those who have not yet read your statement, that your game was unfortunately not a lesbian game.

Again, complain to the mod who owns the thread. It seems pretty unreasonable to demand BWG to police a thread he has no control over and that provides pirated copies of his game.

 

[The Celtic fan]

As far as I remember BWG has always been clear that MLS was supposed to be futa.

BWG isn't owner of the MLS thread, so he is unable to edit any of that. You should complain to the one who owns the thread instead rather than to BWG.

Again, complain to the mod who owns the thread. It seems pretty unreasonable to demand BWG to police a thread he has no control over and that provides pirated copies of his game.

I'm not saying BWG was misleading, I'm sure if people asked him he would have been clear.

the thing is that it wasn't something that was kept talking about and it was something that some people didn't know since many assumed that the game was lesbian, not everyone keeps checking conversation by conversation of the threads, there were even people in his subscribestar who didn't know.

because of how the thread here was made people assumed it was a lesbian game, he is pretty active too he could have told the thread maintainer to put those things up so people wouldn't assume anything, again that was a very important thing.

the other thing that happened here, I didn't come here to complain or demand anything, I came here to inform those who didn't know that his game was not a lesbian game, if people had known it wouldn't have been here in the first place, as it happens for example with his new game, and again nothing is being demanded, just telling him that the communication could have been better.

if you can't say anything because his game is being pirated, then it seems to me that he should complain about his game being pirated and not that someone reports on a lesbian list that a game that people thought was lesbian unfortunately turned out not to be.

he came to answer me as if I had said something personal against him, as if I had told people not to support him or something like that, there are good ways of communicating things and for me his way was not correct.

 

[UntrustableBackstabber]

To try and get back on topic,How much GL content can be expected (including subtext, but hugs are fine too)? Looks very cute.
And yes, itch.io is my go-to for Western games - I'm not really a fan of Steam.

Edit: Ahaha. I already like it, jam entries rarely disappoint. (And removed a misunderstanding on my behalf, apologies.)

It is pretty good for a super short game. I would love to have a longer version of this. Being an extremely chill cat girl to an ecentric witch sounds like a good premise. Such a shame it is short.

 

[red_faced]

Deep Vault 69 seems to be in the process of being a game where all-lesbian playthrough is possible.

https://f95zone.to/threads/deep-vault-69-v0-2-7_a-bohohon.126327/

Right now, you can choose a female protagonist and it changes your sprite and SOME of the H-scene art, but then all the dialog is as though you were a guy and some of the H-scene art is as well. Hopefully the dev goes all the way through and makes a completely lesbian playthrough possible.

 

[The Celtic fan]

Deep Vault 69 seems to be in the process of being a game where all-lesbian playthrough is possible.

https://f95zone.to/threads/deep-vault-69-v0-2-7_a-bohohon.126327/

Right now, you can choose a female protagonist and it changes your sprite and SOME of the H-scene art, but then all the dialog is as though you were a guy and some of the H-scene art is as well. Hopefully the dev goes all the way through and makes a completely lesbian playthrough possible.

it's female protagonist or futa? it doesn't have the female protagonist tag but it does have the futa protagonist, and when you start it says that regardless of the chosen gender you have a certain "attribute".

edit: apparently yes, is a futa protagonist, from the initial release, it was mentioned that it was futa.

 

[UntrustableBackstabber]

You know I always hate that when I see a Lesbian tag in a Male Protagonist game then I see some idiot ask "Is Lesbian Content avoidable?".... I'm so fucking tempted to ask "Is Male Protagonist Content avoidable?" just because bozos put Lesbian tag for male protagonist.

 

[Shinlaw]

https://f95zone.to/threads/arianas-perverted-diary-v0-4-subjugationleague.161606/

As it is now, only lesbian content is present and no futa (except for the scene where the heroine imagines herself as one). No way to say how it will go past that, considering futa is in the tags and the dev's other game has it unconditionally.

 

[The Celtic fan]

https://f95zone.to/threads/arianas-perverted-diary-v0-4-subjugationleague.161606/

As it is now, only lesbian content is present and no futa (except for the scene where the heroine imagines herself as one). No way to say how it will go past that, considering futa is in the tags and the dev's other game has it unconditionally.

the dev has already said that futa will not be avoidable.