Recommending Lesbian Protagonist Games List (My Version)

[GreenDark]

Can someone tell me if Keepers is recommended ?

Do you mean if it's well made or if it lets you avoid the futa parade?
I don't know how good the story is since it has unavoidable futa.
Keepers 2 lets you avoid them but it's a direct sequel to K1 so the story is nonsense if you didn't read it. I mean, it's also nonsense on its own because of unfortunate writing choices but...

 

[deadboob]

one during work one day last month I was doing what normally do, letting my brain run absolute wild with any ideas it wanted. It decided it wanted to put together a whole story plot line for a lesbian story that took place during the days when slavery was still a thing, I think my brain was trying to make a really hard to sell/write story. edit: to preface this we were making jokes about slavery and stuff because a customer came in who was adamant that my coworker not make their food

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[Moshiko.atrftb]

one during work one day last month I was doing what normally do, letting my brain run absolute wild with any ideas it wanted. It decided it wanted to put together a whole story plot line for a lesbian story that took place during the days when slavery was still a thing, I think my brain was trying to make a really hard to sell/write story. edit: to preface this we were making jokes about slavery and stuff because a customer came in who was adamant that my coworker not make their food

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A bit dicey, but it could honestly make for an interesting setting if handled well. That being said, having the setting be inspired by the Atlantic slave trade rather than being set during it would make your life far easier. Trust me, as someone who wrote a novel set in an alternative reality, for all the benefits it has, it brings just as many complications. A fictional story will allow far more leeway. For example, the morality of the mc; I myself am not a fan of the "corruption path" trope, but if you or your intended audience are, that shit won't fly in a historical setting. If you don't want to make one from scratch, you can even take a preexisting setting with a similar premise, like Mistborn. If you go with the historical setting anyway, do your research; be honest, brutal, and kind. That is the least you owe to your readers, to those who suffered, and to your story.

And finally, if you actually go somewhere with this and want some help or notes, feel free to contact me.

 

[0tt0von]

one during work one day last month I was doing what normally do, letting my brain run absolute wild with any ideas it wanted. It decided it wanted to put together a whole story plot line for a lesbian story that took place during the days when slavery was still a thing, I think my brain was trying to make a really hard to sell/write story. edit: to preface this we were making jokes about slavery and stuff because a customer came in who was adamant that my coworker not make their food

Spoiler: story overview if any one wants to take the idea and run with it

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Historical note sharecropping did not become widespread in the American South till after the Civil War. Large plantations didn't need sharecroppers because they had slaves. Another thought sharecropping did exist in the Ottoman Empire and Ottoman slavery was much more diverse than that of the Antebellum South.

 

[lnomsim]

Can someone tell me if Keepers is recommended ?

I do recommend keepers, it has a very good story, and it's one of the very endangered species of games with choices matters.
BUT, it has unavoidable futa, it's even very important to the story.

I can't say for the second one, I haven't played recent releases, the only build I played didn't have enough content to recommend it or not.

 

[The Celtic fan]

sorry, for a small rant, i don't know if we'll ever see it here, but i recently played a “yuri” game (important because it's sold as such), and then the disappointment when the characters spend all their time talking about the men they like.

my question is, for what kind of people are such games for? someone who is interested in yuri-lesbian won't like it, even hella yuri gave it a negative rating in her curator.

I didn't finish it because I didn't like it, but according to hella yuri the end is that one of the main characters goes after a man (generic male protagonist of their other game), WTF the nerve of selling something like that as yuri.

 

[lnomsim]

sorry, for a small rant, i don't know if we'll ever see it here, but i recently played a “yuri” game (important because it's sold as such), and then the disappointment when the characters spend all their time talking about the men they like.

my question is, for what kind of people are such games for? someone who is interested in yuri-lesbian won't like it, even hella yuri gave it a negative rating in her curator.

I didn't finish it because I didn't like it, but according to hella yuri the end is that one of the main characters goes after a man (generic male protagonist of their other game), WTF the nerve of selling something like yuri.

There is a fetish for straightening lesbians.
And when it comes to anime hentai, good luck finding real yuri ones, they do exist, but for 90% of them (source: Mai Arce), there is either futa, or it's mostly straight with one lesbian scene, or there are tentacles.

So yeah, you need to remember some people only see lesbianism as a fetish of women having sex together, without really taking the homosexuality into account. Most people actually, there is a reason lesbian is in the hetero category in most adult sites that have option for gay and trans version of the site.

 

[The Celtic fan]

There is a fetish for straightening lesbians.
And when it comes to anime hentai, good luck finding real yuri ones, they do exist, but for 90% of them (source: Mai Arce), there is either futa, or it's mostly straight with one lesbian scene, or there are tentacles.

So yeah, you need to remember some people only see lesbianism as a fetish of women having sex together, without really taking the homosexuality into account. Most people actually, there is a reason lesbian is in the hetero category in most adult sites that have option for gay and trans version of the site.

Obviously I know there is that gross "fetish", but that's the thing, it didn't include that.

the game was basically a story of “friendship” between 2 women who are supposedly bi so it tries to make hints that something might happen between them but that is something very minor, they only talk about men.

There are no sex scenes, so I do not think it will be here, because neither the story is interesting, lesbians, relationships between women are things that only have it in advertising, so it would not satisfy people who have that "fetish".

it was a bit weird, but well it served as a reminder to never buy that kind of games on steam again, I have been fooled several times already.

 

[Birdnman993]

sorry, for a small rant, i don't know if we'll ever see it here, but i recently played a “yuri” game (important because it's sold as such), and then the disappointment when the characters spend all their time talking about the men they like.

my question is, for what kind of people are such games for? someone who is interested in yuri-lesbian won't like it, even hella yuri gave it a negative rating in her curator.

I didn't finish it because I didn't like it, but according to hella yuri the end is that one of the main characters goes after a man (generic male protagonist of their other game), WTF the nerve of selling something like yuri.

That reminds me of the anime "Yuri in Ice", what a misleading title.

 

[Trinian]

And don't even get me started on Yuri's Revenge

 

[The Celtic fan]

That reminds me of the anime "Yuri in Ice", what a misleading title.

I know that someday we will have a yuri with a firefighter protagonist named yaoi, it will be yaoi on fire.

 

[CboyC95]

Added Southern Nights

 

[262177]

And don't even get me started on Yuri's Revenge

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can potentially turn against you! Now I wonder if they'd allow footage of a gender-neutral first-person perspective interrogation and torture scene by your own spy... C&C had a live execution but I don't recall the "protagonist" (you, as a commander) ever being shown, which was great for immersion.

(It can even be used as a Soviet Russia joke.)

 

[Jaike]

sorry, for a small rant, i don't know if we'll ever see it here, but i recently played a “yuri” game (important because it's sold as such), and then the disappointment when the characters spend all their time talking about the men they like.

my question is, for what kind of people are such games for? someone who is interested in yuri-lesbian won't like it, even hella yuri gave it a negative rating in her curator.

I didn't finish it because I didn't like it, but according to hella yuri the end is that one of the main characters goes after a man (generic male protagonist of their other game), WTF the nerve of selling something like that as yuri.

I get why this is disappointing for you and everybody here. And it's the kind of stuff that shouldn't be pushed as lesbian.

But yuri has a different context in Japan, where it includes stories of unrequited or doomed love where the relationship ended. Maybe its meaning changed in Japan now, but historic yuri includes stories where protagonists returned to their husbands, broke up to marry a man, no satisfying conclusion, that kind of stuff. It worked different than in the west, where you see similar themes in that period btw, but Japanese culture wasn't tolerant to gays and lesbians then either.

That said, things would be a lot better if more people just said FF or FFM instead of lesbian for sex acts or the weird fetishised stuff.

Okay that's enough playing devil's advocate, dixi.

 

[Mapfap303]

I get why this is disappointing for you and everybody here. And it's the kind of stuff that shouldn't be pushed as lesbian.

But yuri has a different context in Japan, where it includes stories of unrequited or doomed love where the relationship ended. Maybe its meaning changed in Japan now, but historic yuri includes stories where protagonists returned to their husbands, broke up to marry a man, no satisfying conclusion, that kind of stuff. It worked different than in the west, where you see similar themes in that period btw, but Japanese culture wasn't tolerant to gays and lesbians then either.

That said, things would be a lot better if more people just said FF or FFM instead of lesbian for sex acts or the weird fetishised stuff.

Okay that's enough playing devil's advocate, dixi.
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I don't know about that it seems what you're talking about is era in japan something around 1915 when japan started creation
of many all girls school's they were taught to be good wifes and mothers(or to be specific trained befor getting basically sold off in arranged marriage) when girl love novel started getting popular, also they were called Class S back then not yuri, of course because of how woman were threated back then nobody really took relationship like that seriously because they would ended up with husband anyway and novels reflected that. Until some writers decided they don't like it and started write novels where girls actually end up together at end, most notably Nobuko Yoshiya who was openly lesbian. Of course government didn't like it so Class S was banned, the ban was lifted after ww2 but with some restrictions and the whole genre basically died until it was revived in 90's thanks to things like Maria-sama novel and Sailor Moon and and yuri started to be used almost always when it's about romantic relationship between women's/girls
Also to be extra picky i think i know what game orginal poster refers to and it's made by wester studio(not 100% about this but they only use english language) so the argument ''it's different in japan'' doesn't really stick since in west yuri is almost always refers to lesbian relationship.

 

[Jaike]

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I don't know about that it seems what you're talking about is era in japan something around 1915 when japan started creation
of many all girls school's they were taught to be good wifes and mothers(or to be specific trained befor getting basically sold off in arranged marriage) when girl love novel started getting popular, also they were called Class S back then not yuri, of course because of how woman were threated back then nobody really took relationship like that seriously because they would ended up with husband anyway and novels reflected that. Until some writers decided they don't like it and started write novels where girls actually end up together at end, most notably Nobuko Yoshiya who was openly lesbian. Of course government didn't like it so Class S was banned, the ban was lifted after ww2 but with some restrictions and the whole genre basically died until it was revived in 90's thanks to things like Maria-sama novel and Sailor Moon and and yuri started to be used almost always when it's about romantic relationship between women's/girls
Also to be extra picky i think i know what game orginal poster refers to and it's made by wester studio(not 100% about this but they only use english language) so the argument ''it's different in japan'' doesn't really stick since in west yuri is almost always refers to lesbian relationship.

That's fair, I guess, I'm no expert on Japanese history. But to be a bit picky in defence, you still see alternative unrequited or straight paths in some pretty prominent western yuri games like A Summer's End, though they're often the lesser paths fortunately. So I'd say the old influence is still there even in the west.

 

[lnomsim]

Obviously I know there is that gross "fetish", but that's the thing, it didn't include that.

the game was basically a story of “friendship” between 2 women who are supposedly bi so it tries to make hints that something might happen between them but that is something very minor, they only talk about men.

There are no sex scenes, so I do not think it will be here, because neither the story is interesting, lesbians, relationships between women are things that only have it in advertising, so it would not satisfy people who have that "fetish".

it was a bit weird, but well it served as a reminder to never buy that kind of games on steam again, I have been fooled several times already.

Yup, that's called yuribait, and if you like yuri, it sucks.

 

[The Celtic fan]

I get why this is disappointing for you and everybody here. And it's the kind of stuff that shouldn't be pushed as lesbian.

But yuri has a different context in Japan, where it includes stories of unrequited or doomed love where the relationship ended. Maybe its meaning changed in Japan now, but historic yuri includes stories where protagonists returned to their husbands, broke up to marry a man, no satisfying conclusion, that kind of stuff. It worked different than in the west, where you see similar themes in that period btw, but Japanese culture wasn't tolerant to gays and lesbians then either.

That said, things would be a lot better if more people just said FF or FFM instead of lesbian for sex acts or the weird fetishised stuff.

Okay that's enough playing devil's advocate, dixi.
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you are talking about class S which is where the "yuri" stories originated, it was something of its time (was something from 1920), but when it started to be more lesbian it was banned, but that is another story.

yuri as such today are romantic relationships between women, even in japan, even the word was originated in gay magazines.

but i guess you thought it could be japanese because i didn't say the name of the game, (i prefer not to give "publicity" so to speak), but it is a western game, only with anime aesthetics, that's why they say it's "yuri" (as an anime genre).

it was mostly misleading advertising, the developer even went further and asked hella yuri, a steam curator who collects lesbian games, to review it, even they were surprised how bad it was, and gave it a bad review, something they practically never do. (I wish I had read it before I bought it.)

basically as lnomsim said it was yuribait. more likely in an attempt to promote their other game, which personally makes no sense to me.

 

[262177]

I get why this is disappointing for you and everybody here. And it's the kind of stuff that shouldn't be pushed as lesbian.

But yuri has a different context in Japan, where it includes stories of unrequited or doomed love where the relationship ended. Maybe its meaning changed in Japan now, but historic yuri includes stories where protagonists returned to their husbands, broke up to marry a man, no satisfying conclusion, that kind of stuff. It worked different than in the west, where you see similar themes in that period btw, but Japanese culture wasn't tolerant to gays and lesbians then either.

That said, things would be a lot better if more people just said FF or FFM instead of lesbian for sex acts or the weird fetishised stuff.

Okay that's enough playing devil's advocate, dixi.
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Japan didn't get influenced by social media as much as the west so yuri still is what it used to be. It's also a lot less vocal about things like small breasts or characters under 18/21. Adult women can have small breasts too and age is just a fancy number to comply with the USC.

FFM will never ever remotely be yuri, fetishized or not. That would just be a mixed threesome at best. Males can watch but they are not allowed to touch for it to be females only. Lesbian romance in general is ruined by male self-insert content or growing body parts to adapt to mindsets. We have toys if we ever need something phallic in our lives, thank you very much.

doidera is much better than me at this, but yes please, for the love of all that is holy and sacred (and yes, demons are allowed to love angels) let's just properly use the lesbian tag. We don't have anything here to distinguish "lesbian porn" from "meant for women who love other women" - "females only" would be mistagged if it existed on F95. How do I know it? I've seen it happen for over 30 years elsewhere and it gets worse and worse in western communities, which makes me very biased about the reason it is happening.

Obviously, everyone can enjoy it, they just need to abstain from interacting with the characters in a way that wouldn't just damage but completely shatter any concept of love between women. It's perfectly fine to throw in a few guys who go "wow that's hot" for laughs but it's not okay at all to have the supposedly lesbian women talk about how hot the guys are and fawn over them. That's just not how it works.

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I take so much time posting that I usually get ninja'd by at least two people. Sorry about that...

 

[Mapfap303]

the developer even went further and asked hella yuri, a steam curator who collects lesbian games, to review it, even they were surprised how bad it was, and gave it a bad review, sense to me.

Yup it's that game but holy shit i know that hella yuri have give it a bad review but i didint't know that developer asked for it,
dunno if they were that confident or that stupid or just thought ''any publicity is a good publicity''